Comments on: Obama Looking to Meet with Kim Jong-il

By: North Korea Endorses Barack Hussein Obama-Politics and Government-EOG Sports Betting Forums

Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:27:00 +0000

[...] but the candidates themselves have given the North Koreans plenty to judge them by. Both Obama and McCain have told us how they?d deal with the North Koreans. McCain has expressed his distaste [...]

By: Barack Obama Endorsed By the North Koreans

Barack Obama Endorsed By the North Koreans — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:41:50 +0000

[...] Jong-il must really be looking forward to that meeting with no pre-conditions by a Barack Obama administration: The Chosun Sinbo, the mouthpiece of North Korea’s Japanese [...]

By: OneFreeKorea » Obama Gets Another Unwanted Endorsement

OneFreeKorea » Obama Gets Another Unwanted Endorsement — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:34:28 +0000

[...] but the candidates themselves have given the North Koreans plenty to judge them by. Both Obama and McCain have told us how they’d deal with the North Koreans. McCain has expressed [...]

By: The final cut: August 2007

The final cut: August 2007 — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:46:23 +0000

[...] hey “peace and prosperity on the Korean peninsula” is on its way. The only question remaining is if Barack Obama can go with President Roh or not. Actually predicting that a second inter-Korean summit was [...]

By: "Peace & Prosperity on the Korean Peninsula" is Announced, Why Am I Not Excited? at ROK Drop

Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:51:01 +0000

[...] and prosperity on the Korean peninsula" is on its way. The only question remaining is if Barack Obama can go with President Roh or [...]

By: CPT KIM

CPT KIM — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:35:15 +0000

Kim Jongil will misundertood and he will said, "Osama is coming? I love to meet him." After all we both hate US.

By: kingkitty

kingkitty — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:17:25 +0000

Well I think Obama is done

By: GI Korea

GI Korea — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:15:34 +0000

People like Christopher Hill are used to negotiate with Kim Jong-il not the US president. When you hold a summit the end state has to be determined in advance. When Nixon went to China the results of the summit were already known before he even went. The details of the prior negotiations with the Chinese over that summit are actually very interesting if you read about it.

If Obama went to Pyongyang with a result already known such as Kim Jong-il giving up all his nuclear weapons and HEU program than Obama would not be a simple propaganda piece because he got something out of the North Koreans. By simply going to Pyongyang and getting nothing out of it is pointless and simply very naive.

Hillary should know because here husband set off the second intifadah in the West Bank after the failed Camp David talks with Arafat. The results of those talks were not locked in in advance.

Also when you watch the shows about NK and all the people worshipping Kim Jong-il keep in mind that in Pyongyang they do worship him while in the countryside there has been plenty of acts of resistance against the regime. Highly recommend reading Becker's book which covers many of the internal resistance acts. The defector accounts are also saying people away from the regime elite in Pyongyang are highly unhappy with Kim Jong-il. Plus the constant stream of video coming out of North Korea of human rights violations is also quite telling.

By: The Marmot’s Hole » Korea Blog Aggregator

The Marmot’s Hole » Korea Blog Aggregator — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:48:30 +0000

[...] Drop: Obama Looking to Meet with Kim Jong-ilPosted 19 hours agoHere is an interesting quote from Democratic Presidential Candidate Barack Obama [...]

By: ExpatJane

ExpatJane — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:09:26 +0000

I think there is a difference between being a blind liberal versus being a liberal with progressive views.

I think we should engage the other side. Look where cutting off contact with Cuba has gotten us, nothing. The same with Iran after the hostage crisis during the Carter administration.

The question is "how" to engage them bearing in mind all the implications that go with it.

If you think that during the current administration we haven't been talking to the North Koreans you're fooling yourselves. We have been. It just hasn't been high-level heads of state.

Obama said what he believed and it's the moment people have been waiting for from him: a vulnerability. Obama doesn't have the international experience that Clinton does.

Again, I don't think it would be a bad idea to talk to the heads of state that we oppose. Kim Jong-il's regime isn't going to collapse even if a US president doesn't talk to him. That much we've seen with the current administration. There will be no internal implosion of the DPRK because too many nations, including China and South Korea, prefer the status quo and will make sure it stays.

If a US president does talk to Kim Jong-il (which I doubt even if it's Obama), sure it would be good for them in Pyongyang to broadcast on TV. However, they're already worshiping him.

Have you not seen the 2004 film "A State of Mind" where a Korean family in Pyongyang was watching some North Korean event – I think the soliders were goosestep marching as they usually do and someone said something about how America would be scared at their display of might. Please. That woman's comment actually made me laugh when I saw that scene.

Those people are so removed from reality that, sure, it would be used to prove Dear Leader is too great for words, but they already think that.