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	<title>Comments on: AAFES Skunky Beer Scandal Uncovered</title>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/26/aafes-skunky-beer-scandal-uncovered/#comment-84736</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tulay,

I watched first-hand how the military board in charge of putting clubs off-limits profited from not putting CERTAIN clubs off-limits.  

I'm going to go waaaay out on a limb here and say that maybe, just maybe, there is some shady business going on with the military leadership in charge of keeping an eye on AAFES... and housing... and contracting... or anyplace else where big money is involved.

I bet some of the big-wigs at AAFES might even be involved.  DOH!  Never mind.  We already saw that scandal a few months back... which quickly and quietly went faaaar away.

So... either everybody on this board is a complete retard... which is actually possible.  Or, everyone would rather pretend nothing is happening... or blame only Koreans as if they could get by with the same scams on their own time after time, year after year.  

Every time this comes up, most of the military folks who dare comment on it talk waaaaay around direct statements that might indicate there is any involvement, or even blame, on USFK leadership for this... despite that organized, large-scale black marketing really CAN'T be happening without them knowing all about it...

...'cause if it is, it brings up a lot of other questions.

Like... what happened to all the money and manpower used to secure the entire base/post?  And if they can't seem to notice Koreans moving large quantities of goods around, how are they going to notice the North Korean in the chow hall with the vial of dimethylmercury?  Or the Central Asian Islamic fundamentalist of Korean origin moving a regular shipment of ox tails with the addition of a great, big, scary AN/FO packed with ball bearings, frozen cow bones and a lump of radioactive strontium from a long-forgotten Soviet lighthouse RTG.

Of course, they couldn't keep track of a Rack o' Nukes recently.  Hmmm... maybe they ARE all clueless.

Gotta think more about this one.

J!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tulay,</p>
<p>I watched first-hand how the military board in charge of putting clubs off-limits profited from not putting CERTAIN clubs off-limits.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to go waaaay out on a limb here and say that maybe, just maybe, there is some shady business going on with the military leadership in charge of keeping an eye on AAFES&#8230; and housing&#8230; and contracting&#8230; or anyplace else where big money is involved.</p>
<p>I bet some of the big-wigs at AAFES might even be involved.  DOH!  Never mind.  We already saw that scandal a few months back&#8230; which quickly and quietly went faaaar away.</p>
<p>So&#8230; either everybody on this board is a complete retard&#8230; which is actually possible.  Or, everyone would rather pretend nothing is happening&#8230; or blame only Koreans as if they could get by with the same scams on their own time after time, year after year.  </p>
<p>Every time this comes up, most of the military folks who dare comment on it talk waaaaay around direct statements that might indicate there is any involvement, or even blame, on USFK leadership for this&#8230; despite that organized, large-scale black marketing really CAN&#8217;T be happening without them knowing all about it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8217;cause if it is, it brings up a lot of other questions.</p>
<p>Like&#8230; what happened to all the money and manpower used to secure the entire base/post?  And if they can&#8217;t seem to notice Koreans moving large quantities of goods around, how are they going to notice the North Korean in the chow hall with the vial of dimethylmercury?  Or the Central Asian Islamic fundamentalist of Korean origin moving a regular shipment of ox tails with the addition of a great, big, scary AN/FO packed with ball bearings, frozen cow bones and a lump of radioactive strontium from a long-forgotten Soviet lighthouse RTG.</p>
<p>Of course, they couldn&#8217;t keep track of a Rack o&#8217; Nukes recently.  Hmmm&#8230; maybe they ARE all clueless.</p>
<p>Gotta think more about this one.</p>
<p>J!</p>
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		<title>By: Tulay</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/26/aafes-skunky-beer-scandal-uncovered/#comment-84651</link>
		<dc:creator>Tulay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, it's the greed of Koreans that is blackmarketing the goods, not AAFES condoning the act of it.  Plus, with the SOFA agreement and the personnel policies in place, why does the appeals board continue to bring back the employees back to work when AAFES terminates their employement for blackmarketing?  The military will run commercials on blackmarketing, yet the appeals board (made up of a Chairperson, who is a military commander) continue to state that it is only "accusations" and no "evidence"...What?  Why won't they take the final report of a CID report when it states so?

