ROK Drop

By on January 11th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

Looking for Only White People

Here is an interesting letter to the editor of the Korea Times:

I would love to make a comment to your newspaper about a very shocking experience that I had today. I got a phone call from a company that had viewed my mini resume, minus photo, on some Web site.

They had asked me to send my full resume with photo, no problem, I sent it. I then received an email from he director or whoever she was telling me THE COMPANY IS LOOKING FOR ONLY WHITE PEOPLE! What was even more degrading, is when this “person’’ had enough gall, to tell me that Korea is a racist country and always will be so I shouldn’t take it personal, and not to feel bad because, the blacks have it worse here.

She closed her statement by saying, “I don’t know why you came to Korea, but you should go back to America because Korea will not change, so you may continue to feel this kind of prejudice.’’

Hines who?

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  • Dan
    1:33 am on January 12th, 2007 1

    To the letter writer> The name was Hines Ward, and to Koreans he is half-korean, not black. Plus, he helped win some well-known football game. I'm guessing here that she is NOT half korean, nor famous. Also guessing here that she is well educated.

    What really hit me about this letter was the writer was upset That someone RESPECTED her enough to tell her the TRUTH!

    People are judged by their appearance every day. Too tall, too short, too fat, too skinny, too old, too young, too ugly, too pretty. But when it's skin color (in America) people get upset. The ACLU gets called. Jessie Jackson gets called. Al gets called. She should call them! I would be interested to see if they get upset and take action that Koreans are openly prejudice. No white people are involved, so I really do wonder what will happen!

    Maby she should come to America. For the reasons above and in America they must hire a % of Black People.

    Why did she go to Korea? To get away from American prejudice? She didn't come for the clean air, or local transportation.

    At least she didn't get accused of rape and have it turn into a circus because of her race! COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE!

  • Dram_man
    1:41 am on January 12th, 2007 2

    As I like to say, if shooting your self in the foot was an Olympic sport, Korea would come in last.

    I am reminded of an article a few years ago in the Korea Herald that commented on racial sterotypes in Korea. It started off with a view from a parade of "People of the World" at Samsung Everland. As the name implies it had one big foam child costumed person from every part of the world. The "African" child was there featuring the club, the loin cloth, and bone through the nose. When confronted about this an Everland spokesman said something like "Its fun. Your supposed to laugh at them"

  • GI Korea
    1:59 am on January 12th, 2007 3

    I do have to say I was amazed the company actually told her the truth on why she was not selected. You would think they would have found some other reason to tell her why she was not selected. I think the point she was trying to make with the letter was that Korea made such a huge deal about Hines Ward visit to Korea yet nothing has changed. I'm not surprised and pretty much thought so when the whole Hines Ward thing was going.

  • Sonagi
    3:29 am on January 12th, 2007 4

    Dram_man wrote:

    The “African” child was there featuring the club, the loin cloth, and bone through the nose.

    I see Everland hasn't bothered to change their parade of racial characatures since the Korea Herald published a piece several years ago called, "Korea, the Land That PC Forgot."

    Dan wrote:

    People are judged by their appearance every day.

    Yes, but thankfully, not everybody makes hiring decisions based solely on appearance. The teaching staff at my US public school includes three obese women and one woman whose face bears burn scars. Her kindergarten students adore her and hug her when it's time to leave. Among the obese women is a teacher so outstanding, my principal recommended I observe her classes.

  • Sonagi
    3:30 am on January 12th, 2007 5

    typo correction: caricatures

  • Dan
    4:06 am on January 12th, 2007 6

    Sonagi, what's your point? I had 2nd degree burns over 75% of my face that lasted for — too long. My point is that the letter writer should count her blessings. You can't expect to be accepted by everone. Walk with a chip on your shoulder and it will get removed.

    I'm not too skinny, but some have indicated I might be too fat. Some of those people care about me.

    Guess what, my statment stands, people are judged by their looks. I never said looks alone! EVERYBODY is good at something — even me — even you. You still can not escape the body you dwell in. It helps you in some way and limits you in some way.

    Not everybody that is true. I for one am very happy about that.

    I still don't know what your point is. What are you trying to tell me that I don't know? Tell the woman.

  • Sonagi
    4:34 am on January 12th, 2007 7

    Dan,

    It is a shock when someone experiences prejudice for the first time. The woman was understandably shocked that she was rejected on the basis of her race and that the company was up front about it.

    People do judge others by their looks and deny others opportunities based on physical characteristics that have no impact on the ability to do the job. It may be true, but it is not beneficial for humankind, and her anger is understandable.

    You never said looks alone, but the employer had contacted her after seeing her qualifications on her CV and then explicitly rejected her because of her race. Thus, the company rejected her solely because of her appearance.

    You said, "It (the body) helps you in some way and limits you in some way." But in this case, her dark skin did not limit her. The employer's narrow-mindedness and pandering to Korea racial attitudes limited her. Her dark skin itself does not impose any limitation on her ability to teach. The limitation is in the mind of the employer. Such artificially constructed limitations that deny opportunities to people are unhealthy and undesirable.

    You shrug your shoulders. Well, what kind of country would America be if abolitionists, suffragists, civil rights activists, women's rights and gay rights activists had just shrugged their shoulders? Whatever conflicts we have today, our nation is a far better place for all Americans than it was 50 years ago.

