I have no idea if what CH said about the doctor using disrespectful language is true, but it would certainly not justify what happened to him. Using foul or disrespectful language should be avoided just because it can lead to unpredictable escalations, but it wouldn’t justify any violence.

I knew an older teacher in Korea who spoke little Korean despite having lived in Korea for at least eight years. When people looked at this hoary and hairy hulk for more than half a second, he would turn to them and say, “죽을래?!” Except it sounded like “축하…ㄹ래!”

I just stumbled on to this site and one of you mentioned a US GI who got 30 years sentence from raping a KATUSA soldier…. I WAS IN THAT PLDC NCO training school and saw all those dudes who raped him… (no, not the actual rape scene). It was Feb-March training of 2002 PLDC course in Camp Jackson.

The offenders were totaled four GIs, and I believe the one that got the 30 years is a US born Thai or Laos guy (yes I remember him clearly), and two or three blacks. I did not want to associate with them from the very beginning, as they all acted like street gangsters.

What's worst, the exact bathroom that the KATUSA got assaulted was a same creepy bathroom that I used often during the training at late night. This bathroom was located far side and was often empty.

About 2 months after the school was finished, I was called in by a Korean investigator who told me what exactly happened and asked me for some verification. I gave him my only copy of the 'Group Picture' of the NCO candidates that had faces of all the students. He asked me point out the South East Asian looking guy with gangster-like behavior, and I pointed the Asian dude. He also asked me to point out the other blacks and I was able to point one or two, but was difficult with the picture containing about 150 soldiers’' small faces. He borrowed the picture from me but never gave me back the picture as he promised however. There were one or two other soldiers who got called in for verification regarding the incident from my unit of soldiers who attended the school.

Gosh… after all these years, I guess that man got 30 years huh… I did see some news about the incident right after, but did not know the final result.

“The woman in the next bunk, who was sleeping in her T-shirt and underwear, later said she struck the soldier after waking up to his touch, said Willey — who quickly turned on her cell-phone light and saw a man running out the door.”

Rpae? If the witness, who was awake and saw the entire incident from start to finish, is being honest, probably not. A little common sense might also assist one in determining the low probability of an actual rpae under the conditions reported in S&S.

“Sxeaul Assuault means rape. Grow a pair, wouldya?”

It is true that Texas Penal Code (22.011) defines sxeual assault as rpae… so your misunderstanding is acceptable.

A dictionary definition, however, is, “Sxeual assault is any physical contact of a sxeual nature without voluntary consent.” Perhaps that is what is being used to describe this situation.

Would it be trolling to suggest that no sxeual assault occurred if the Korean soldier’s actions were based on anatomical curiosity rather than sxeual gratification?

Nevermind. Next topic.

“Your lack of understanding about Texas is understandable, given your undoubtedly poor study habits. I have some friends here in Korea that would be happy to provide you some personal instruction.”

Well, I guess those undoubtedly poor study habits explain why I never went much past the 6th grade. You got me there.

I’m not sure what “personal instruction” might mean. Perhaps they intend to cook me a nice big Texas ribeye? Or demonstrate the freedoms inspired by John Geddes Lawrence? Q.E.D.

“Item 1: blaming the murder victim”

jtb, jtb, jtb…

You misunderstand. There is a difference between blaming a victim and explaining why misfortune befell them. Once again, there is nothing he could have said which “deserved” a stabbing… but there are things he could have said to a crazy person which got him one.

He can’t be “blamed” for the unreasonable actions of another.

But… he DID get stabbed to death… and there IS a reason.

Based on knowledge and belief, I feel it is probable he said something offensive to the stabber. This doesn’t take the “blame” away from the stabber and place it on the stabee… but it provides a reasonable explanation for the motivation behind an unusual act.

Despite a lot of whining, nobody has proposed a sensible counter-theory or even given any reason why my theory can’t be true.

There was no emphasis in my writing on specifically blaming the stabber as it is rather self-evident. My mistake not to pander to the needs of the simple-minded. So… yes… the stabber gets the blame. The end.

Once again, many of the problems I see between GI Joe and Mr. Kim are based on a large helping of mouth-running with a generous side of cultural insensitivity.

I think USFK puts too much effort into creating non-existent problems which they can easily give the appearance of “solving” instead of putting effort into dealing with problems like these. This is accentuated with a policy of chasing GI Joe out of the Villes and into curfew-less Real Korea where actual damage can be done. It will take a dead taxi driver or a couple more raped grandmothers (or, more specifically, mainstream outrage) before USFK leadership huffs and puffs, blames the System and makes Draconian, yet mostly-ineffective, knee-jerk reactions so paperwork and media releases can be generated which show the problem is aggressively being “solved”.

“And, in CS’s previous, he as much as stated that if he had the S kicked out of him, it would be okay because he “ran his mouth” (figuratively speaking)”

Certainly not… but there might be those who shook their heads and said, “Well, he DID run his mouth. I can see why it happened.”

“I wouldn’t go out at night if I were either of you…”

Sure… with all your queeer Texan friends running around under the guise of “cow tippin’” (wink, wink), I’m scared to death to go out after dark.

J!

Your lack of understanding about Texas is understandable, given your undoubtedly poor study habits. I have some friends here in Korea that would be happy to provide you some personal instruction.

Mind you, I just live in Texas, I'm not "from" Texas… but I did get there as fast as I could…

Item 1: blaming the murder victim

ChickenHead Feb 17th, 2007 at 2:28 am

"Hmmm…

Somebody who was involved in the investigation told me the
whole story including Marjor Berry showing off his Korean
language skills. As my memory was accurate for the rest of
the story, I imagine this aspect is accurate, too.

Don’t bitch at me as I am just repeating what I heard from a
good source."

Item 2: blaming the rtape victim

skippy Oct 10th, 2007 at 3:18 pm

You can’t rape the willing….

In both cases, the victim was blamed, not the perpetrator. And, in CS's previous, he as much as stated that if he had the S kicked out of him, it would be okay because he "ran his mouth" (figuratively speaking)…

This type of humor is decidedly low-brow at best and–even given Skippy's attempt to call all ROK soldiers gay was just a joke–very dangerous if the law in this country allows the use of deadly force over an insult but prohibits the use in self-defense…

I wouldn't go out at night if I were either of you…