Comments on: Another Juicy Addict Convicted http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/ Korea From North to South Thu, 24 May 2012 23:26:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: SFC JUMBO http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-197359 SFC JUMBO Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:13:31 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-197359 I'm 28 and addicted to the nightlife with my juicy. I miss work often but shes worth it. Please help me decide should i stay with the flip or get wit the russian. I need help. I'm 28 and addicted to the nightlife with my juicy. I miss work often but shes worth it. Please help me decide should i stay with the flip or get wit the russian. I need help.

]]> By: SFC JUMBO http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-197358 SFC JUMBO Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:11:28 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-197358 I am a juicy addict. I am a juicy addict.

]]> By: USFK Forums http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-36363 USFK Forums Thu, 17 May 2007 16:59:50 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-36363 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] water between the two countries. At the group’s general meeting in Monaco on Thursday, [...] Another Juicy Addict Convicted This story should sound familiar: Military Judge Col. Gregory Gross sentenced Kevin Sowers to 18 [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] water between the two countries. At the group’s general meeting in Monaco on Thursday, [...] Another Juicy Addict Convicted This story should sound familiar: Military Judge Col. Gregory Gross sentenced Kevin Sowers to 18 [...]

]]> By: Lancelot Link http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-36129 Lancelot Link Thu, 17 May 2007 07:58:13 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-36129 I couldn't care any less about this POS. A military is a direct reflection of a countries society. This person brought with him into the army values from his upbringing that directly reflect his society. I have no respect for someone that is a thief or a liar. Sure his family suffers, but thats life. I couldn't care any less about this POS. A military is a direct reflection of a countries society. This person brought with him into the army values from his upbringing that directly reflect his society. I have no respect for someone that is a thief or a liar. Sure his family suffers, but thats life.

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-35968 GI Korea Wed, 16 May 2007 18:02:32 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-35968 Jeff, good catch I didn't realize I misphrased that and I stand corrected. I meant to say the families are the real victims and have corrected it, thanks. Jeff, good catch I didn't realize I misphrased that and I stand corrected. I meant to say the families are the real victims and have corrected it, thanks.

]]> By: Jeff in Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-35922 Jeff in Korea Wed, 16 May 2007 14:07:47 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-35922 I totally agree with much of what you said, but it is the last sentence that intrigues me. You wrote: "Read the whole thing and see how as always it is the victim’s immediate family that really suffers from these things." I'm just trying to clarify who you are referring to as the "victim." It seems from the context that you are referring to Sowers as the victim. If so, I have a lot to say about that. If you are referring to someone else as the victim, I probably have comments about that as well. I totally agree with much of what you said, but it is the last sentence that intrigues me. You wrote:

"Read the whole thing and see how as always it is the victim’s immediate family that really suffers from these things."

I'm just trying to clarify who you are referring to as the "victim." It seems from the context that you are referring to Sowers as the victim. If so, I have a lot to say about that. If you are referring to someone else as the victim, I probably have comments about that as well.

]]> By: Dan http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-35908 Dan Wed, 16 May 2007 13:08:35 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-35908 Sowers is a SYMPTOM of the vast leadership and PC failures that I became aware of around 1997. It was worse in 2002 till my retirement in 2005. I couldn't wait to leave what the army had become. I saw EO and PC cr-p in my last years that was unbelievable. From NCOs and Officers alike. Something should have happened to Sowers before it went that far. Something that would not have been PC perfect. Sowers a victim?! You must think me retarded. Sowers is a SYMPTOM of the vast leadership and PC failures that I became aware of around 1997. It was worse in 2002 till my retirement in 2005. I couldn't wait to leave what the army had become. I saw EO and PC cr-p in my last years that was unbelievable. From NCOs and Officers alike.

Something should have happened to Sowers before it went that far. Something that would not have been PC perfect.

Sowers a victim?! You must think me retarded.