  • Sonagi
    4:42 am on January 12th, 2007 8

    Dan wrote:

    I’m guessing here that she is NOT half korean,…

    You guessed wrong. Click on the link to the entire KT piece, and you will read that she is the daughter of Korean and German parents. If you read her letter, you will understand that as a person of Korean ancestry who had come to explore her roots, she was terribly disappointed to experience discrimination BECAUSE OF HER KOREAN ANCESTRY.

    What really hit me about this letter was the writer was upset That someone RESPECTED her enough to tell her the TRUTH!

    You cannot infer the employer's intent. Maybe they told her up front out of "respect" or maybe they told her because they are not ashamed and there isn't a darn thing she can do about it.

  • Dan
    5:24 am on January 12th, 2007 9

    I believe it was a true statment given out of respect for another person.

    In her present location, situation, her skin held her back, just as it has for me in past locations. To say the company thinking is wrong is obvious. But still a fact.

    Obviously, I didn't care to read the entire piece. Taking you at your word, I assume she learned something about her Ancestry. She is now wiser.

    I did not shrug my shoulders. It is very serious.

    As for myself, I wish more people would tell the truth, rather than the norm at present.

    I have been told not to go to some places because of my race. Good to know, as I don't like to bleed.

    I can infer the employer's intent by the words I read. Thats what you do when you read. Otherwise, whats the point of reading. Now if you disagree that's another story.

    I still say she is lucky that another woman respected her enough to tell the truth. Now she knows what the fight is and can wage a better assult on her situation

    1st step is to know the who or the what that must be overcome. Now she knows. She was given a great gift!

    Is your glass half full? I hope hers is. I try!

  • Dan
    5:35 am on January 12th, 2007 10

    GI Korea,

    Yep, we both knew that was a flash in the pan. If Hines Ward had grown up in Korea, he would be digging ditches somewhere. America, perhaps a great country, even with her problems.

  • GI Korea
    9:25 am on January 12th, 2007 11

    "Perhaps a great country". Trust me I have taken a few all expensed paid trips to many of the world's sh**holes courtesy of the US Army and when ever I came back I loved my country even more. To many Americans and it appears even yourself do not realize how good we got it.

    That is not to say Korea is a bad country though. Despite the stuff like what we see in this article Korea pretty much has it's act together and is a much better place to live than the vast majority of the world.

  • Silly Sally
    1:19 pm on January 12th, 2007 12

    GI,

    You wax sentimental about your own country? You think you have it good? You are about to lose it all. Your indifference … means you deserve it taken away from you. Your lack of passion for the sovereignty of your own country means you aren't worthy to enjoy a free America.

    Find out — in this short clip — what is happening to your great country.

    If this means nothing to you, then you are the fraud I suspect you to be.

    Check it out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XdxI0zClV_Y

  • Silly Sally
    1:32 pm on January 12th, 2007 13

    And then some:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tg8suvwS3o&mode=r

  • Dan
    5:31 pm on January 12th, 2007 14

    Gi Korea, you infered my meaning of the word "perhaps", incorrectly. It was intended as sercasum. can't spell.

    I too have been sent to some of the "armpits" of the world during my 20 years and 13 days with the U.S. Army. Iraq was my last tour in 04. Why any informed person would live in that wasteland is beyond my understanding. But having been there, it is easier to understand how 72 virgins is seen as a good reason to die. Bosnia was not my cup of tea either. I spent a few years in Korea as well. Liked it there as long as I wasn't one of them and could leave at the Army's pleasure.

    Silly Sally, you sound a bit scary or vengfull or hateful. Your not going to get many followers like that. I did watch your vids. Interesting! I live in Mississippi. You would likely call me a RedNeck, as all I really like to do is go out in the back 40 and shoot my M4 and 9mm. My personal Big Government issues are the Death Tax and Gun Control. "Gun Control is being able hit our target". As to a new world order—I think the Euro was a good idea—so many small countries and all. As to Canada and Mexico—aren't the already part of America—they just don't pay taxes directly, well the illegals don't pay at all. But in your new world order—they will simply die away. Big Business will do what it will to get—MORE BUSINESS! Little I can do about that Silly Sally. But unlike Germany in the 1930's and all of Europe today and the good people down under, America still has the 2nd ammendment and Clinton failed in 1994 to make guns illegal. He also "woke us up" in 94. I had two guns in 94. In 1995 I had ten and more now. Was it Jefferson that said, "alittle revolution is good from time to time."? New World Order perhaps, with America as the Leader of the world, could be worse.

    The only thing that is constant in this world is change Silly Sally. I live in America and enjoy my freedoms. I defended them before in uniform and will do so again when needed. So do not worry Silly Sally. The country IS watching.

    Gi Korea, I may be in your neck of the woods later this year. How is the Hump these days? The protest still going on?

  • Sonagi
    6:21 pm on January 12th, 2007 15

    Dan wrote:

    As to Canada and Mexico—aren’t the already part of America—they just don’t pay taxes directly, well the illegals don’t pay at all.

    If, by "illegals" you mean undocumented residents of the US, it is a common and absolutely false misperception that these people pay no taxes. Most states and many cities have sales taxes and property taxes. Even renters pay property taxes indirectly as part of their rent. Moreover, undocumented workers who use false social security numbers pay social security and possibly federal, state, and local income taxes.

  • Dan
    9:53 pm on January 12th, 2007 16

    If you say so. I think the operative words in your text are "possibly"and "indirectly.

    I will still call them "illegals", because that is what they are!

    If you want to put a soft touch on it by calling them "undocumented", that is your way.

