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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CalmSeas</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/07/new-marriage-policy-implemented-by-usfk/#comment-190626</link>
		<dc:creator>CalmSeas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Maybe the solution is to ban marriages to women in country with “entertainer” visas. That would weed out most of the prostitutes."

Ban them at ALL countries with U.S. military presence!

These girls come to other countries where ther are large numbers of U.S. Military selling their wares, then start crying rape, etc.???

The hell with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe the solution is to ban marriages to women in country with “entertainer” visas. That would weed out most of the prostitutes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ban them at ALL countries with U.S. military presence!</p>
<p>These girls come to other countries where ther are large numbers of U.S. Military selling their wares, then start crying rape, etc.???</p>
<p>The hell with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/07/new-marriage-policy-implemented-by-usfk/#comment-190266</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don´t have an answer, prostitution has been around forever. For years I´ve been wondering now, can you blame the "juicies" for trying? 

I blame the men, as long as there is a "market" there´ll be prostitutes. And maybe, if these honorable men, leaders of young soldiers would start thinking with their heads..........there wouldn´t be problem. Who wants to be "loved" for giving someone a better life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don´t have an answer, prostitution has been around forever. For years I´ve been wondering now, can you blame the &#8220;juicies&#8221; for trying? </p>
<p>I blame the men, as long as there is a &#8220;market&#8221; there´ll be prostitutes. And maybe, if these honorable men, leaders of young soldiers would start thinking with their heads&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.there wouldn´t be problem. Who wants to be &#8220;loved&#8221; for giving someone a better life?</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/07/new-marriage-policy-implemented-by-usfk/#comment-190174</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey,
I read your previous post and I was actually referring to your situation when I mentioned a wife and kids sitting in Germany. 

I don't understand how someone can misconstrue my comments to be about all foreign wives when I clearly state they are about prostitutes. 

I just think that if the marriages were disallowed, the Juicies would go away on their own because the gravy train would be gone.

Maybe the solution is to ban marriages to women in country with "entertainer" visas. That would weed out most of the prostitutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey,<br />
I read your previous post and I was actually referring to your situation when I mentioned a wife and kids sitting in Germany. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how someone can misconstrue my comments to be about all foreign wives when I clearly state they are about prostitutes. </p>
<p>I just think that if the marriages were disallowed, the Juicies would go away on their own because the gravy train would be gone.</p>
<p>Maybe the solution is to ban marriages to women in country with &#8220;entertainer&#8221; visas. That would weed out most of the prostitutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/07/new-marriage-policy-implemented-by-usfk/#comment-189925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April,

since I am a german wife and was left for a "juicy" I want to assure you, that I was never offended by what you wrote. I was, just like you explained, a local girl dancing at a local bar, when my husband and I met 22 yrs. ago. 

If anyone EVER compared me to a juicy, he´d be asking for some serious trouble!!! I never wanted to an american passport, never wanted a green card, fact is, I let it expire, even tho I could have gotten a renewal. 

My children and I are in Germany, were we belong and were we always wanted to be, just waiting for the divorce now to once and for all close the "juicy" chapter.

Oh, and guess what............he´s not with the juicy anymore, she was getting too greedy ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April,</p>
<p>since I am a german wife and was left for a &#8220;juicy&#8221; I want to assure you, that I was never offended by what you wrote. I was, just like you explained, a local girl dancing at a local bar, when my husband and I met 22 yrs. ago. </p>
<p>If anyone EVER compared me to a juicy, he´d be asking for some serious trouble!!! I never wanted to an american passport, never wanted a green card, fact is, I let it expire, even tho I could have gotten a renewal. </p>
<p>My children and I are in Germany, were we belong and were we always wanted to be, just waiting for the divorce now to once and for all close the &#8220;juicy&#8221; chapter.</p>
<p>Oh, and guess what&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;he´s not with the juicy anymore, she was getting too greedy <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalain: "I do agree that the juicey stuff turns my guts because a lot of young troops are suckered into it, but it’s been around since the first Marines hit Shanghai. The routine is as old as Moses. The difference is in the past, the older troops would try to intervene to knock some sense into the young troops under their care. It may not have been pretty — and downright brutal at times when you rip a man’s heart out and stomp on it — but it was necessary. "

THIS IS WHAT I AM REFERRING TO. ALL I am talking about is the Juicies/prostitutes. 


