Comments on: The Continuing Myth of GI Crimes in Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/ Korea From North to South Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: clubs in dongducheon korea - Web - WebCrawler http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-71349 clubs in dongducheon korea - Web - WebCrawler Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:20:20 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-71349 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Republic of Last Login: 3/18/2007 www.myspace.com/49530476 [Found on Ask.com] 29. The Continuing Myth of GI Crimes in Korea at ROK Drop ... with their battalion commander standing in the club watching them? ... If USFK put all clubs [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Republic of Last Login: 3/18/2007 http://www.myspace.com/49530476 [Found on Ask.com] 29. The Continuing Myth of GI Crimes in Korea at ROK Drop … with their battalion commander standing in the club watching them? … If USFK put all clubs [...]

]]> By: statman cruthers http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-52829 statman cruthers Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:27:05 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-52829 <b>Ethan, I have my calculator out and I’m dividing 6,536 by 48,000,000 and I get 1.36166666666.</b> Was there an e-04 trailing after the 1.3616666666? It's 13.6 per 100,000 and the USFK stat is 2.5 per 100,000. If the ROK stat included sexual assaults that didn't end in rape, then your USFK number should also, and now it's up to 7.5 per 100,000. It's still a lot less but the small sample size means numbers could vary widely from year to year which makes the comparison difficult. But I think your point about low levels of crime holds. Ethan, I have my calculator out and I’m dividing 6,536 by 48,000,000 and I get 1.36166666666.

Was there an e-04 trailing after the 1.3616666666?

It's 13.6 per 100,000 and the USFK stat is 2.5 per 100,000. If the ROK stat included sexual assaults that didn't end in rape, then your USFK number should also, and now it's up to 7.5 per 100,000. It's still a lot less but the small sample size means numbers could vary widely from year to year which makes the comparison difficult. But I think your point about low levels of crime holds.

]]> By: The Marmot’s Hole » GI Beats Pedestrian for Looking At Him http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-52763 The Marmot’s Hole » GI Beats Pedestrian for Looking At Him Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:26:13 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-52763 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/.....-in-korea/ [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/…..-in-korea/ [...]

]]> By: USFK Soldier Convicted and Sentenced in Grandma Rape Case at ROK Drop http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-9963 USFK Soldier Convicted and Sentenced in Grandma Rape Case at ROK Drop Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:50:45 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-9963 [...] Marmot is reporting that the soldier involved in the despicable grandma rape case has been sentenced to 4 years in prison.  The Marmot thinks that the soldier got off light.  In a [...] [...] Marmot is reporting that the soldier involved in the despicable grandma rape case has been sentenced to 4 years in prison.  The Marmot thinks that the soldier got off light.  In a [...]

]]> By: Is the ROK Drop a Korean Hate Site? at ROK Drop http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-7767 Is the ROK Drop a Korean Hate Site? at ROK Drop Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:30:24 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-7767 [...] also don’t consider the lack of concern for sexual assaults in Korea to be part of Korean culture.  The South Korean government giving a billion dollars a year to [...] [...] also don’t consider the lack of concern for sexual assaults in Korea to be part of Korean culture.  The South Korean government giving a billion dollars a year to [...]

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-4797 GI Korea Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:13:26 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-4797 I'm all with you for getting rid of the Phillipinas. It is just incredible to me that USFK is so concerned about human trafficking but they allow a club system to exist where Phillipina women are brought into the country as entertainers. If USFK put all clubs with Phillipinas and Russians in them off limits the human trafficking problem would be solved. I can only speculate however that USFK doesn't want to piss off the bar owners. I'm all with you for getting rid of the Phillipinas. It is just incredible to me that USFK is so concerned about human trafficking but they allow a club system to exist where Phillipina women are brought into the country as entertainers. If USFK put all clubs with Phillipinas and Russians in them off limits the human trafficking problem would be solved. I can only speculate however that USFK doesn't want to piss off the bar owners.

]]> By: Dan http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-4770 Dan Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:11:39 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-4770 Just a thought here---Leadership is not something your ordered to do (CP). Leadership is something you do, as in going to the ville in civies, not to party but to lookout for your "sometimes not too bright" troops. They know the difference. If those in leadership POSITIONS, don't know the difference than they ARE out of touch. As you stated, CP doesn't work. It just gives another reason for the troops to leave the ville. As if they need another reason. I saved a Sergeants stripes once, just by being down range and sober. No CP leadership badge was involved. Scrap the CP program and help make the ville a friendly place again. It was, and not many years ago. And get rid of the Philippine women. Don't encourage "Human Trafficing". The LEADERSHIP can have the meeting that is long over due with the Club Management, and put forth the "request". Leadership may not be up for this, but at one time they were. I could go on, but who really cares anyway? Just a thought here—Leadership is not something your ordered to do (CP).