    Still "Illegals" to me and to my Government.

    When mexico becomes a member of the United States of America and all get THEIR OWN SSN, pay state and federal taxes and are no longer "undocumented", I will stop calling them "illegals".

    You should reread you text, as it states that they do break the law.

    (walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, just might be—wait for it—A DUCK)

  • GI Korea
    10:42 pm on January 12th, 2007 17

    Dan, sorry sarcasm is always hard to pick up on comments. Don't mind Silly Sally she has been saying the sky is falling for months. I'm with you on the illegalls though. Secure the border and then make them sign up for work visas so we know who they are and that they pay all the taxes they are supposed to.

  • Dan
    11:16 pm on January 12th, 2007 18

    GI Korea, Thanks for the back-up.

  • Sonagi
    12:10 am on January 13th, 2007 19

    I will call them what I like, and you may call them what you like, but you were still wrong to assert like so many others that these people do not pay taxes.

    I agree with GI Korea that the current situation of an estimated ten million undocumented workers is unacceptable. I also favor a guest worker program. The construction and agricultural industries depend heavily on seasonal labor that cannot be met by US workers. Canada is smart, bringing in Mexican agricultural workers on seasonal guest worker visas. The workers come alone, leaving their families behind, and take their money back with them when their visas run out.

    The long border with Mexico will never be sealed completely. The war on illegal immigration is a huge failure just like the war on drugs for the same reason: we go after the supply rather than the demand. When companies start paying huge fines, they'll quit hiring people who do not have a legal right to work in this country. Employers make up the phony excuse that it's hard/too much bother to verify SS numbers, but that is BS. The other day in Walmart, a cashier refused to cash the check of a Spanish-speaking man after imputting his name, birthdate, and SS number. If a Walmart cashier can verify SS numbers, employers can, too.

    If illegal immigration is ever brought under control, Americans had better get used to paying more at the grocery store and on their mortages. Legal labor costs more than illegal labor.

  • Sonagi
    1:19 am on January 13th, 2007 20

    closing the boldface tag

  • Dan
    6:11 am on January 13th, 2007 21

    Glad ya got that off your chest? Heard it all before. Your waisting your breath (fingers) on me Sonagi. Sorry about that. I don't know what you want from me. I agree with many of your points, but that changes nothing.

    I'm not the one running things. Given your intense feelings here—you should be glad I'm not. I look at the southern border as a possible terrorism gateway. The illegals are a secondary situation.

    Bottom line, as before, your either legally here or your an illegal. That includes the Korean working girls by the way, just so you know I'm an "equal Opportunity" illegal type.

    As to paying more at the food store—I don't eat much and all Americans are rich—Right?

  • Eldridge
    6:11 am on January 13th, 2007 22

    Dan,

    Patriotism scares you?

    Why are the Bush administration and policy elite gradually implementing these trade agreements in such an underhanded way, without informing or debating this huge step in public? The answer, of course, is that the American people would scream bloody murder such as Silly Sally. Does her contempt for GI Korea's indifference scare you?

    It wouldn't be the first time an illegal coup of sorts has taken place through a clandestine network of economic and political interests. There are always those who think they take power through a back door. It is very Hegelian and collectivist to believe the ends justify the means.

    Silly Sally ponders the same questions most loyal Americans must ask if they are honest. If this indeed is a coup by an elite to nullify U.S. sovereignty and make an end run around the system, it is a travesty and goes against absolutely everything Americans have fought and died for in countless wars. It is a betrayal of the U.S. Constitution and the American people.

    Did you know GI Korea's indifference — symbolic of most volunteer soldier's indifference — is scary?

    Why doesn't this scare you?

  • Dan
    7:14 am on January 13th, 2007 23

    I seem to be a popular person in this thread, maby even central. I am impressed with my unknown ability.

    She sounded like Hitler to me. That simple.

    When people try to motivate me, the first thing I ask myself is this: Self, why do they want to motivate you. The second is: Do they sound sane.

    She sounded insane or unsane, with much hate. I try not to involve myself with those.

    As to taking power throught the back do—happens all the time in all countrys—just ask the Democrats. Not my fight, yet! Too far above me.

    Silly Sally has no patriotism. She just types in hate.

    To your last statement about indifference of the volunteer Soldier: There are some in every group usually support units where it is all about PC. Bet you won't go to a comat arms unit and say that! Not more than once I'm sure, so in that area, I fear not. I hope that was what your looking for and that it helps you in some way.

    You trying to motivate me Eldridge?

  • mike mcstay
    7:38 am on January 13th, 2007 24

    I posted the letter to the editor on my blog and I will watch and see if anything happens with this case.

    What I found interesting from Sally was that she attacked you, she did not attack anything about the actual message. Like I have said earlier Sally, Time to update the playbook.

  • Eldridge
    1:10 pm on January 13th, 2007 25

    Dan and Mike.

    In our neck of the woods, if the house is burning down, we don't care if the village ass-hole screams "fire" to warn the occupants. The message is more important than the messanger.

    What I am hearing is your ego coddled and congratulated is more important than Sally's message.

    This kind of self-absorption is probably what Sally feels contempt for, especially when it comes from our so-called defenders of American freedom.

    My bet is Silly Sally's acerbic personality is contrived to illustrate this very fact: the fact that most all-volunteer army's soldiers don't give a rat's ass about democracy and freedom. American soldiers are in Iraq for some action, stories to tell over beer, and maybe the thrill of killing someone. "Freedom", my ass. They are frauds. They don't even care about protecting the freedom of their own country — unless someone tells it too them sweet.