You are taking your anger at what others have said out on me. Everyone is judgemental. The only difference is if you use good judgement or bad. Example: Marrying a nice local girl you met anywhere other than a juicy bar or whore house=Good judgement. Marrying a Juicy or other prostitute=bad judgement. 

So, you CANNOT substitute what *I* am saying about prostitutes for what you have heard others say about non-American wives. Feeling this way about soldiers marrying prostitutes is not racist. 

Oh, and I live OFF post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalain: &#8220;I do agree that the juicey stuff turns my guts because a lot of young troops are suckered into it, but it’s been around since the first Marines hit Shanghai. The routine is as old as Moses. The difference is in the past, the older troops would try to intervene to knock some sense into the young troops under their care. It may not have been pretty — and downright brutal at times when you rip a man’s heart out and stomp on it — but it was necessary. &#8221;</p>
<p>THIS IS WHAT I AM REFERRING TO. ALL I am talking about is the Juicies/prostitutes. </p>
<p>You are taking your anger at what others have said out on me. Everyone is judgemental. The only difference is if you use good judgement or bad. Example: Marrying a nice local girl you met anywhere other than a juicy bar or whore house=Good judgement. Marrying a Juicy or other prostitute=bad judgement. </p>
<p>So, you CANNOT substitute what *I* am saying about prostitutes for what you have heard others say about non-American wives. Feeling this way about soldiers marrying prostitutes is not racist. </p>
<p>Oh, and I live OFF post.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalani
First, I never said, "Some of my best friends are..." Never said that. 

Second, I did not lump all women together. YOU are doing that. Marrying a foreigner and marrying a prostitute ARE NOT the same. 

I am not spilling HATE or RACISM. I am speaking common sense. 

My "supposed caveats"? Wrong. There are foreign women. There are prostitutes. TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

YOU are lumping all foreign women together. There is a HUGE difference between a soldier marrying a foreigner and marrying a prostitute. 

And A WHORE IS NOT ONE OF OUR OWN. She should do her own immigration. 

You call me racist yet YOU are the one who is lumping all women together. The problem isn't with whether soldiers are marrying a German, Japanese, Korean, WOMAN. I am talking about whores (a literal whore, look it up in the dictionary). Was your "good friend" a prostitute when she married  her young airman? 

You are lumping my COMMON SENSE with whatever hate speak you have heard in the past. Read what I actually said. Respond to what I actually said. Not to what you have heard other people say. 

You must be one of the old guys who frequents the brothels. Otherwise you should have no objection to what I am saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalani<br />
First, I never said, &#8220;Some of my best friends are&#8230;&#8221; Never said that. </p>
<p>Second, I did not lump all women together. YOU are doing that. Marrying a foreigner and marrying a prostitute ARE NOT the same. </p>
<p>I am not spilling HATE or RACISM. I am speaking common sense. </p>
<p>My &#8220;supposed caveats&#8221;? Wrong. There are foreign women. There are prostitutes. TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.</p>
<p>YOU are lumping all foreign women together. There is a HUGE difference between a soldier marrying a foreigner and marrying a prostitute. </p>
<p>And A WHORE IS NOT ONE OF OUR OWN. She should do her own immigration. </p>
<p>You call me racist yet YOU are the one who is lumping all women together. The problem isn&#8217;t with whether soldiers are marrying a German, Japanese, Korean, WOMAN. I am talking about whores (a literal whore, look it up in the dictionary). Was your &#8220;good friend&#8221; a prostitute when she married  her young airman? </p>
<p>You are lumping my COMMON SENSE with whatever hate speak you have heard in the past. Read what I actually said. Respond to what I actually said. Not to what you have heard other people say. </p>
<p>You must be one of the old guys who frequents the brothels. Otherwise you should have no objection to what I am saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April,

Do you really believe what you're saying is so damn new?  Read some history.  After WWII, substitute the "Japanese war brides" and "German warbride" for your "prostitute" hate spiel.  After the Korean War, substitute the "Korean war brides" for your "prostitute" crap.  After Vietnam, substitute the "Vietnamese war brides" and "Thai brides" and "Filipina Balibago/Subic brdes" for your "prostitute" diatribes. 

