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		<title>By: Look.com - current 2007 guestbook of engineers in asia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Look.com - current 2007 guestbook of engineers in asia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] HK Flix ...http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/13/heroes-of-the-korean-war-colonel-paul-freeman-part-2/The Policy of Irrelevancy at ROK Drop... Policy of Irrelevancy. Published by. GI Korea. February 6, 2007 in US ... US directly [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Let My People Go&#8221; at ROK Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Let My People Go&#8221; at ROK Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just another sign that Korea is becoming more and more irrelevant.Â  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MilBlogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>MilBlogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;War on Terror Comes Home to South Korea...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Republic of Korea (ROK) Army deployed troops to Afghanistan immediately upon a US request in 2002 as well as deploying 3,000 soldiers to support the US mission in Iraq. The ROK Army due to the South Korean government's risk......</description>
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<p>The Republic of Korea (ROK) Army deployed troops to Afghanistan immediately upon a US request in 2002 as well as deploying 3,000 soldiers to support the US mission in Iraq. The ROK Army due to the South Korean government&#8217;s risk&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/06/the-policy-of-irrelevancy/#comment-3868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GI Korea,

You are dead-on about Silly Sally's pernicious ability to brainwash; look how she brainwashed
Zbigniew Brzezinski, a man with decades of experience in the top echelons of the US foreign policy establishment, a man who has the closest links to the military and intelligence agencies, now issues Silly Sally's ominous inferences at an open hearing of the US Senate. Thank God, we have low-level minions like you denouncing victims of Sally's mind control. I believe this is your God-given calling.

Former National Security Advisor and founding member of the Trilateral Commission Zbigniew Brzezinski tacitly warned a Senate Foreign Relations Committee last week that an attack on Iran could be launched following a staged provocation in Iraq or a false flag terror attack within the U.S. 

Brzezinski alluded to the potential for the Bush administration to manufacture a false flag Gulf of Tonkin type incident in describing a "plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran," which would revolve around "some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in a â€˜defensive' US military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.â€ 

Brzezinski was careful to highlight the word "defensive" as if to discount its credibility, suggesting that the Bush White House itself would be behind the attack or provocation and subsequently use it as a pretext for war. 

Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski arrived to testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, February 1, 2007. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES)  
After Senators asked Brzezinski for clarification of exactly what he meant, the Polish-American political scientist referenced the infamous White House memo in which Bush and Blair discussed staging a provocation for an invasion of Iraq following the absence of weapons of mass destruction. Brzezinski cited how Bush "described the several ways in which this could be done," but refused to elaborate, stating only, "the ways were quite sensational, at least one of them." 

Brzezinski is of course referring to the plan to fly a U2 spy plane painted with UN colors over Iraq and goading Saddam to order the aircraft shot down, resulting in widespread international support for the war. Bush and Blair openly discussed the possibility of staging this provocation along with others during their January 31 2003 meeting. 

"If one is of the view that one is dealing with an implacable enemy that has to be removed, that course of action may under certain circumstances be appealing. I'm afraid that if this situation in Iraq continues to deteriorate, and if Iran is perceived as in some fashion involved or responsible, or a potential beneficiary, that temptation could arise," said Brzezinski.

From what I understand GI, you have no problem giving Democracy little kick-starts (false-flaggery, sexed-up intelligence, etc.) in the name of Democracy and Freedom.

