Comments on: The Defection of PFC White http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/ Serving on the Forgotten Frontier Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:16:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: CalmSeas http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-190619 CalmSeas Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:42:52 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-190619 "a North Korean agent in a club in the village of Bongilchon..." We are talking book rights here... :razz: “a North Korean agent in a club in the village of Bongilchon…”

We are talking book rights here… :razz:

]]> By: Edward R. Kline http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-190551 Edward R. Kline Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:30:35 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-190551 Pfc White defected plain and simple. I was stationed their in 82. From the land of the morning calm. To fishheads and rice 24/7. Have a nice life. Pfc White defected plain and simple. I was stationed their in 82. From the land of the morning calm. To fishheads and rice 24/7. Have a nice life.

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-149712 GI Korea Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:47:31 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-149712 According to Robert Neff's article the lock was shot from the inside which I'm sure ballistic analysis would be able to confirm if it was an M16 or not that shot it. Also sensitive items were left in the outpost that I would presume a North Korean raiding team would have taken instead of leaving behind. Finally there was witnesses that saw him walk across the DMZ by himself before being grabbed by North Koreans on the North's side of the MDL. According to the information available the kid defected and it appears even his family accepts this now. According to Robert Neff’s article the lock was shot from the inside which I’m sure ballistic analysis would be able to confirm if it was an M16 or not that shot it. Also sensitive items were left in the outpost that I would presume a North Korean raiding team would have taken instead of leaving behind. Finally there was witnesses that saw him walk across the DMZ by himself before being grabbed by North Koreans on the North’s side of the MDL.

According to the information available the kid defected and it appears even his family accepts this now.

]]> By: CQ82 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-149700 CQ82 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:50:27 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-149700 I was Division CQ the evening PFC White was captured. I was ordered to hand deliver the news of his capture to three Battalion HQs, my own, the 122nd Signal Bn at Camp casey Korea. The message that went out to our division commanders that morning was "US soldier captured by North Korean infiltrators on DML" It is my understanding that IR photography confirms White being lead away from Oulette at gunpoint, and the lock was shot off his gaurdpost from outside, not inside as otherwise claimed. PFC is a POW and should be treated as such. The fact he had a pass pulled (who didn't) and he didn't get along famously with his sergeabt (who did) and that he had scores of propganda leaflets (who didn't) in his footlocker - are all red herrings by a government who is perfectly happy leaving a man behind. They didn't want to start a war, period. Now I say we bring White home. If he died, it was while in North korean custody...but his death, like his capture has most likely been greatly exagerated. SOUND OFF 2nd D !! Leave No man behind !! I was Division CQ the evening PFC White was captured. I was ordered to hand deliver the news of his capture to three Battalion HQs, my own, the 122nd Signal Bn at Camp casey Korea. The message that went out to our division commanders that morning was “US soldier captured by North Korean infiltrators on DML” It is my understanding that IR photography confirms White being lead away from Oulette at gunpoint, and the lock was shot off his gaurdpost from outside, not inside as otherwise claimed.

PFC is a POW and should be treated as such. The fact he had a pass pulled (who didn’t) and he didn’t get along famously with his sergeabt (who did) and that he had scores of propganda leaflets (who didn’t) in his footlocker - are all red herrings by a government who is perfectly happy leaving a man behind. They didn’t want to start a war, period. Now I say we bring White home. If he died, it was while in North korean custody…but his death, like his capture has most likely been greatly exagerated.

SOUND OFF 2nd D !! Leave No man behind !!

]]> By: Kent Duke http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-13216 Kent Duke Sun, 18 Mar 2007 02:10:59 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-13216 I was at Casey when that shithead went North and I heard the same old thing. It was a YOBO and top was on his ass. I was at Casey when that shithead went North and I heard the same old thing. It was a YOBO and top was on his ass.

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6776 GI Korea Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:44:52 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6776 He may have been but I have seen plenty of American boys lives go down the drain quickly because of drinky girls, so I'm sure the yobos back 82 altered peoples behavior just as much then as the juicy girls do now. He may have been but I have seen plenty of American boys lives go down the drain quickly because of drinky girls, so I’m sure the yobos back 82 altered peoples behavior just as much then as the juicy girls do now.

]]> By: CPT KIM http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6772 CPT KIM Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:09:29 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6772 I remembered when White defected to North, his mother was in denial. Her exact words were "My son is Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich all American boy." I remembered when White defected to North, his mother was in denial. Her exact words were “My son is Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich all American boy.”

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6744 GI Korea Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:12:43 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6744 Rich, Some people that I know that served in Korea in the early 80's told me the same thing but I have never read anything that proves that. I think it is just an urban legend that was passed around to discourage soldiers from defecting. Rich,

Some people that I know that served in Korea in the early 80’s told me the same thing but I have never read anything that proves that. I think it is just an urban legend that was passed around to discourage soldiers from defecting.

]]> By: Rich http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6670 Rich Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:32:48 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6670 Hear pretty much the same story about White, I had also heard a rumor that his body had been found floating down the Imjin with his throat slit, perhaps this is untrue.. Hear pretty much the same story about White, I had also heard a rumor that his body had been found floating down the Imjin with his throat slit, perhaps this is untrue..

]]> By: steve http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6344 steve Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:01:18 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/23/the-defection-of-pfc-white/#comment-6344 I already posted this at Marmot's hole: "I was in the ROK in 1982 and in the Army. As I recall it was classic case of the a soldier told he couldn’t see his ‘yobo’ (not used in the Korean sense, with the GIs it was a kept woman). He was shacked up with a girl from one of the clubs. Had trouble with his 1st SGT and had his pass pulled. I have seen many a fellow do really stupid things when facing separation from their girl friend. The dating a north korean agent sounds like urban myth stuff." I'm sure you, GI Korea, have seen lots of this too. A common, while sad, tale of a young soldier who messes his life up because of the ville. I already posted this at Marmot’s hole:

“I was in the ROK in 1982 and in the Army. As I recall it was classic case of the a soldier told he couldn’t see his ‘yobo’ (not used in the Korean sense, with the GIs it was a kept woman).

He was shacked up with a girl from one of the clubs. Had trouble with his 1st SGT and had his pass pulled.

I have seen many a fellow do really stupid things when facing separation from their girl friend.

The dating a north korean agent sounds like urban myth stuff.”

I’m sure you, GI Korea, have seen lots of this too. A common, while sad, tale of a young soldier who messes his life up because of the ville.

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