Leadership is something you do, as in going to the ville in civies, not to party but to lookout for your "sometimes not too bright" troops. They know the difference. If those in leadership POSITIONS, don't know the difference than they ARE out of touch.

As you stated, CP doesn't work. It just gives another reason for the troops to leave the ville. As if they need another reason.

I saved a Sergeants stripes once, just by being down range and sober. No CP leadership badge was involved. Scrap the CP program and help make the ville a friendly place again. It was, and not many years ago.

And get rid of the Philippine women. Don't encourage "Human Trafficing". The LEADERSHIP can have the meeting that is long over due with the Club Management, and put forth the "request". Leadership may not be up for this, but at one time they were.

I could go on, but who really cares anyway?

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-3966 GI Korea Sat, 10 Feb 2007 05:05:43 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-3966 Ethan, I have my calculator out and I'm dividing 6,536 by 48,000,000 and I get 1.36166666666. How is the GI sample size to small when I even included in USFK family members and contractors? There is no one else to add to the number. That is the size of USFK. Think of USFK as a town of 40,000 people and in three years you had one rape and two sexual assaults. How many towns of 40,000 people in Korea can claim that? To make things even harder for USFK nearly the entire population changes out every year bringing in new people. So are you saying that you believe GIs rape more Koreans on average despite statistical evidence that shows a Korean woman is more likely to be raped by a Korean man? It so I have so assume it is in grained into you that GIs walk the streets looking for people to rape, your mind will never be changed no matter how many newspaper articles I show on this blog and statiscal evidence I pull from Korean websites showing otherwise. Ethan, I have my calculator out and I'm dividing 6,536 by 48,000,000 and I get 1.36166666666. How is the GI sample size to small when I even included in USFK family members and contractors? There is no one else to add to the number. That is the size of USFK. Think of USFK as a town of 40,000 people and in three years you had one rape and two sexual assaults. How many towns of 40,000 people in Korea can claim that? To make things even harder for USFK nearly the entire population changes out every year bringing in new people.

So are you saying that you believe GIs rape more Koreans on average despite statistical evidence that shows a Korean woman is more likely to be raped by a Korean man?

It so I have so assume it is in grained into you that GIs walk the streets looking for people to rape, your mind will never be changed no matter how many newspaper articles I show on this blog and statiscal evidence I pull from Korean websites showing otherwise.

]]> By: Ethan http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-3949 Ethan Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:47:57 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-3949 Can you please explain how you arrived at 1.361%? That seems oddly high. I just divided 6,536 by 48,000,000 and that is 0.0001361. Multiply that by 100, you get 0.01361%, which is still higher than .000025%. But then, GI's sample size is too small to be statistically meaningful, hence I don't think it's a valid comparison between the two. You could also argue that many rape cases are not reported blah blah blah. Can you please explain how you arrived at 1.361%? That seems oddly high. I just divided 6,536 by 48,000,000 and that is 0.0001361. Multiply that by 100, you get 0.01361%, which is still higher than .000025%. But then, GI's sample size is too small to be statistically meaningful, hence I don't think it's a valid comparison between the two. You could also argue that many rape cases are not reported blah blah blah.

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » Here Comes the Election! http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/comment-page-1/#comment-3188 OneFreeKorea » Here Comes the Election! Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:55:28 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/01/20/the-continuing-myth-of-gi-crimes-in-korea/#comment-3188 [...] Your next wrong guess is that this is a law enforcement problem, which is a mistake you wouldn’t make if you’ve been watching how the Korean cops (never) deal with their own country’s unions.  You can’t deny that boorish behavior, criminal or otherwise, is distasteful regardless of the actor’s ethnicity.  Instead, Korea follows the lazy path of collective guilt, which fails to make the distinction between serious (alleged) crimes by a very few, and which may merit serious punishment, and the criminalization of behavior that’s normal and accepted when Koreans do it.  Maybe if the soldiers would simply organize, buy some iron pipes, and call themselves a “civic group,” they might even qualify for government funding.  Honestly, I have no idea how anyone could write a coherent operational definition of “law and order” in Korea today. [...] [...] Your next wrong guess is that this is a law enforcement problem, which is a mistake you wouldn’t make if you’ve been watching how the Korean cops (never) deal with their own country’s unions.  You can’t deny that boorish behavior, criminal or otherwise, is distasteful regardless of the actor’s ethnicity.  Instead, Korea follows the lazy path of collective guilt, which fails to make the distinction between serious (alleged) crimes by a very few, and which may merit serious punishment, and the criminalization of behavior that’s normal and accepted when Koreans do it.  Maybe if the soldiers would simply organize, buy some iron pipes, and call themselves a “civic group,” they might even qualify for government funding.  Honestly, I have no idea how anyone could write a coherent operational definition of “law and order” in Korea today. [...]

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