    I think Silly Sally's contempt for GI Korea is right on the money.

  • Dan
    5:26 pm on January 13th, 2007 26

    Eldridge, The ego was coddled AFTER Silly attacked. So your wrong, that simple. and thank YOU for even more attention. This is great.

    The messanger is as important as the message. The reason is VERY simple: when people scream (bold face) and attack with hate, they quickly are nolonger taken seriously.

    As for American Soldiers not giving a "rat's ass", well cowboy, I sure didn't do it for the money!

    "Thrill of killing someone." YOU have never killed. You have never carried a weapon with a loaded clip. You have never had to respond to the radio call of (SHOTS FIRED! SHOTS FIRED!) with your guys out there. Thrill, try the word dread instead. The wonder here is that i even bother to respond to some civilian that has spent his life sitting on his ass.

    Apperantly your deel is you are pissed that americans are in iraq and you don't like american soldiers. This has likly been the case for years.

    So I'll give you one more reason——Why don't you take your FLAT korean ass and do something worthwild with it, no you can't do that, it takes up all your energy hateing on the American Soldier. Well, not to worry, we will be leaving your country soon enough. the world knows this as investment in korea has already started droping.

    As to a parting shot, Thanks for stroking my ego.

    This thread started because a woman was upset at being told the truth about why she wasn't hired. Now it is all about ME! Attack. I tried to help some young woman understand what had happened, but that seems to be forgotten. Didn't know I had the POWER. Thanks to Silly and Eldridge, my ego is SO CODDLED!

    Silly has no massage, only bold face type.

    Eldridge, your one angry little man. What happened? Some round eye take your girl.

  • Sonagi
    9:47 pm on January 13th, 2007 27

    This thread started because a woman was upset at being told the truth about why she wasn’t hired.

    No, she was upset about not being hired because of her non-white ancestry. She was upset about the very reason itself, not merely being told the reason.

    I tried to help some young woman understand what had happened, but that seems to be forgotten.

    I don't see how posting your opinions on this blog helps the woman who wrote the KT opinion piece "understand."

  • Eldridge
    4:55 am on January 14th, 2007 28

    Dan,

    Being responded to on the internet doesn't really confer celebrity status. But, I am not going to spoil this special thrill of yours. Yes Dan, you are the center of this thread. Enjoy.

    Now, if it's true you have been put in harms way by military involvement, then of course you experienced dread. You were scared of danger like a normal person.

    Yet, you DID NOT joint the military for Democracy and Freedom, you used this idea as a pretext for a paycheck, a chance to play with guns, hoped for action, and curiosity about killing another. Why else go to war, if protecting your own country is not the primary concern — as demonstrated by our GI Korea.

    How, do I know this? The indifference the average all-volunteer soldier displays for his Constitution and republic. When Silly Sally, a Paul Revere figure runs on the internet screaming the threat to America, you ask for an ego stroking messenger before you even lift an ear.

    Just like the racially jilted woman of this posting topic who rankles at the truth of Korean racism, you also become petulant to truth, unless it strokes your ego.

    It's completely understood you are an average joe, and maybe an underachiever. What is valuable, is to learn about the average American soldier's indifference to preserve the freedom of his own country. You and GI Korea reveal this. Call the exposure "Hate", but it helps the rest of us understand the corrupt environment in our military.

    We are concerned because the average Joe such as you within the military appears to be the psychological type that will "follow orders" and start "policing" American citizens back home — through executive orders of the President and FEMA.

    Thanks for your service.

  • Eldridge
    8:09 am on January 14th, 2007 29

    One more note: The most curious thing about GI Korea is his lack of patriotism. GI Korea reveals a profound DISRESPECT for "nationality" … especially his own.

    H. G. Wells wrote in his 1928 book, THE OPEN CONSPIRACY; BLUEPRINTS FOR A WORLD REVOLUTION:

    "Whenever possible, the Open Conspiracy will advance by illumination and persuasion. But it has to advance and even from the outset where it is not allowed to illuminate and persuade it must fight (such as framing the Silly Sally's of the world as so-called "Haters") . . . in the face of unscrupulous opposition creative ideas must become aggressive, must define their enemies, and attack them. . . . The Open Conspiracy rests upon a disrespect for "nationality . . ."

    Somehow, through American education and military indoctrination GI Korea has been "persuaded" to embrace "indifference" to the loss of American sovereignty. To disrespect nationality: to embrace a global citizen's identity.

    A very curious development for an American soldier. Don't you think?

  • Dan
    9:08 am on January 14th, 2007 30

    Since I am now a STAR in your eyes—happy me—I'll give what I can.

    I joined the military because I wanted to serve my country on a four year contract. I was from the most poor state in the union. Maby by doing service to my country I could see other countries and peoples, a kind of culture enlightenment, what you call adventure. As for a paycheck, I had one already. In fact I took a pay cut to join, as I stated before the pay is not much.

    As to a chance to, as you say "play with guns". I received my first gun at around 10 years of age. Did a bit of hunting as a boy. Found it to be boring, sitting and waiting for a Dear to kill, and they were so pretty. So I stopped. Dad was not happy about that! My job in the army was fixing radios. I selected it. I did not want to "play soldier". Things changed in Iraq, 18 years later, after 9/11. Many things changed.

