I will start with 1950 and follow the days from there – so in June I’ll be getting to this period.

It will be interesting to compare what is reported then with what is “discovered” today in the “secret” “declassified” documents…

We have a struggle with that today in contemporary cases, but this is also trying to apply today’s standards to events of 50 years ago.

It is also, like already mentioned, taking events from 50 years ago, and cutting out parts that might mitigate a sense of criminality – for example – discussion of the well-known tactic of the North Koreans dressing soldiers up in civilian attire and mixing them in with refugee flows.

Basically, I’ll describe it like this — give it another 25 years or so, and the AP will be able to do the same thing with the Blackhawk Down event in Somolia…

Today, it is too fresh, and if they tried to gain massive attention by claiming the event was a perfect case of a major war crime, as they are doing with these events of the Korean War, too many people would attack them. Too many people would bring up the kinds of arguments we are. Too many people would remember and point out how the Somolia gunmen were well-reported to have forced crowds of civilians to walk ahead of them at gunpoint as human shields.

But, like with the Korean War stuff today, 25 years from now, people won’t remember enough or care enough about the events in Somolia to prevent the AP from gaining another Pulitzer by “uncovering” the wanton murder of people in Somolia in the early 1990s..

Much like with the No Gun-ri tragedy no critic is saying it didn’t happen or trying to marginalize it. Critics like myself question the number of dead and the motivations and context about what happened.

As shown with the prior AP No Gun-ri reporting they cannot be trusted to provide the actual context of what happened. They took a tragedy and sensationlized it for headlines despite all the evidence disputing their claims.

With this tragedy maybe you can help us provide further context of what happened. I see you are the administrator for the USS DeHaven website. I don’t know if you were on the ship during the war or not, but in your opinion could 15 rounds from 5 inch guns firing off the beach into the water over 11 minutes kill 200 people that would undoubtedly being running away from the beach the minute the first round hit the water.

I am an Army guy and judging from my artillery experience I don’t think 15 rounds fired from 155mm artillery piece over 11 minutes into the water could kill that many people much less from a smaller 5 inch gun like what the DeHaven had. I would appreciate any information or thoughts you could add to the discussion. Thank you.

it was ignored too..

http://www.walkblackforest.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/kimandparis.jpg

I’m glad some people are taking the time to combat stuff like this, because I am too pessimistic about it, because I know profs in the US and the media will be the main propegators of the bullshit and fighting it is likely a lost cause, but with the internet generations now out in the world, people do surf for more and more information, so it is good some are taking the time to write detailed responses. Thanks…

I said back when the Nogunri case broke that there were plenty of events like this to dig up – that if this was how they were going to interpret it, they could have a field day winning Pultizer after Pulitzer rewriting history – and claiming it was “news” that they “uncovered”.

This stuff was written about at the time and in official history books immediatately afterward. There was even debate about it. I can remember reading about articles from a journalist(s) others dismissed as a socialist or communist who played up North Korean claims of US and SK atrocities and denied claims against NK atrocities…

But, readers back when the war was fresh were given the full context.

They were also told about friendly fire incidents —- which don’t seem to make it into the minds of AP reporters (or profs and others).

For example, what you read in this article about the beach could easily be written for incidents all over the field of combat at times when US and South Korean troops blew each other up.

If you read about US war planes straving columns of US soldiers or SK soldiers or the US Navy ships lobbing shells into US Army units on land or Ameican soldiers opening fire on American soldiers….

….then read an article like this about South Korean civilians killed in such a manner…

it kinda calls into question the interpretation reporters use to get Pulitzers…., no?