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		<title>By: Bones</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/07/17/i-was-in-love/#comment-190103</link>
		<dc:creator>Bones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact of the matter is the military cannot stop you from getting married. That's why Commanders and 1SG's don't put a stop to it. He/she will go thru the military or go the civilian route. If everything is straight and legal, IAW Army regs. he/she is your spouse. They get all the "Benefits"
the Army says they are allowed.

You'd be surprised at how things work out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact of the matter is the military cannot stop you from getting married. That&#8217;s why Commanders and 1SG&#8217;s don&#8217;t put a stop to it. He/she will go thru the military or go the civilian route. If everything is straight and legal, IAW Army regs. he/she is your spouse. They get all the &#8220;Benefits&#8221;<br />
the Army says they are allowed.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be surprised at how things work out.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZDave</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/07/17/i-was-in-love/#comment-189909</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read my last post and noticed that an edit I made for some unexplainable rreason didn't take. The confusing sentence in the 4th paragraph should read that guards... were on alert to keep (Houdini from leaving the camp but somehow Houdini would find a way out) and hook up with his girl despite every attempt to restrict him to camp. 

Sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read my last post and noticed that an edit I made for some unexplainable rreason didn&#8217;t take. The confusing sentence in the 4th paragraph should read that guards&#8230; were on alert to keep (Houdini from leaving the camp but somehow Houdini would find a way out) and hook up with his girl despite every attempt to restrict him to camp. </p>
<p>Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendandaughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendandaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DMZDave</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/07/17/i-was-in-love/#comment-189840</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with Tim that the only way to fix the problem is to remove the soldiers from Korea.  There are good reasons to keep troops in Korea, I just don't find them all that compelling given the other military challenges to budget. 

But I gotta tell you Tim, as to whether the CNN reporter ever enjoyed the culture, you're wrong on this one.  I knew the CNN reporter who covered Seoul in the late 80's and we are still good friends. I even had dinner with HER the other night  and although SHE enjoyed the culture , I don't think SHE ever "enjoyed" the "culture" so to speak. 

That said, I almost feel sorry for GI who is always trying to lift the level of discussion to policy issues and history and few respond but he tosses out something on prostitution and the "experts" all weigh in. 

OK, one good story related to the original post and what a GI will do for "love."  I had a GI in Sonyuri that we could not keep away from his juicy no matter what we did, how we restricted them and how guarded him.  We nicknamed him Houdini because he always found a way to disappear into thin air and get to the ville.  We had a serious fence around the compound that was actively patrolled and the guys on the gate had his picture and were on alert to keepand hook up with his girl despite every attempt to restrict him to camp.  "I can't help it" he'd tell the 1SG, "I gotta be with my girl."

Then early one morning someone spotted a head pop up out of a drain sewer grate. Out popped our very filthy Houdini.  He had literally been crawling each night out and each morning back through an 18 inch storm water drainage pipe, over 250 feet in length to the where it emptied into the creek  and then he would low crawl along the creek bed to juicy's place in the ville where she must have given him a quick bath because he would have smelled like crap - really. 

When we caught him and surveyed the amazing route he would have had to take, no one really wanted to hammer him because he was really a great soldier when you got him to the field and on some levels you have to admire a guy who is so "mission oriented."  And frankly, it really is guys like Houdini that made the Army fun - 250 feet though an 18" wide pipe, crawling on his belly without fear of snakes or rats all to get to his girl and get some.  Hooah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Tim that the only way to fix the problem is to remove the soldiers from Korea.  There are good reasons to keep troops in Korea, I just don&#8217;t find them all that compelling given the other military challenges to budget. </p>
<p>But I gotta tell you Tim, as to whether the CNN reporter ever enjoyed the culture, you&#8217;re wrong on this one.  I knew the CNN reporter who covered Seoul in the late 80&#8217;s and we are still good friends. I even had dinner with HER the other night  and although SHE enjoyed the culture , I don&#8217;t think SHE ever &#8220;enjoyed&#8221; the &#8220;culture&#8221; so to speak. </p>
<p>That said, I almost feel sorry for GI who is always trying to lift the level of discussion to policy issues and history and few respond but he tosses out something on prostitution and the &#8220;experts&#8221; all weigh in. </p>
<p>OK, one good story related to the original post and what a GI will do for &#8220;love.&#8221;  I had a GI in Sonyuri that we could not keep away from his juicy no matter what we did, how we restricted them and how guarded him.  We nicknamed him Houdini because he always found a way to disappear into thin air and get to the ville.  We had a serious fence around the compound that was actively patrolled and the guys on the gate had his picture and were on alert to keepand hook up with his girl despite every attempt to restrict him to camp.  &#8220;I can&#8217;t help it&#8221; he&#8217;d tell the 1SG, &#8220;I gotta be with my girl.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then early one morning someone spotted a head pop up out of a drain sewer grate. Out popped our very filthy Houdini.  He had literally been crawling each night out and each morning back through an 18 inch storm water drainage pipe, over 250 feet in length to the where it emptied into the creek  and then he would low crawl along the creek bed to juicy&#8217;s place in the ville where she must have given him a quick bath because he would have smelled like crap - really. </p>
<p>When we caught him and surveyed the amazing route he would have had to take, no one really wanted to hammer him because he was really a great soldier when you got him to the field and on some levels you have to admire a guy who is so &#8220;mission oriented.&#8221;  And frankly, it really is guys like Houdini that made the Army fun - 250 feet though an 18&#8243; wide pipe, crawling on his belly without fear of snakes or rats all to get to his girl and get some.  Hooah.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/07/17/i-was-in-love/#comment-189557</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think that prostitute is a "good" job for any woman. Neither is coal miner for any man. I would hope that due to my own blessed circumstances, my daughter would not have to become a prostitute, and my son -- if I had one -- would not have to become a coal miner. Were someone to kidnap my child to impress them into any sort of labor, I would hunt the kidnapper down and beat him to death.