Do most military Christians "practice" their faith like you? I am curious about the military Christian culture, these days. Do you boys now consider the ends justifying the means? Will you boys resort to anything ... to make this a better world? Tell us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GI Korea,</p>
<p>You are dead-on about Silly Sally&#8217;s pernicious ability to brainwash; look how she brainwashed<br />
Zbigniew Brzezinski, a man with decades of experience in the top echelons of the US foreign policy establishment, a man who has the closest links to the military and intelligence agencies, now issues Silly Sally&#8217;s ominous inferences at an open hearing of the US Senate. Thank God, we have low-level minions like you denouncing victims of Sally&#8217;s mind control. I believe this is your God-given calling.</p>
<p>Former National Security Advisor and founding member of the Trilateral Commission Zbigniew Brzezinski tacitly warned a Senate Foreign Relations Committee last week that an attack on Iran could be launched following a staged provocation in Iraq or a false flag terror attack within the U.S. </p>
<p>Brzezinski alluded to the potential for the Bush administration to manufacture a false flag Gulf of Tonkin type incident in describing a &#8220;plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran,&#8221; which would revolve around &#8220;some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in a â€˜defensive&#8217; US military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.â€ </p>
<p>Brzezinski was careful to highlight the word &#8220;defensive&#8221; as if to discount its credibility, suggesting that the Bush White House itself would be behind the attack or provocation and subsequently use it as a pretext for war. </p>
<p>Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski arrived to testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, February 1, 2007. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES)<br />
After Senators asked Brzezinski for clarification of exactly what he meant, the Polish-American political scientist referenced the infamous White House memo in which Bush and Blair discussed staging a provocation for an invasion of Iraq following the absence of weapons of mass destruction. Brzezinski cited how Bush &#8220;described the several ways in which this could be done,&#8221; but refused to elaborate, stating only, &#8220;the ways were quite sensational, at least one of them.&#8221; </p>
<p>Brzezinski is of course referring to the plan to fly a U2 spy plane painted with UN colors over Iraq and goading Saddam to order the aircraft shot down, resulting in widespread international support for the war. Bush and Blair openly discussed the possibility of staging this provocation along with others during their January 31 2003 meeting. </p>
<p>&#8220;If one is of the view that one is dealing with an implacable enemy that has to be removed, that course of action may under certain circumstances be appealing. I&#8217;m afraid that if this situation in Iraq continues to deteriorate, and if Iran is perceived as in some fashion involved or responsible, or a potential beneficiary, that temptation could arise,&#8221; said Brzezinski.</p>
<p>From what I understand GI, you have no problem giving Democracy little kick-starts (false-flaggery, sexed-up intelligence, etc.) in the name of Democracy and Freedom.</p>
<p>Do most military Christians &#8220;practice&#8221; their faith like you? I am curious about the military Christian culture, these days. Do you boys now consider the ends justifying the means? Will you boys resort to anything &#8230; to make this a better world? Tell us.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/06/the-policy-of-irrelevancy/#comment-3806</link>
		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, don't tell me Silly Sally has brain washed you now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, don&#8217;t tell me Silly Sally has brain washed you now?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, gi korea. Zaytun is no longer needed for legitimacy. The agenda now in Iraq is to set down permanent bases and dominate the Middle East from there. Being incompetant just enough to allow a civil war to rage justifies keeping our forces in the area for a long time. This is good for American geo-strategy, and blocks the Russians and Chinese before they go for the big Middle East land grab. What the U.S. military needs now is another 9-11 attack back in the states to get even the liberals behind us. Lots of dead babies and women will do the job. They did this with the Gladio operations: government black operations killing civilians to make them beg for state security and cooperate. Even you can agree it's hard to get a Democracy to do the right thing, without a little help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, gi korea. Zaytun is no longer needed for legitimacy. The agenda now in Iraq is to set down permanent bases and dominate the Middle East from there. Being incompetant just enough to allow a civil war to rage justifies keeping our forces in the area for a long time. This is good for American geo-strategy, and blocks the Russians and Chinese before they go for the big Middle East land grab. What the U.S. military needs now is another 9-11 attack back in the states to get even the liberals behind us. Lots of dead babies and women will do the job. They did this with the Gladio operations: government black operations killing civilians to make them beg for state security and cooperate. Even you can agree it&#8217;s hard to get a Democracy to do the right thing, without a little help.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/06/the-policy-of-irrelevancy/#comment-3735</link>
		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seoulmilk, in regards to Cheney visiting Japan, it is because Japan politically has been a strong supporter of the US along with being very helpful in restructuring the US-Japan alliance.  Talks with Japan are useful and will accomplish something.  

Korea on the otherhand Cheney probably feels like has backed stabbed the US by pulling out of agreements that were signed and made only a few weeks before Rumsfeld left office.  Rumsfeld is replaced and suddenly right before Christmas the Korean government says all agreements are null and void.  Cheney probably feels like there is nothing to discuss by visiting Korea.  

By the way the Zaytun unit will be redeployed from Kurdistan by the end of the year:

http://rokdrop.com/2006/12/01/zaytun-unit-to-be-redeployed-from-iraq/

Jimmy,

You should know better to read or believe anything in Newsweek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seoulmilk, in regards to Cheney visiting Japan, it is because Japan politically has been a strong supporter of the US along with being very helpful in restructuring the US-Japan alliance.  Talks with Japan are useful and will accomplish something.  </p>
<p>Korea on the otherhand Cheney probably feels like has backed stabbed the US by pulling out of agreements that were signed and made only a few weeks before Rumsfeld left office.  Rumsfeld is replaced and suddenly right before Christmas the Korean government says all agreements are null and void.  Cheney probably feels like there is nothing to discuss by visiting Korea.  </p>
<p>By the way the Zaytun unit will be redeployed from Kurdistan by the end of the year:</p>
<p><a href="http://rokdrop.com/2006/12/01/zaytun-unit-to-be-redeployed-from-iraq/" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/2006/12/01/zaytun-unit-to-be-redeployed-from-iraq/</a></p>
<p>Jimmy,</p>
<p>You should know better to read or believe anything in Newsweek.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Koreans are relevant props for the mythical coalition of the willing; thus, they are relevant. Zaytun, however, will not be allowed to snoop, and interfere. Korean loyalty to Anglo-American interests is highly questionable, and just might tattle on the Americans if they blunder onto what is really going on. Best leave them harmless up in Kurdistan building toilets and obsessed with StarCraft.