    I understand there is a hate fest going on now. Perhaps, in your eves, I am an underachiever. Even the young and not so bright soldiers look at (LIFERS), and wonder who would do such a thing for so long. SOMEBODY has to do it. someone must train the new borns. And it was fun much of the time to teach them.

    Now to the Psychological type. I know your waiting for this! At my first shop, there was a sigh painted on the wall, and as you took the steps, you couldn't miss it. I don't remember the picture, it was 1986, but I will never forget the words. Ready? It read, "LEAD FOLLOW OR GET OUT OF THE WAY". You can lead or you can follow, or you can get out of the way.

    I retired after Iraq and I was happy that none of my boys got hurt. We were mortored dailey untill November. My guards took fire and returned fire. None were hit, some were close. I only remember one of them losing it. He was seeing things that were not there. I have returned home with a world view that none around me can understand. They never left.

    I am now effectively, out of the way.

    Unless something like Kent State starts nation wide. As to "policing american citizens back home".

    Some need to be policed. Those in New Orleans have even REQUESTED to be policed. It's hard for me to believe that one. But as you know, there is a hate fest going on.

    You don't scar me. Silly does. She wants the evil to happen. Also she attacked me, not my message. That is why I say the messanger is as important as the message. If you have something to say, you must be someone that people will want to listen to! Or they won't listen.

    By the way, FEMA has nothing to do with policing anything. It is part of the federal government. You got that right.

    FEMA is part of the big hate fest that is so popular with those that like to scream and cry about big brother. They did their best but were overcome.

    Did I give enough of me?

    Thanks for thanking me for my service. It's the only reason I answered you! I gotta get some sleep now.

  • Eldridge
    11:52 am on January 14th, 2007 31

    Dan,

    Thanks for the interesting answer. I mean that with no sarcasm; it was interesting to get a glimpse of where you come from, and your experience. I am getting a whiff, however, of a curious run-around of what Silly Sally is driving at. I constantly see this when I watch Silly Sally's interaction with GI Korea.

    That is, observing men who say they join the military to serve their country, yet never evidence a concern for their own country. Only a desire to die for other countries and peoples. One might surmise "serving one's country" is something other than a desire to protect America's unique freedoms, and sovereignty.

    Silly Sally points-out the uncontested fact that the current administration, and the up-coming democratic administration have interests transcending the will of the American people, and are stealthily handing-over key American infra-structure to foreign corporations: eg. the Security and Prosperity Partnership agreement. She has pointed-out the erosion of the Constitution by the two Patriot Acts, including the Military Commissions Act. She points out the Posse Comitatus Act being disregarded.

    GI, curiously dismisses these concerns. Granted he may not be educated enough to appreciate the danger, but he also has NO CONCERN for the general idea of preserving our freedoms achieved by the blood of past Americans. It seems Silly Sally must stroke his ego, before GI will even CONSIDER the real and present danger presented to America by government high-jackers. Since GI Korea doesn't like Sally's tone, he will keep his head in the sand. Is this a patriot?

    Silly Sally expresses contempt for soldiers such as these. They seem more like mercenaries, rather than defenders of American freedom. Yet, you wish to characterize Sally's outrage as being on the same level as homo-phobia. Sooo hateful? You don't seem like a PC pussy, but then … you sound like one.

    The above issues get the run-around from you and GI Korea, because apparently she is onto a big dirty secret about the all-volunteer American military: the fact that American soldiers will sell-out their country if ordered to. Because they really don't care.

    For this reason, I think Sally rightfully refers to GI Korea as a FRAUD. Hateful? How about truthful.

    Does this treasonous indifference of GI Korea give you no real concern? Can you address this point, without a run-around?

  • Sonagi
    5:21 pm on January 14th, 2007 32

    Silly Sally is a troll's troll. In the entry about AP reporter Charles Hanley, there is a link to an earlier entry about Hanley and Nogunri. Click on it, read Silly Sally's comments, and you'll see what I mean.

  • Dan
    6:08 pm on January 14th, 2007 33

    Well I will try to wrap my mind around it. Indifference to a situation just might not be really indifference might go back to that messenger and message thing

    If you always bager someone they stop listening.

    If you sound as if you want it to happen and you deserve to lose it—that is no warning that is a desire—I myself do not respond well to those that take joy in whatever preceived ills are coming my way. Silly is nolonger viewed as a real person. Much like rideing the subway or bus in korea—you get pushed aside. No time for a hateful screamer.

    Last three years in the army were a PC gone wild nightmare. Some must have rubbed off.

    I have never known any individual that wanted to die for another country. During my time in korea the general attitude was f–k this place. They didn't get out much. I did, but most did not.

    You should understand that not all lower enlisted have an understanding of the why and the who.

    Mercenaries always know the (who,what, when, where). The "why" is always money. They don't want to die either, as they won't get paid! Another difference is that Mercenaries usually run the show and do not CARE who gets hurt.

    Concern for country comes from experience that most teens and many 20 somethings don't yet have. 9/11 was on of those experiences. I did see news clips of koreans and other countries in the middle east cheering when the towers fell and 3000 americans died. I didn't have to go to Iraq as I had just returned from overseas in korea. I insisted that I go. My concern for country and for soldiers.

    The Democratic administration—what can I say—I voted Republican. That is all I can do at my level. I make my concerns known to the local news channel. I vote along the lines of the NRA and local leaders know that if they don't support the 2nd amendment, I will not support them. It is the american way.

    Patriot act I favor as it is wartime. We did worse during WWII. This war is just getting started.