If my daughter were to choose to be a prostitute, abandoning better choices, I would be heartbroken. Same would go for my son, if I had one and he were to head off to the coal mine.

However, if, God forbid, I were killed today and left my children penniless, or my children weren't all that smart, such that prostitution became the best option in her judgment, it seems evil for a society to deny a woman the right to earn a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that prostitute is a &#8220;good&#8221; job for any woman. Neither is coal miner for any man. I would hope that due to my own blessed circumstances, my daughter would not have to become a prostitute, and my son &#8212; if I had one &#8212; would not have to become a coal miner. Were someone to kidnap my child to impress them into any sort of labor, I would hunt the kidnapper down and beat him to death.</p>
<p>If my daughter were to choose to be a prostitute, abandoning better choices, I would be heartbroken. Same would go for my son, if I had one and he were to head off to the coal mine.</p>
<p>However, if, God forbid, I were killed today and left my children penniless, or my children weren&#8217;t all that smart, such that prostitution became the best option in her judgment, it seems evil for a society to deny a woman the right to earn a living.</p>
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		<title>By: chefantwon</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/07/17/i-was-in-love/#comment-189175</link>
		<dc:creator>chefantwon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, there's only 2 choices here.

Close the clubs

or make Prostitution legal

Either way it's going to be up to the Korean government to decide.

The club owners want the business and if the girls were regulated, then the chance of catching a STD will be greatly reduced.

I find it interesting the airman's juicy girl turned him in. However, since she's in a win/win situation, she likely couldn't care less. Her ticket is still punched for the states or if not, her bar bill is paid off. 

Kids....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, there&#8217;s only 2 choices here.</p>
<p>Close the clubs</p>
<p>or make Prostitution legal</p>
<p>Either way it&#8217;s going to be up to the Korean government to decide.</p>
<p>The club owners want the business and if the girls were regulated, then the chance of catching a STD will be greatly reduced.</p>
<p>I find it interesting the airman&#8217;s juicy girl turned him in. However, since she&#8217;s in a win/win situation, she likely couldn&#8217;t care less. Her ticket is still punched for the states or if not, her bar bill is paid off. </p>
<p>Kids&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendon-it isn't that weird at all. 

Prostitution SHOULD be legal. By regulate it I mean if there are going to be "approved" places, the girls should be health tested, etc.-similar to the brothels in Nevada.

BUT

USFK should not endorse or subsidize marriages to or immigration of prostitutes.

They serve a real purpose but the current situation leads to confusion, misunderstanding, and waste of time and money. 

IF once prositution was legal and a soldier wanted to marry a girl who was openly a prostitute, it should be on the couples own dollar with NO help from the military. And the military should not allow it while the soldier is serving here. If the idiot wants to marry a whore, let him figure a way to get her to the states and THEN marry her. Of course, once she realized he had gotten her to the states and she didn't even have to marry him, he'd likely not hear from her again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendon-it isn&#8217;t that weird at all. </p>
<p>Prostitution SHOULD be legal. By regulate it I mean if there are going to be &#8220;approved&#8221; places, the girls should be health tested, etc.-similar to the brothels in Nevada.</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>USFK should not endorse or subsidize marriages to or immigration of prostitutes.</p>
<p>They serve a real purpose but the current situation leads to confusion, misunderstanding, and waste of time and money. </p>
<p>IF once prositution was legal and a soldier wanted to marry a girl who was openly a prostitute, it should be on the couples own dollar with NO help from the military. And the military should not allow it while the soldier is serving here. If the idiot wants to marry a whore, let him figure a way to get her to the states and THEN marry her. Of course, once she realized he had gotten her to the states and she didn&#8217;t even have to marry him, he&#8217;d likely not hear from her again.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/07/17/i-was-in-love/#comment-188540</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendon,
Remind me NOT to hire you as you can not get a visa for you wife if she was a prostitute.  The bar exam was a bottle of Jack Daniels for you :?:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendon,<br />
Remind me NOT to hire you as you can not get a visa for you wife if she was a prostitute.  The bar exam was a bottle of Jack Daniels for you <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_question.gif' alt=':?:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/07/17/i-was-in-love/#comment-188468</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April -- What if marrying a prostitute is exciting to the soldier? What if it's his fantasy? (Captain Save-a-Ho...)

You espouse an odd combination of legalize-and-regulate libertarianism and nannyism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April &#8212; What if marrying a prostitute is exciting to the soldier? What if it&#8217;s his fantasy? (Captain Save-a-Ho&#8230;)</p>
<p>You espouse an odd combination of legalize-and-regulate libertarianism and nannyism.</p>
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		<title>By: CalmSeas</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/07/17/i-was-in-love/#comment-188378</link>
		<dc:creator>CalmSeas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general consensus seems to be:

1. Make prostitution legal. :eek: 
2. Place ANY bar with TCNs OFF-LIMITS :idea: 
3. Refuse to allow marriage of a U.S. sodier to any TCN bar worker while in Korea. :shock: 

Are you listening US Army Brass??? :?:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general consensus seems to be:</p>
<p>1. Make prostitution legal. <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':eek:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
2. Place ANY bar with TCNs OFF-LIMITS <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif' alt=':idea:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
3. Refuse to allow marriage of a U.S. sodier to any TCN bar worker while in Korea. <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Are you listening US Army Brass??? <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_question.gif' alt=':?:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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