Comments on: Korea’s Looking to Add to UNESCO Sites, Is Dokdo Next? http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/ Serving on the Forgotten Frontier Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:19:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Kim in the U.S. http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-184770 Kim in the U.S. Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:17:03 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-184770 Shattered, you are an idiot. Don't tell people that you are from the U.S., as you would only fuel the Korean anti-U.S. sentiment. Shattered, you are an idiot. Don’t tell people that you are from the U.S., as you would only fuel the Korean anti-U.S. sentiment.

]]> By: Cheju Island Vying for UNESCO World Geopark Listing http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-174743 Cheju Island Vying for UNESCO World Geopark Listing Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:19:02 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-174743 [...] Korean government’s effort to list various areas such as Cheju Island as UNESCO World Heritage areas is something I strongly support because it gives the government strong motivation to preserve these [...] [...] Korean government’s effort to list various areas such as Cheju Island as UNESCO World Heritage areas is something I strongly support because it gives the government strong motivation to preserve these [...]

]]> By: shattered http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-152288 shattered Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:19:11 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-152288 The Korean doesn't like it when I remind him of his "culture" LOL. Kings with a dirt floor palace and an outhouse! KINGS INDEED!! LOL The Korean doesn’t like it when I remind him of his “culture” LOL.

Kings with a dirt floor palace and an outhouse! KINGS INDEED!! LOL

]]> By: Dr.Yu http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-152181 Dr.Yu Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:20:05 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-152181 Shattered, Bla, bla, bla bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla .... Stop drinking. Shattered,
Bla, bla, bla bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla ….
Stop drinking.

]]> By: shattered http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-152152 shattered Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:41:47 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-152152 There is NOTHING in Korea that merits a UNESCO listing. Everyone knows all the "palaces" were built in the 70's. Their Kings used outhouses and had dirt floors. Kings with a dirt floor palace! KINGS INDEED!! There is nothing in Korea that is actually ancient or beautiful. "ancient Korean kingdom of Koguryo " Why is it Korean? Because Koreans say so? According to Korenas China and Japan come from Korea. For Koguryo to be an anciet korean kingdom, that would imply that the customs and traditions of Kouryo were somehow passed on to Korea. Things like language, religion and actual genetics too. But none of that is true. The "art" of Koguryo can be found in East China (and it predates koguryo). The language is more similar to ancient Japanese. What Modern Korea has done, is found anything they can that supports their "korean history theory" and discard the wealth of information that disputes that ancient Kogoryo has anything to do with "Korea". There is NOTHING in Korea that merits a UNESCO listing. Everyone knows all the “palaces” were built in the 70’s. Their Kings used outhouses and had dirt floors.

Kings with a dirt floor palace! KINGS INDEED!!

There is nothing in Korea that is actually ancient or beautiful.

“ancient Korean kingdom of Koguryo ”

Why is it Korean? Because Koreans say so? According to Korenas China and Japan come from Korea. For Koguryo to be an anciet korean kingdom, that would imply that the customs and traditions of Kouryo were somehow passed on to Korea. Things like language, religion and actual genetics too. But none of that is true.

The “art” of Koguryo can be found in East China (and it predates koguryo). The language is more similar to ancient Japanese.

What Modern Korea has done, is found anything they can that supports their “korean history theory” and discard the wealth of information that disputes that ancient Kogoryo has anything to do with “Korea”.

]]> By: jtb http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-85836 jtb Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:17:28 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-85836 Isn't the whole "Dokdo/Takeshima/Liancourt Rocks" controversy about fishing rights? Maybe they can make the same deal with the Japs that they made with the Norks? Isn’t the whole “Dokdo/Takeshima/Liancourt Rocks” controversy about fishing rights?

Maybe they can make the same deal with the Japs that they made with the Norks?

]]> By: skippy http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-80915 skippy Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:21:11 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-80915 Dokdo? you mean Takeshima or the liancourt rocks? Dokdo? you mean Takeshima or the liancourt rocks?

]]> By: Barry http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-7870 Barry Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:53:04 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-7870 Excelent information. Best wishes from New York.t Excelent information. Best wishes from New York.t

]]> By: Anonymous http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-2051 Anonymous Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:16:00 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-2051 By the way, what you see in English media is really only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the madness that is Korean historical revisionism or delusion. If you pore through Korean historical forums, you will frequently see people insisting (with widespread agreement) that Temujin, Nurhaci (the founder ot the Ching who is known as "Kim Nueul" in Korean!), and even Tang Taizong were Korean. Or watch Korean videos. For instance, in the SBS drama "Yeon Gaesomun," the main Koguryo characters incessantly refer to China as "seotoh" (Western land, meaning "our" Western land), and insist that Gojoseon spanned from the Russian Siberia to Tibet! By the way, what you see in English media is really only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the madness that is Korean historical revisionism or delusion. If you pore through Korean historical forums, you will frequently see people insisting (with widespread agreement) that Temujin, Nurhaci (the founder ot the Ching who is known as “Kim Nueul” in Korean!), and even Tang Taizong were Korean. Or watch Korean videos. For instance, in the SBS drama “Yeon Gaesomun,” the main Koguryo characters incessantly refer to China as “seotoh” (Western land, meaning “our” Western land), and insist that Gojoseon spanned from the Russian Siberia to Tibet!

]]> By: Anonymous http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-2050 Anonymous Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:07:56 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/05/koreas-looking-to-add-to-unesco-sites-is-dokdo-next/#comment-2050 Given the volatile nature of the topic, historians with reputations are often loath to comment on this issue. But I have talked to two historians of eminent (even pre-eminent) reputation, one Korean expert and the other a Sinologist. They have both told me that 1) they view Koguryo as more Korean than Chinese, while Pohai is more Mohe than Koguryo-an; 2) their views represent a fairly overwhelming consensus in the Western scholarly community. In sum, albeit both parties are guilty of anachronistic constructions or reconsutrctions of their history, Korea would have been on solid(er) ground if they limited their claims to Koguryo. Of course, being an immodrate bunch, they extended their original reasonable claims and incorporated outlandish claims regarding Pohai and even Gando--transforming an argument where they were (for once!) in the right in matters of history into an argument where they again appear as lunatics. Good going. Given the volatile nature of the topic, historians with reputations are often loath to comment on this issue. But I have talked to two historians of eminent (even pre-eminent) reputation, one Korean expert and the other a Sinologist. They have both told me that 1) they view Koguryo as more Korean than Chinese, while Pohai is more Mohe than Koguryo-an; 2) their views represent a fairly overwhelming consensus in the Western scholarly community.

In sum, albeit both parties are guilty of anachronistic constructions or reconsutrctions of their history, Korea would have been on solid(er) ground if they limited their claims to Koguryo. Of course, being an immodrate bunch, they extended their original reasonable claims and incorporated outlandish claims regarding Pohai and even Gando–transforming an argument where they were (for once!) in the right in matters of history into an argument where they again appear as lunatics.

Good going.

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