    If I failed to answer anything, it is likely that I don't know the answer, I am after all, only a country boy that got out and came back. I have alot of stories, many from korea.

    In closing, enjoy the weekend and don't forget that monday is Robert E. Lee's Birthday.

  • Sonagi
    1:20 am on January 15th, 2007 34

    Robert E. Lee's birthday is on FRIDAY, January 19. You must be confusing him with Dr. Martin Luther King, whose real birthday happens to fall on the federal holiday this year.

  • Eldridge
    7:11 am on January 15th, 2007 35

    Dan,

    You are a good man, and thanks for the sincere answer.

    Your response indicates you don't have the usual automatic defense-mechanism built into your character designed to unreasonably protect your ego. Unlike our poor GI Korea.

    For that reason, I offer a humble country boy like you

    a peek into the enemy's propaganda. Watch the following documentary and then you will understand the underlying currents in political thought within the American pysche. The reason why American citizens are frightened of their own government and worried about people like GI Korea who mindlessly "follow orders". The following is NOT "demon"-crat propaganda, so don't shut down the old Republican thinking cap. Nor, is it Islamo-fascist tricks. If you have the courage and patience, this two-hour documentary will NOT change your outlook; but, it will cause you to stop, think, and formulate a more informed position.

    This film is something GI Korea will not watch in its entirety since he refuses to submit to propaganda. You, however, should at least be informed of what's happening within the minds of Americans… and why people like GI Korea concerns us.

    Check it out:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-47572747

  • Jon Allen
    7:19 am on January 15th, 2007 36

    Why did the original letter writer not put the name of the company?

    If it's a big multinational then it might be interesting

    to hear a spokesperson for that company then reply.

    But if it is some two bit Korean company.. who gives a damn.

  • Silly Sally
    9:06 am on January 15th, 2007 37

    Jon,

    GI Korea was recently encouraged to develop a "moral voice". This admonition compelled him to create an anti-racism posting in hopes of being perceived as "moral". This shows the depth of moral bankruptcy in GI Korea's soul. He doesn't even realize anti-racism — touting inclusivity, and denouncing separateness — is a false morality.

    GI Korea, slow down, take er easy … being moral is more than playing the race card.

  • Silly Sally
    9:31 am on January 15th, 2007 38

    Eldridge,

    Glad to see a kindred soul. Don't get me wrong, I like GI Korea. He is a nice guy. But nice guys have a comtemptible habit of hiding their heads in the sand. But, come to think of it, this willful ignorance is not so innocent. Maybe he is NOT nice. Dear Lord.

  • Dan
    10:04 am on January 15th, 2007 39

    Eldridge, I watched it—untill Cindy Started talking. The sight of her inflames me. She does not speak of love of country, but of hate for Bush.

    I could not believe see went to Korea! To speak about what? For her to say that she has the right to enter a military base only proved that she didn't have a clue about that for which she spoke. It's the old messege/messenger thing. You can't act like an air head and expect me to listen. Does Casey have a head stone yet?

    As to the info up to that part, it was given in a clear calm voice that I could understand. Most of it was not new to me, but some was.

    I will admit that the news and TV programing often seem to be of little value. also I sometime get that "living in the Matrix" feeling. I trust and hope there are people with power and love for America that will not allow this to happen. I do believe some of this goes on, but not realy sold on most of it. I've stated this before, the sigh for me is the battle for gun control. If that is lost there will be trouble. It won't be lost as it was in England! That one stupid blond was a trip, "i would give up my liberity to secure my freedom". What a nut job.

    Cindy should not be your spokesPerson. I and many many others just won't listen to her. I don't have enough negative words to discribe her.

    Just remember: When the guns go they take your freedom with them.

    In closeing: I hate the race card, but I like profiling. Almost all serial murders are white and between 25 and 45. But not 100% are male.

    Sonagi—made you look! In some areas his birthdey is used in place of, for the 4 day weekend. When Korea is one again, it will be the same for you I believe. There will be a mental devide for a very long time after unification. Just saying—–

  • Silly Sally
    11:51 am on January 15th, 2007 40

    Dan,

    Cindy discredits everything she touches. Maybe she is a CIA asset for that purpose. What do ya think?

  • Tom
    5:56 pm on January 15th, 2007 41

    She was discriminated against because she had Korean blood. Koreans are discriminated against in their own country by their own people. If she was White, she would have been hired. So why are all the white people up in arms saying white people are being discriminated? Bizzare.

    The company did nothing wrong. They just said it's business. Koreans want white people teaching English because Koreans believe only white people can speak English, seeing that only white people can be Americans (besides, isn't one of her parent German, not American?). If you think about it, isn't that how most "Americans" truly think inside (but not dare to say it in front of public)?

    Well, I just don't get how people here twist a perfect case of racial discrimination against a Korean, into a discrinimation case against a white. Biazzar how the expat minds work here.

  • Dan
    6:03 pm on January 15th, 2007 42

    Possible. I could see that as more likely than grieving mother. Possible also she is just an idiot. If that could be proven—you would have a weapon of great value.

  • Sonagi
    3:34 am on January 16th, 2007 43

    Tom wrote:

    Well, I just don’t get how people here twist a perfect case of racial discrimination against a Korean, into a discrinimation case against a white. Biazzar how the expat minds work here.