Former British Ambassador to the Central Asian Republic of Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, wrote that he suspects the ongoing sectarian violence in Iraq has been intentionally provoked and continued by US and UK special forces in occupation of the country.

The Koreans can only be trusted to spill the beans.

Murray states:

"As the catastrophe in Iraq continues to unfold, an unresolved question remains on the role of Bush, Blair, and the US/UK military. To what extent were they passively incompetent in facilitating the decline into civil war, and to what extent were they actively pursuing policies that promoted that outcome?"

Murray suspects that as part of a "divide and conquer" strategy, the same strategy used by British forces in Iraq 85 years ago, Special Forces are being used to intentionally foment civil war by training and equipping Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Shiite militiamen, to target Sunni insurgents and their sympathizers.

The adoption of the 'Salvador Option' by the US in Iraq was reported and discussed from the beginning of 2005 onwards. 

Newsweek reported that this Pentagon or CIA handled operation "would even extend across the border into Syria, according to military insiders familiar with the discussions... The current thinking is that while U.S. Special Forces would lead operations in, say, Syria, activities inside Iraq itself would be carried out by Iraqi paramilitaries."

"The evidence that the US directly contributes to the creation of the current civil war in Iraq by its own secretive security strategy is compelling." Murray added.

Thus, Zaytun is highly relevant in Kurdistan. They are window dressing without a clue. Best that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Koreans are relevant props for the mythical coalition of the willing; thus, they are relevant. Zaytun, however, will not be allowed to snoop, and interfere. Korean loyalty to Anglo-American interests is highly questionable, and just might tattle on the Americans if they blunder onto what is really going on. Best leave them harmless up in Kurdistan building toilets and obsessed with StarCraft.</p>
<p>Former British Ambassador to the Central Asian Republic of Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, wrote that he suspects the ongoing sectarian violence in Iraq has been intentionally provoked and continued by US and UK special forces in occupation of the country.</p>
<p>The Koreans can only be trusted to spill the beans.</p>
<p>Murray states:</p>
<p>&#8220;As the catastrophe in Iraq continues to unfold, an unresolved question remains on the role of Bush, Blair, and the US/UK military. To what extent were they passively incompetent in facilitating the decline into civil war, and to what extent were they actively pursuing policies that promoted that outcome?&#8221;</p>
<p>Murray suspects that as part of a &#8220;divide and conquer&#8221; strategy, the same strategy used by British forces in Iraq 85 years ago, Special Forces are being used to intentionally foment civil war by training and equipping Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Shiite militiamen, to target Sunni insurgents and their sympathizers.</p>
<p>The adoption of the &#8216;Salvador Option&#8217; by the US in Iraq was reported and discussed from the beginning of 2005 onwards. </p>
<p>Newsweek reported that this Pentagon or CIA handled operation &#8220;would even extend across the border into Syria, according to military insiders familiar with the discussions&#8230; The current thinking is that while U.S. Special Forces would lead operations in, say, Syria, activities inside Iraq itself would be carried out by Iraqi paramilitaries.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The evidence that the US directly contributes to the creation of the current civil war in Iraq by its own secretive security strategy is compelling.&#8221; Murray added.</p>
<p>Thus, Zaytun is highly relevant in Kurdistan. They are window dressing without a clue. Best that way.</p>
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		<title>By: seoulmilk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gi korea, i agree with you completely.  don't get me wrong, i believe the "snub" is justified.  but the fact that it's coming from chosun, whose editorial is very pro-us, i can understand why they would write an editorial like that.  remember, korean society likes to compare everything, especially japan.  you mention that korea's initial contribution was recognized but is now irrelevant.  then by same logic, couldn't one argue that japan's contribution is irrelevant now, and yet, they are being visited by cheney?  however irrelevant the korean contribution is, it did benefit bush.  today, the debate is whether or not to increase the troop presence in the us.  if korea, along with few other nations started to pull out, then the left would use that to minimalize the argument for troop increase saying that in actuality, troops are not increasing, only replacing ally troops.  anyway, all i'm saying is, koreans believe that they are aiding the us in an unpopular war, but for many to comment the korean contribution as nothing but making toilet seats, then well, i can understand why koreans are always complaining about how americans treat them like sh*t, whether or not koreans deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gi korea, i agree with you completely.  don&#8217;t get me wrong, i believe the &#8220;snub&#8221; is justified.  but the fact that it&#8217;s coming from chosun, whose editorial is very pro-us, i can understand why they would write an editorial like that.  remember, korean society likes to compare everything, especially japan.  you mention that korea&#8217;s initial contribution was recognized but is now irrelevant.  then by same logic, couldn&#8217;t one argue that japan&#8217;s contribution is irrelevant now, and yet, they are being visited by cheney?  however irrelevant the korean contribution is, it did benefit bush.  today, the debate is whether or not to increase the troop presence in the us.  if korea, along with few other nations started to pull out, then the left would use that to minimalize the argument for troop increase saying that in actuality, troops are not increasing, only replacing ally troops.  anyway, all i&#8217;m saying is, koreans believe that they are aiding the us in an unpopular war, but for many to comment the korean contribution as nothing but making toilet seats, then well, i can understand why koreans are always complaining about how americans treat them like sh*t, whether or not koreans deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 05:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seoulmilk you are correct with the initial political relevance but since then the Zaytun unit has been irrelevant but the VP visited Korea in 2004 to thanks Korea's troop deployment, during the last ASEAN summit that Bush attended in Pusan he thanked Korea for the troop deployment and Rumsfeld actually flew to Iraq and traveled to Irbil to thank the  Zaytun soldiers there.  Korea has been recognized for the deployment, but the Chosun article makes it appear they want more recognition than what they are entitled to compared to US allies Japan and Australia.