I think everyone needs to understand the process and stop making "assumptions" when the military leadership is actually the ones condoning this act!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, it&#8217;s the greed of Koreans that is blackmarketing the goods, not AAFES condoning the act of it.  Plus, with the SOFA agreement and the personnel policies in place, why does the appeals board continue to bring back the employees back to work when AAFES terminates their employement for blackmarketing?  The military will run commercials on blackmarketing, yet the appeals board (made up of a Chairperson, who is a military commander) continue to state that it is only &#8220;accusations&#8221; and no &#8220;evidence&#8221;&#8230;What?  Why won&#8217;t they take the final report of a CID report when it states so?</p>
<p>I think everyone needs to understand the process and stop making &#8220;assumptions&#8221; when the military leadership is actually the ones condoning this act!</p>
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		<title>By: aafes</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/26/aafes-skunky-beer-scandal-uncovered/#comment-84649</link>
		<dc:creator>aafes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/26/aafes-skunky-beer-scandal-uncovered/#comment-18023</link>
		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though he can buy as much baby formula as needed it doesn't mean he can sell it on the blackmarket.  Anything from the PX/commissary cannot be sold on the blackmarket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though he can buy as much baby formula as needed it doesn&#8217;t mean he can sell it on the blackmarket.  Anything from the PX/commissary cannot be sold on the blackmarket.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I seen to recall the ration control policy was worded such that buying anything (even unrationed and/or uncontrolled) and selling it on the blackmarket was a violation of Army regulations. There were overall spending limits based on your status (unaccompanied or accompanied)and triggers in the system that would flag you if you were buying lots and lots of any item.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I seen to recall the ration control policy was worded such that buying anything (even unrationed and/or uncontrolled) and selling it on the blackmarket was a violation of Army regulations. There were overall spending limits based on your status (unaccompanied or accompanied)and triggers in the system that would flag you if you were buying lots and lots of any item.</p>
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		<title>By: augmento</title>
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		<dc:creator>augmento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think baby formula is rationed. I buy a lot of it and nobody at commissary or ration control has ever mentioned anything. Then again, I do have an infant son so maybe just maybe they figure my purchases are legit which they are but its not like where everytime my wife buys her cosmetic stuff and we have to sign 3 or 4 slips of paper for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think baby formula is rationed. I buy a lot of it and nobody at commissary or ration control has ever mentioned anything. Then again, I do have an infant son so maybe just maybe they figure my purchases are legit which they are but its not like where everytime my wife buys her cosmetic stuff and we have to sign 3 or 4 slips of paper for them.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/26/aafes-skunky-beer-scandal-uncovered/#comment-17494</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am shocked! Shocked I tell you to learn that stale beer was sold on the blackmarket. Back in my day it would have been the fresh beer that went off base (with the old beer left for the soldiers on base).

I'm sad to see that the quality of blackemarketer has fallen so low.

Joking aside, I am surprised to read that ox tail, spam, and baby formula are still a hot items. Those were popular on the blackmarket too 20 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked! Shocked I tell you to learn that stale beer was sold on the blackmarket. Back in my day it would have been the fresh beer that went off base (with the old beer left for the soldiers on base).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sad to see that the quality of blackemarketer has fallen so low.</p>
<p>Joking aside, I am surprised to read that ox tail, spam, and baby formula are still a hot items. Those were popular on the blackmarket too 20 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/03/26/aafes-skunky-beer-scandal-uncovered/#comment-16984</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't worry, Leon.

There is a trail of documents showing exactly when and how OSI and CID have been informed of those AAFES trucks.

Their answer of, "We are aware of it and we are looking into it," has also been recorded... for several years.

Senior leadership is aware of what is going on and some members may profit from it.

Some day, something may come of it.

J!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Leon.</p>
<p>There is a trail of documents showing exactly when and how OSI and CID have been informed of those AAFES trucks.</p>
<p>Their answer of, &#8220;We are aware of it and we are looking into it,&#8221; has also been recorded&#8230; for several years.</p>
<p>Senior leadership is aware of what is going on and some members may profit from it.</p>
<p>Some day, something may come of it.</p>
<p>J!</p>
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		<title>By: Leon LaPorte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon LaPorte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever noticed AAFES cannot track millions of dollars worth of inventory and sales over the course of years. ...While we are missing the short green light to get off post while every taxi has to stop so someone can look in the trunk.

Meanwhile, you dimwits, EVERYONE in Korea knows that the path to the black market is packed with big trucks with AAFES painted on the side.

There is no way the black market could be stocked with the quantity of goods it consumes by:

1. Sneaking stuff off post in the back of taxis.
2. Can you say backpack?
3. Even the biggest ox tail buying, cart full of spam and baby formula pushing race tracking ajima brigade could even come close to making a dent.

Wake up you buffoons. Stop Harassing E-4's, dependents and contractors. Stop with the BS taxi trunk inspections (or at least do it so it does not impede traffic) and go after the REAL CRIMINALS. That is if you are serious about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever noticed AAFES cannot track millions of dollars worth of inventory and sales over the course of years. &#8230;While we are missing the short green light to get off post while every taxi has to stop so someone can look in the trunk.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, you dimwits, EVERYONE in Korea knows that the path to the black market is packed with big trucks with AAFES painted on the side.</p>
<p>There is no way the black market could be stocked with the quantity of goods it consumes by:</p>
<p>1. Sneaking stuff off post in the back of taxis.<br />
2. Can you say backpack?<br />
3. Even the biggest ox tail buying, cart full of spam and baby formula pushing race tracking ajima brigade could even come close to making a dent.</p>
<p>Wake up you buffoons. Stop Harassing E-4&#8217;s, dependents and contractors. Stop with the BS taxi trunk inspections (or at least do it so it does not impede traffic) and go after the REAL CRIMINALS. That is if you are serious about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you ever notice how the Korean media won't give you the full name of the any Korean criminals it arrests but will fully enblazen a foreigners name over every media outlet they can find?  I understand this is cultural but it still burns my butt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever notice how the Korean media won&#8217;t give you the full name of the any Korean criminals it arrests but will fully enblazen a foreigners name over every media outlet they can find?  I understand this is cultural but it still burns my butt.</p>
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