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		<title>By: The final cut</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/04/24/a-question-for-korean-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-45560</link>
		<dc:creator>The final cut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 05:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] is surely no less severe. I can only hope there will never be another tragedy like this one. A Question for Korean-AmericansIs what Kim Dae-joong claiming, that your childhood was ruined by coming to America, true?: The [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] is surely no less severe. I can only hope there will never be another tragedy like this one. A Question for Korean-AmericansIs what Kim Dae-joong claiming, that your childhood was ruined by coming to America, true?: The [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Chances for an Inter-Korea Summit at DPRK Studies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chances for an Inter-Korea Summit at DPRK Studies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] groveling to Kim Jong-il for an inter-Korea summit before his term is up. Kim Dae-joong has been a bit flakey in the recent past, but this opinion piece is good.  &#160;(0)   &#187;&#160; I just realized that 30 May 2007 was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] groveling to Kim Jong-il for an inter-Korea summit before his term is up. Kim Dae-joong has been a bit flakey in the recent past, but this opinion piece is good.  &nbsp;(0)   &raquo;&nbsp; I just realized that 30 May 2007 was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hail Mary Jesus. Even this (what clearly is meant to be a criticism against parents of those young Korean Americans) is classified as Anti American. Why don&#039;t you take your own advices that you give to Koreans everyday and loosen up a little. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hail Mary Jesus. Even this (what clearly is meant to be a criticism against parents of those young Korean Americans) is classified as Anti American. Why don&#039;t you take your own advices that you give to Koreans everyday and loosen up a little. </p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that Kim Dae-joong is definitely all over the place.  He is pro-alliance but seems like he has to write some anti-US stuff every once in a while so people can&#039;t accuse him of being a pro-US lackey. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that Kim Dae-joong is definitely all over the place.  He is pro-alliance but seems like he has to write some anti-US stuff every once in a while so people can&#039;t accuse him of being a pro-US lackey. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link GI Korea. Kim is a really erratic writer, sometimes making good points but also pulling stuff out of his ass like in this column. Notice he has no proof for his claims--he&#039;s just being opportunistic about the shooting tragedy and blaming the U.S. for Koreans&#039; problems, which I guess is part of Korean genetics or something. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link GI Korea. Kim is a really erratic writer, sometimes making good points but also pulling stuff out of his ass like in this column. Notice he has no proof for his claims&#8211;he&#039;s just being opportunistic about the shooting tragedy and blaming the U.S. for Koreans&#039; problems, which I guess is part of Korean genetics or something. </p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is one guy.  I believe Oranckay knows about him.  I have a vague memory from a few years ago when Kim was talked about on the K-blogs and Oranckay gave a brief outline of him. 
 
Anyway, if you look at him as a strong (South) Korean patriot, I think what can appear wishy-washy or contradictory make sense.  Kim has always shown a very stong committment to the US-SK alliance, and has used things like &quot;blood ties&quot; to defend it, because he sees it as protecting Korea, but, his strong tie is to the protection, not the two nations as a partnership.  He has shown frequently enough that if the US were not defending Korea, he&#039;d be more than happy to kick Uncle Sam in the balls just as hard as a left-leaning Korean patriot. 
 
He wrote an editorial for the 2nd anniversary of the 9/11 attacks that I&#039;d still like to kick him in the balls for. 
 
I can remember him writing a nationalistic-based post on how the US is anti-Korean using references to movies like Falling Down. 
 
This article from him today is not outside his norm. 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt; lived lives without pride or community consciousness&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
 
And that is the key to it. 
 
By &quot;ruined&quot; he actually means &quot;Americanized.&quot;  It isn&#039;t their actual community consciousness he sees as missing, but their awareness of the Korean community and pride in it. 
 
Just as Kim sees the value of the US relationship in narrowly defined terms of protecting the South from the North (and perhaps China), he describes the reason for coming to the US in narrow terms - education - not for American cultural values and whatnot. 
 