I've lived in Asia most of my life and I've listened to your sort of stuff in family housing everywhere.  In saying this, I'm saying that there are two types of wives -- those that are non-judgmental and those that are.  Ask any retired GI who has been married to a foreigner for many years, how many times they have had to grit their teeth to not cause a scene at polite gatherings -- and simply left to stop from making a scene.       

The tip-off is when the judgmental types start off their statements with "some of my best friends are black/white/green/purple/Korean/Filipina/etc" -- and then proceed into the same crap as you. 

You cannot seem to understand that your attitude lumps all the women into one big barrel -- despite all your protestations to the opposite.  A longtime former friend and former co-teacher married a young airman years ago over the protests of her parents.  He's now a Chief getting ready to retire with some outstanding kids.  Your statements -- despite your supposed caveats -- lump her into your crud about "whores." 

Whenever, I used to be exposed to people like you, I would head for the doors to keep from saying something I would regret.  Unfortunately, I also had to live next door to many people with the same attitudes as you.  It wasn't comfortable. Given a choice, I moved off-base and allowed those with your attitudes stay in the protected enclaves of the base. 

For this reason, this is the LAST comment I will have with you on this.  Call me whatever you want, but I have listened to the same type of hate garbage you are spilling in this blog all my life -- in the US and overseas. 

I do agree that the juicey stuff turns my guts because a lot of young troops are suckered into it, but it's been around since the first Marines hit Shanghai.  The routine is as old as Moses.  The difference is in the past, the older troops would try to intervene to knock some sense into the young troops under their care.  It may not have been pretty -- and downright brutal at times when you rip a man's heart out and stomp on it -- but it was necessary.  

I've been out for a long time so I can't say what the troops do now to protect their juniors -- but I think there are now so many politically-correct regulations that can come into effect that can ruin a man's career with a charge of racism/sexism/etc. that most just do there best, but move on.      

...And this new policy is not new.  It has been instituted, retracted, and reinstituted over and over.  It is a good policy -- just to give the young pup some time to think things out.  There is a great difference between being in love and in lust.  The young man away from home finds it easy to fall into the latter.  If it is love, it will survive the questioning of superiors -- but it also provides a cooling off period  -- even if it is getting the approval of a battalion commander. 

As for paying for the services of passport and paperwork, THAT'S WHAT THE SERVICE IS ABOUT.  THE MILITARY TAKES CARE OF ITS OWN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April,</p>
<p>Do you really believe what you&#8217;re saying is so damn new?  Read some history.  After WWII, substitute the &#8220;Japanese war brides&#8221; and &#8220;German warbride&#8221; for your &#8220;prostitute&#8221; hate spiel.  After the Korean War, substitute the &#8220;Korean war brides&#8221; for your &#8220;prostitute&#8221; crap.  After Vietnam, substitute the &#8220;Vietnamese war brides&#8221; and &#8220;Thai brides&#8221; and &#8220;Filipina Balibago/Subic brdes&#8221; for your &#8220;prostitute&#8221; diatribes. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lived in Asia most of my life and I&#8217;ve listened to your sort of stuff in family housing everywhere.  In saying this, I&#8217;m saying that there are two types of wives &#8212; those that are non-judgmental and those that are.  Ask any retired GI who has been married to a foreigner for many years, how many times they have had to grit their teeth to not cause a scene at polite gatherings &#8212; and simply left to stop from making a scene.       </p>
<p>The tip-off is when the judgmental types start off their statements with &#8220;some of my best friends are black/white/green/purple/Korean/Filipina/etc&#8221; &#8212; and then proceed into the same crap as you. </p>
<p>You cannot seem to understand that your attitude lumps all the women into one big barrel &#8212; despite all your protestations to the opposite.  A longtime former friend and former co-teacher married a young airman years ago over the protests of her parents.  He&#8217;s now a Chief getting ready to retire with some outstanding kids.  Your statements &#8212; despite your supposed caveats &#8212; lump her into your crud about &#8220;whores.&#8221; </p>
<p>Whenever, I used to be exposed to people like you, I would head for the doors to keep from saying something I would regret.  Unfortunately, I also had to live next door to many people with the same attitudes as you.  It wasn&#8217;t comfortable. Given a choice, I moved off-base and allowed those with your attitudes stay in the protected enclaves of the base. </p>
<p>For this reason, this is the LAST comment I will have with you on this.  Call me whatever you want, but I have listened to the same type of hate garbage you are spilling in this blog all my life &#8212; in the US and overseas. </p>
<p>I do agree that the juicey stuff turns my guts because a lot of young troops are suckered into it, but it&#8217;s been around since the first Marines hit Shanghai.  The routine is as old as Moses.  The difference is in the past, the older troops would try to intervene to knock some sense into the young troops under their care.  It may not have been pretty &#8212; and downright brutal at times when you rip a man&#8217;s heart out and stomp on it &#8212; but it was necessary.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been out for a long time so I can&#8217;t say what the troops do now to protect their juniors &#8212; but I think there are now so many politically-correct regulations that can come into effect that can ruin a man&#8217;s career with a charge of racism/sexism/etc. that most just do there best, but move on.      </p>
<p>&#8230;And this new policy is not new.  It has been instituted, retracted, and reinstituted over and over.  It is a good policy &#8212; just to give the young pup some time to think things out.  There is a great difference between being in love and in lust.  The young man away from home finds it easy to fall into the latter.  If it is love, it will survive the questioning of superiors &#8212; but it also provides a cooling off period  &#8212; even if it is getting the approval of a battalion commander. </p>
<p>As for paying for the services of passport and paperwork, THAT&#8217;S WHAT THE SERVICE IS ABOUT.  THE MILITARY TAKES CARE OF ITS OWN.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalani: "@53 — April, whoa girl. You sound like the haoles in Hawaii back in the 1950s when referring to the military marriages to the local girls. Damn them Hawaiian whores!!! YIPES… You have a lot of bitterness going there."