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-35878 GI Korea Wed, 16 May 2007 11:11:35 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-35878 Jeff, I'm not sure who you are referring to but I have never said the guys that commit crimes are victims. They are prosecuted and sentenced just as they deserve to be. The real victims are the guys getting their stuff stolen and the families of these guys that get in trouble not to mention the major disruptions it brings to their units. I maintain that the ville culture is a partial reason why you see blotter report incidents occur. I have had Koreans tell me that GIs treat Korea like its a third world country and I always respond, well what do you expect when the ville right outside the gate is a third world country. Bringing up standards in the ville along with improving leadership apathy which I think is caused by the one year and go back home system in USFK is a way to improve overall conduct of the soldiers. The USFK crime rate is overall better per capita compared to the general Korean population but the steady trickle of high profile incidents is undermining the US-ROK alliance. Like I said before this may be a bridge to far now but the USFK relocation to Camp Humphreys is a chance to get a fresh start with the ville culture as well as instituting three year tours to improve continuity in leadership within the ranks as well as bringing families over. Jeff,

I'm not sure who you are referring to but I have never said the guys that commit crimes are victims. They are prosecuted and sentenced just as they deserve to be. The real victims are the guys getting their stuff stolen and the families of these guys that get in trouble not to mention the major disruptions it brings to their units.

I maintain that the ville culture is a partial reason why you see blotter report incidents occur. I have had Koreans tell me that GIs treat Korea like its a third world country and I always respond, well what do you expect when the ville right outside the gate is a third world country. Bringing up standards in the ville along with improving leadership apathy which I think is caused by the one year and go back home system in USFK is a way to improve overall conduct of the soldiers.

The USFK crime rate is overall better per capita compared to the general Korean population but the steady trickle of high profile incidents is undermining the US-ROK alliance. Like I said before this may be a bridge to far now but the USFK relocation to Camp Humphreys is a chance to get a fresh start with the ville culture as well as instituting three year tours to improve continuity in leadership within the ranks as well as bringing families over.

]]> By: Santi http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-35877 Santi Wed, 16 May 2007 11:03:32 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-35877 I know I'm going to get a lot of flak about this and I don't think its going to happen, but I think the Army/Government should legalize prostitution. If they brought it on base, provided a clean environment (both inside and out), and had AAFES or MWR control it so that money would be put back into the community, then sexual assault and this kind of behavior would be reduced. I cite Germany as an example for legalized prostitution. In Iraq, there were some female soldiers making money on the side, until they were busted which shows that they were willing. And just to be all Equal Opportunity...there should be a couple of juicy boys...for the ladies or *GASP* guys (there were man-on-man sexual assaults in the desert). I'm not saying it is right, but I just believe in moderation. If they're going to have a church on base, then the alternative should be provided. If they're going to show 7th Heaven on AFN, then they need to show porn after midnight, you know, to balance things out. I think I just made everyone who read this either puke from disgust or laughter or disgusting laughter. I know I'm going to get a lot of flak about this and I don't think its going to happen, but I think the Army/Government should legalize prostitution. If they brought it on base, provided a clean environment (both inside and out), and had AAFES or MWR control it so that money would be put back into the community, then sexual assault and this kind of behavior would be reduced.

I cite Germany as an example for legalized prostitution. In Iraq, there were some female soldiers making money on the side, until they were busted which shows that they were willing. And just to be all Equal Opportunity…there should be a couple of juicy boys…for the ladies or *GASP* guys (there were man-on-man sexual assaults in the desert).

I'm not saying it is right, but I just believe in moderation. If they're going to have a church on base, then the alternative should be provided. If they're going to show 7th Heaven on AFN, then they need to show porn after midnight, you know, to balance things out.

I think I just made everyone who read this either puke from disgust or laughter or disgusting laughter.

]]> By: Jeff in Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/comment-page-1/#comment-35859 Jeff in Korea Wed, 16 May 2007 10:00:15 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/05/14/another-juicy-addict-convicted/#comment-35859 Before I say anything, I want to be absolutely sure you are saying what I think you are saying. Are you saying that Sowers is a victim? If so, a victim of what? Before I say anything, I want to be absolutely sure you are saying what I think you are saying. Are you saying that Sowers is a victim? If so, a victim of what?

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