And ending up on the wrong side of the tracks doesn&#039;t just mean turning to criminals, it means moving to far away from the culture of the motherland. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is one guy.  I believe Oranckay knows about him.  I have a vague memory from a few years ago when Kim was talked about on the K-blogs and Oranckay gave a brief outline of him.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you look at him as a strong (South) Korean patriot, I think what can appear wishy-washy or contradictory make sense.  Kim has always shown a very stong committment to the US-SK alliance, and has used things like &quot;blood ties&quot; to defend it, because he sees it as protecting Korea, but, his strong tie is to the protection, not the two nations as a partnership.  He has shown frequently enough that if the US were not defending Korea, he&#039;d be more than happy to kick Uncle Sam in the balls just as hard as a left-leaning Korean patriot.</p>
<p>He wrote an editorial for the 2nd anniversary of the 9/11 attacks that I&#039;d still like to kick him in the balls for.</p>
<p>I can remember him writing a nationalistic-based post on how the US is anti-Korean using references to movies like Falling Down.</p>
<p>This article from him today is not outside his norm.</p>
<blockquote><p> lived lives without pride or community consciousness</p></blockquote>
<p>And that is the key to it.</p>
<p>By &quot;ruined&quot; he actually means &quot;Americanized.&quot;  It isn&#039;t their actual community consciousness he sees as missing, but their awareness of the Korean community and pride in it.</p>
<p>Just as Kim sees the value of the US relationship in narrowly defined terms of protecting the South from the North (and perhaps China), he describes the reason for coming to the US in narrow terms &#8211; education &#8211; not for American cultural values and whatnot.</p>
<p>And ending up on the wrong side of the tracks doesn&#039;t just mean turning to criminals, it means moving to far away from the culture of the motherland. </p>
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		<title>By: GK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to comment on: 
 
 &quot; The children led their lives apart from their parents and roamed the streets.&quot; 
 
This suggests a failure on the part of the parents to change their parenting behaviour to suit a new environment.  
Firstly, kids in Korea are on the street in groups till all hours of the night, supposedly due to their &#039;educational needs.&#039; Not knowing exactly where their kids are seems to be the norm for many families in Korea. It is from these groups that most of the loud and rude &#039;miguk&#039; comments come. Even elementary school kids. This behaviour can/may provide a negative basis for future socialisation patterning. As an extension of this, without a doubt one of the (if not &#039;the&#039;) biggest issue Korean kids have with homestay parents when studying overseas is the problem of not coming home at a resonable hour. Not calling to say where they are or why they will be late. Just treating home as a filling station between social engagements. I have also seen, in Korea and overseas, many instances of parents leaving young to very young children at home alone or in the care of another minor. Sometimes for more than one day. I would suggest that the issue mentioned by KDJ is not one that is created by living abroard - but one that has followed from Korea. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to comment on:</p>
<p> &quot; The children led their lives apart from their parents and roamed the streets.&quot;</p>
<p>This suggests a failure on the part of the parents to change their parenting behaviour to suit a new environment. </p>
<p>Firstly, kids in Korea are on the street in groups till all hours of the night, supposedly due to their &#039;educational needs.&#039; Not knowing exactly where their kids are seems to be the norm for many families in Korea. It is from these groups that most of the loud and rude &#039;miguk&#039; comments come. Even elementary school kids. This behaviour can/may provide a negative basis for future socialisation patterning. As an extension of this, without a doubt one of the (if not &#039;the&#039;) biggest issue Korean kids have with homestay parents when studying overseas is the problem of not coming home at a resonable hour. Not calling to say where they are or why they will be late. Just treating home as a filling station between social engagements. I have also seen, in Korea and overseas, many instances of parents leaving young to very young children at home alone or in the care of another minor. Sometimes for more than one day. I would suggest that the issue mentioned by KDJ is not one that is created by living abroard &#8211; but one that has followed from Korea. </p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chosun Ilbo like other news and media organizations has a political agenda. The &quot;Kim Dae-joong&quot; alias is just their small (and I do mean small) way of selling it to the hordes of gullible people who don&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t know any better. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chosun Ilbo like other news and media organizations has a political agenda. The &quot;Kim Dae-joong&quot; alias is just their small (and I do mean small) way of selling it to the hordes of gullible people who don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t know any better. </p>
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		<title>By: Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m beginning to wonder if &quot;Kim Dae-joong&quot; isn&#039;t a moniker used by different authors at the Chosun Ilbo. Starting a few months ago, the analytical quality of his articles started to slip (aside from a strong nationalist element coming to the front). This is the latest example.  
 
How many is &quot;many&quot;? He could basically say anything without quantifying it. &quot;Many&quot; is meaningless in the way he uses it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m beginning to wonder if &quot;Kim Dae-joong&quot; isn&#039;t a moniker used by different authors at the Chosun Ilbo. Starting a few months ago, the analytical quality of his articles started to slip (aside from a strong nationalist element coming to the front). This is the latest example.  </p>
<p>How many is &quot;many&quot;? He could basically say anything without quantifying it. &quot;Many&quot; is meaningless in the way he uses it. </p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Yu, 
 
I was referring to all of the &quot;many Koreans who went to America&quot; that had their childrens lives &quot;ruined&quot; according to Kim Dae-joong.   
 
As CPT Kim pointed out many Korean-Americans including himself have been very successful. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Yu,</p>
<p>I was referring to all of the &quot;many Koreans who went to America&quot; that had their childrens lives &quot;ruined&quot; according to Kim Dae-joong.  </p>
<p>As CPT Kim pointed out many Korean-Americans including himself have been very successful. </p>
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