Did you even READ my posts? I am NOT talking about local girls. I am talking about imported prostitutes from the Phillipines and Russia. All of the non-American girls in Korea are NOT prostitutes-is that what you are trying to imply?

And I am NOT bitter. I am happily married and my husband is just as disgusted with the Juicy marriages as I am. I AM angry about them. They are a drain on the military here and the US tax payer. Due to the marriage to the whores (literal whores, not the insult), for a while all marriages to foreigners, or at least "third country nationals" should not be allowed to take place while here. The woman should have to pay her own way to the states and do her own paperwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalani: &#8220;@53 — April, whoa girl. You sound like the haoles in Hawaii back in the 1950s when referring to the military marriages to the local girls. Damn them Hawaiian whores!!! YIPES… You have a lot of bitterness going there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you even READ my posts? I am NOT talking about local girls. I am talking about imported prostitutes from the Phillipines and Russia. All of the non-American girls in Korea are NOT prostitutes-is that what you are trying to imply?</p>
<p>And I am NOT bitter. I am happily married and my husband is just as disgusted with the Juicy marriages as I am. I AM angry about them. They are a drain on the military here and the US tax payer. Due to the marriage to the whores (literal whores, not the insult), for a while all marriages to foreigners, or at least &#8220;third country nationals&#8221; should not be allowed to take place while here. The woman should have to pay her own way to the states and do her own paperwork.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@52 -- Villian, Hey..."60 year plus retirees shopping with their daughters." I are one -- and that is my daughter.  But -- wink -- I know what you mean...

@53 -- April, whoa girl.  You sound like the haoles in Hawaii back in the 1950s when referring to the military marriages to the local girls. Damn them Hawaiian whores!!! YIPES... You have a lot of bitterness going there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@52 &#8212; Villian, Hey&#8230;&#8221;60 year plus retirees shopping with their daughters.&#8221; I are one &#8212; and that is my daughter.  But &#8212; wink &#8212; I know what you mean&#8230;</p>
<p>@53 &#8212; April, whoa girl.  You sound like the haoles in Hawaii back in the 1950s when referring to the military marriages to the local girls. Damn them Hawaiian whores!!! YIPES&#8230; You have a lot of bitterness going there.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should not be sanctioned by USFK. The men should have to do all the work if they want their whores in the US. American tax dollars (through ACS) should not help these prostitutes get their visas and should not help with the paperwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should not be sanctioned by USFK. The men should have to do all the work if they want their whores in the US. American tax dollars (through ACS) should not help these prostitutes get their visas and should not help with the paperwork.</p>
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