    You have misunderstood, Tom. Only Dan did not know that the woman in question was of Korean ancestry and discriminated against because it because it was not evident in the above post and he did not click the link to the KT story, in which the woman was told very plainly that the company hired only white people. Guess what, Tom. GI Korea and I can read and understand English, and what's more, I noted correctly the reason for the discrimination in capital letters in one of my posts. What's bizarre is how you totally misunderstood. I just don't get how a fluent English speaker like yourself can twist a very clear and correct understanding of the situation.

    If you think about it, isn’t that how most “Americans” truly think inside (but not dare to say it in front of public)?

    Love those unprovable generalizations. I'm also wondering why you put quotation marks around the word "Americans."

  • Silly Sally
    9:39 am on January 16th, 2007 44

    Dan, there is an intelligence word for Cindy: an unwitting agent-provocateur designed to contaminate the opposition's cause. Maybe she is both an idiot and a great asset for that reason. I think you ought to finish watching the documentary … overcome the Cindy hurdle.

    SONAGI, come on … give TOM a break. He is essentially right. The topic was unconsciously introduced to re-enforce the false morality of anti-racism. GI somehow feels good, doing this. It reveals GI's Catholic belief that Political Correctness is more salvific than Jesus Christ's own sacrifice on the cross.

    A Korean proprietor has every right to discriminate in order to protect his private business interests. You don't want to see Koreans back in the poor house — do you? Poverty is the core reason for terrorism … if you mandate Koreans to hire a percentage of non-white English teachers… other Koreans don't patronize the hogwon … the owner files for bankrupcty … Korean Hogwon owners no longer will be simple domestic terrorists, they become international extremists with nuclear suitcase bombs… headed for New York.

    Sonagi, don't encourage extremism.

  • Dan
    5:35 pm on January 16th, 2007 45

    Silly Sally, I would not have thought it possible that you would write something that I could agree with, but ya did. "A Korean proprietor has every right to discriminate in order to protect his private business interest." You are very much correct.

    Desegregation has done much damage to my city to the north, Memphis. Schools that were all white are near 90% black. The white flight from memphis has caused my sleepy little mississippi town extreme growth. I can see other homes now! We have a Walmart!!

    All this while memphis decays and the black on black murder rate is twelve so far this year. While the black mayor talks of a new football stadium, his people are being shot down openly in the street. My point is, an unpopular and unnecessary change forced on the people will kill businesses and destroy publiic schools. It may sound like a great idea, but for memphis it was its undoing.

    It seems very important to you that I watch the second half of the vid, so I'll do so later today when time permits. But remember, it took two messagers to get me to watch her message.

  • Silly Sally
    9:52 am on January 17th, 2007 46

    Dan,

    I would never have thought it possible either (for you to agree with me) since you spiritually murdered my existential existence(dispensed with my personhood)— because you don't "like" my messenger style.

    I assumed, out of priniciple, you would ignore the merits of every thing I say, .. just as you do with Cindy Sheehan. But, alas I accidentally conformed to a pet belief of yours (the right to economic self-determination). Like a divine force you resurrected me back into personhood … a wonderful confirmation from you. This, however, violates GI Korea's persona non-grata rule for Silly Sally on this blog. You just might be in GI's doghouse. May I personally, however, refer to you as GOD.

    Maybe since you are leaping over the Cindy and Sally hurdle, you might give me your opinion about the "Terror Storm" documentary near the end: about the compelling circumstantial evidence, especially the implications of the Larry Silverstein confession coupled with the "pulling" of Building number 7.

    There is a "big" implication that GI and others would prefer to avoid. I wonder what YOU think. You seem to be a tad bit braver than our GI Korea.

  • Dan
    9:07 pm on January 17th, 2007 47

    Sally, I will try to not avoid the implication. But don't get your hopes up too high.

    True, there was more than just cindy in the vid. There was Charlie! An actor that I like. I don't respect any of them, but I like his work. His interview was did not offend me at all. He was not sure, and that is what I liked about it. It is proper to question and look at the information on hand. Most of us, or at least I, do not have the training and education needed to understand the "why" of the towers pancaking onto themselves. I must rely on others (with that training) to discribe the process. An issue of Popular Mechanics did that very well for me in 2005. It appeared to have all the facts and theory with all the I's doted and T's crossed.

    I think the operative word for the "terror Storm" documentary is (circumstantial).

    WTC#7 was explained in this way: #7 was designed with a large part of the support structure cantilevered over a power station. It could not withstand the close proximity collapse of two megastructures upon its base.

    I understand that this will not convice anyone that wants to believe otherwise, but it worked for me.

    I also understand that the population (us) is viewed as a tool by the "Powerful Ones". This is nothing new and it will always be true. We want it that way and always have. That is why we (elect) individuals that are nothing like the population. A vast percent of the population is just plan stupid. We could lose half of the population and the only ones that would me hurt would be "The Powerful Ones". They would have fewer workers to earn wealth for them. I also know that many would wish for me to be in that half. I, of course, do not agree.

    A side note here; while I was in Iraq I was sitting at lunch one day with a civilian woman that managed the MWR CENTER. She advised me to watch my health after my retirement, stateing that people had told her things about what was underground in areas we were not allowed in. That is my feeling about not finding any WMDs. True? I don't know. I don't know it isn't true either.

    On the topic of the mentioned "Project for a New American Century", I know nothing of it. Look into it later.

  • Silly Sally
    11:05 am on January 18th, 2007 48

    Dan,

    You say the evidence is merely "circumstantial". Good point. Yet, we send people to death row based on compelling circumstantial evidence in courts of law.