In response to Tom, Korea received huge benefits from their involvement in the Vietnam War.  The economic success of Korea's major conglomerates is linked to the ROK's involvement in the Vietnam War.  They made huge profits with contracts during the Vietnam War not to mention favorable trade deals given to the ROK on exports to the US.  

http://www.kisc.org/kti/issues/1998/7-8/koreana.html

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"The Vietnam War was a boon to the growing Korean chaebol, especially Hyundai and Hanjin. With the backing of the U.S. Army, Hanjin became virtually the sole operator of the key Vietnamese port of Qui Nhon, and provided both marine and land transportation for the American forces in Vietnam. In support of this effort, Hanjin established an air and sea transport company in Korea to ferry supplies and workers to Vietnam. Using the enormous profits generated by this activity and paid for by the American military forces in Vietnam, Hanjin bought the then ailing Korean Air Lines from the Korean government and subsequently turned it into one of the world's premiere airline companies.

Hyundai and the hurriedly established construction divisions of other chaebol were given major construction contracts in Korea by the U.S. Army, providing them with a fund of experience as well as huge profits, which made it possible for them to bid on and win numerous construction contracts in the Middle East and elsewhere when the Vietnam war ended. Records show that in just four years in the latter part of the 1970s Korea's top 10 chaebol made $22 billion on construction projects in the Middle East."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seoulmilk you are correct with the initial political relevance but since then the Zaytun unit has been irrelevant but the VP visited Korea in 2004 to thanks Korea&#8217;s troop deployment, during the last ASEAN summit that Bush attended in Pusan he thanked Korea for the troop deployment and Rumsfeld actually flew to Iraq and traveled to Irbil to thank the  Zaytun soldiers there.  Korea has been recognized for the deployment, but the Chosun article makes it appear they want more recognition than what they are entitled to compared to US allies Japan and Australia.</p>
<p>In response to Tom, Korea received huge benefits from their involvement in the Vietnam War.  The economic success of Korea&#8217;s major conglomerates is linked to the ROK&#8217;s involvement in the Vietnam War.  They made huge profits with contracts during the Vietnam War not to mention favorable trade deals given to the ROK on exports to the US.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kisc.org/kti/issues/1998/7-8/koreana.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.kisc.org/kti/issues/1998/7-8/koreana.html</a></p>
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<p>&#8220;The Vietnam War was a boon to the growing Korean chaebol, especially Hyundai and Hanjin. With the backing of the U.S. Army, Hanjin became virtually the sole operator of the key Vietnamese port of Qui Nhon, and provided both marine and land transportation for the American forces in Vietnam. In support of this effort, Hanjin established an air and sea transport company in Korea to ferry supplies and workers to Vietnam. Using the enormous profits generated by this activity and paid for by the American military forces in Vietnam, Hanjin bought the then ailing Korean Air Lines from the Korean government and subsequently turned it into one of the world&#8217;s premiere airline companies.</p>
<p>Hyundai and the hurriedly established construction divisions of other chaebol were given major construction contracts in Korea by the U.S. Army, providing them with a fund of experience as well as huge profits, which made it possible for them to bid on and win numerous construction contracts in the Middle East and elsewhere when the Vietnam war ended. Records show that in just four years in the latter part of the 1970s Korea&#8217;s top 10 chaebol made $22 billion on construction projects in the Middle East.&#8221;</p>
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