    So, what do you mean by saying "circumstantial" is the "operative word" for Terror Storm? Do you mean there is no value in the evidence?

    What I find humorous about you and GI Korea, is this persistant and very queer idea — that if I persuade you away from an established position — then somehow this "conversion" is a "political victory" for a silly girl. As if the "Demon"-crats and Cindy Sheehan are lurking behind me… anticipating an ideological victory.

    Be on note: I have NO triumphal "hopes" of changing your mind. Believe me when I say, I am quite comfortable with people nursing their own delusions, as long as the mythology doesn't poisen my country.

    My persistant badgering GI Korea is not a cursing, nor dispensing of his existence into non persona-grata — which I think you and GI might be guilty.

    It's an attempt to a get a few American soldiers reading this — to stand on "neutral ground" … enough to break free from the military groupthink. Just enough to see clearly. I don't care once they see clearly — if they return to their established position. I just want them to taste the rarified air above the groupthink, for a few seconds.

    As for the ominous health warning from the civilian woman at the MWR Center. Why tentatively assume the mystery lurking below was Saddam's weapons? Why not DNA-damaging stock-piles of US depleted Uranium weapons, or tactical nukes with Iran's name on the warheads? Or, did she mutter a covert warning about the mercury in your copious vaccination shots? If, it was Iraqi WMD … the fact would be all over the newspapers — touted as justification to invade Iraq.

    And yes, the powers that be are seeking a "sustainable" new world for all of us. "Sustainable means culling the population of use-less eaters, managing the rest, and eradicating any pesky country boys with guns — who plink cans along fence-posts on Sundays — rather than attending a Purpose Driven mega-church.

    Now, Dan … here is my challenge to you: Larry Silverstein, the owner of the world trade center complex, (by his un-thinking mistake) admits on record that he gave permission to "pull" WTC building 7 just a few hours after the twin tower collapse. Boom … down went building 7 supposedly because the structure was dangerously cantilevered. Such a controlled demolition of building 7, however, takes weeks, if not months to pre-plan and set-up. Do you think it's possible that during the horror and confusion, a demolition team was quickly assembled to execute the demolition within a few hours?

    Watch these two short clips below, and then tell me your answer to the above question. If it's any consolation: I want to believe — just as you — that 9-11 WAS NOT a false-flag operation by a small criminal element in our government. By the way, the New American Century cabal believes there is a short window of opportunity to spread American influence around the world by controlling the oil reserves. They believe the stupid masses need to be galvanized by a "Pearl Harbor" event; an event that mobilizes America into action and will be continuously bolstered by sentimental country songs about "NEVER FORGETTING". These pragmatic men, will sacrifice American lives for the "greater good". I submit … the ends, DO NOT justify the means. How about you?

    Check it out below, and then report back to me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkIckS1WeHo&eu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkIckS1WeHo&eu

  • Dan
    2:06 am on January 20th, 2007 49

    Sally, as i said, it is right to question. Pearl Harbor was a rally cry, and rightly so. But some think that it was preventable. I am one of those. We knew in advance of the translation being delivered. But that delay that cost many lives, does not equal what happened on 9/11. A deliberate delay in timing is not the same as a deliberate act.

    I am very familiar with what those in power at my level were/are willing to do to further their agenda. I was victim a few times, and refused to stay in an additional two years by retiring soon as possiable, because of those times.

    Sustainable new world order will happen one day. And i shoot at little cans on saturdays or during the week. My rifle is loud.

    I tried, but I can not entertain the idea that 9/11 was an inside job.

    The Demoncrat have done a fine job with the useless eaters already. Just look at black wellfair population that can't get along without federal support but still find time to complain about being treated unfairly, and yes there are alot of whites there also. But the blacks make a job of it. Drive around in Memphis.

    The Pesky country boys are legion Sally. We know we are under attack from within already. We might be usefull to your country and mine when the times get bad. You should vote Republican next time. Stand up for a freedom that is vital. When a population looses the power to resist they become slaves. It is all well to air the warning, but all politicians are corrupt. At least vote for the ones that say they are for gun rights. Not the ones openly against.

    Yes, those songs about "never forget" piss me off also. But I like early Rock music so i don't hear them often. Besides, those guys singing—they don't care enough to put on a uniform—they just sing for the dollar. I'll watch the vids in a while. I felt it important for your "persona-grata".

  • Jon Allen
    3:27 am on January 23rd, 2007 50

    I see the story was on the front page of the Korea Times yesterday.

    It was a hagwon, I should have guessed.

    The owner claims the parents of the children do not like black teachers

    therefore he only hires whites.

  • Silly Sally
    10:09 am on January 23rd, 2007 51

    Dan, I am glad you are checking further into 9-11: the circumstantial evidence — especially Building 7 — that 9-11 is an inside job is compelling enough to at least put you on neutral ground — in order to justify further investigation. Yes, the North American Union WILL come about by stealth and coercion — establishing a sustainable new governance that jettitson's the US constitution. When you try to resist, however, GI Korea of this blog will be ordered to kill you with weaponry vastly superior to your rifle… and place your family in a Halliburton built "Community Center" currently waiting to be utilized in the USA. All for the common good, of course. Leon LaPorte's community service training has conditioned GI for his "unselfish" service.

    It's my opinion from reading GI's comments and character structure … he WILL follow orders… and kill fellow American country boys like you who resist.

    All in the name of BX privileges. What a whore.

  • Dan
    4:57 pm on January 23rd, 2007 52

    Yep, should have guessed Jon.

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