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		<title>By: BLACKFIVE: Haditha Dad pummels Lummox Murtha</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/08/30/excavation-team-that-no-gun-ri-comes-up-empty/comment-page-1/#comment-188480</link>
		<dc:creator>BLACKFIVE: Haditha Dad pummels Lummox Murtha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Oh, I almost forgot- you MUST read this post in particular: ROK Drop: &quot;Excavation Team at No Gun Ri Comes Up Empty&quot; [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Oh, I almost forgot- you MUST read this post in particular: ROK Drop: &#8220;Excavation Team at No Gun Ri Comes Up Empty&#8221; [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Rehashing Korean War Era Executions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rehashing Korean War Era Executions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Despite writing this article about something that is already well documented, Hanley was able to get the reaction I’m sure he was hoping for. If you type in “Korean War + executions” into Google you will see many mainstream news outlets are running with Hanley’s article. I’m sure Hanley probably must have a lot of self satisfaction with his latest piece of professional atrocity mongering. At least this time he chose a topic where he could actually find some bodies to sensationalize, unlike No Gun Ri. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Despite writing this article about something that is already well documented, Hanley was able to get the reaction I’m sure he was hoping for. If you type in “Korean War + executions” into Google you will see many mainstream news outlets are running with Hanley’s article. I’m sure Hanley probably must have a lot of self satisfaction with his latest piece of professional atrocity mongering. At least this time he chose a topic where he could actually find some bodies to sensationalize, unlike No Gun Ri. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The final cut</title>
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		<dc:creator>The final cut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Thursday, August 30, 2007     »  [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Thursday, August 30, 2007     »  [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: neo-neocon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Haditha: searching for this war&#8217;s &#8220;defining atrocity&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>neo-neocon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Haditha: searching for this war&#8217;s &#8220;defining atrocity&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] it turns out the star witnesses weren&#8217;t even there, and no hard evidence has turned up after archaeological digs at the [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] it turns out the star witnesses weren&#8217;t even there, and no hard evidence has turned up after archaeological digs at the [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: jion999</title>
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		<dc:creator>jion999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAN

Thanks.
Very good explanation about the mentality of Koreans.</description>
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<p>Thanks.<br />
Very good explanation about the mentality of Koreans.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jion999

I see your point on who the koreans pick to critcize.  I like to explain it with the &quot;PC&quot; Effect.  Russia and China would not care what korea said about them.  So for Korea it would be a waist of breath.  Now US and to a lesser extent Japan, really do care what is said, so in this way korea gains a foot hold with the &quot;victim&quot; card.  If US was as evil as korea seems to proclame, well they would be too frightened to say a word about it.  They would pay US money not to hurt them and keep mouth shut.  But US is victim of &quot;PC&quot; mentality, and therefore can be easily pushed around with words.  The koreans not only know this, but depend on it.  When I was in korea in the 90s a korean friend refered to US as a &quot;paper Tiger&quot;.  For better or worse, depending on your outlook, Iraq changed that.  Now US is warmonger.

Glad you brought that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jion999</p>
<p>I see your point on who the koreans pick to critcize.  I like to explain it with the &#8220;PC&#8221; Effect.  Russia and China would not care what korea said about them.  So for Korea it would be a waist of breath.  Now US and to a lesser extent Japan, really do care what is said, so in this way korea gains a foot hold with the &#8220;victim&#8221; card.  If US was as evil as korea seems to proclame, well they would be too frightened to say a word about it.  They would pay US money not to hurt them and keep mouth shut.  But US is victim of &#8220;PC&#8221; mentality, and therefore can be easily pushed around with words.  The koreans not only know this, but depend on it.  When I was in korea in the 90s a korean friend refered to US as a &#8220;paper Tiger&#8221;.  For better or worse, depending on your outlook, Iraq changed that.  Now US is warmonger.</p>
<p>Glad you brought that up.</p>
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		<title>By: jion999</title>
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		<dc:creator>jion999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GI Korea

The point is the reason why they hate Americans and Japanese only which are very friendly countries to Korea?
Why they don’t criticize Russia which divided Korean peninsula with US?
Why they don’t criticize China which had conquered Korea for hundreds years and invaded Korea during Korean War?

I think this fact shows very interesting mentality of Koreans.
I hope you would make a new thread to analyze about this question some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GI Korea</p>
<p>The point is the reason why they hate Americans and Japanese only which are very friendly countries to Korea?<br />
Why they don’t criticize Russia which divided Korean peninsula with US?<br />
Why they don’t criticize China which had conquered Korea for hundreds years and invaded Korea during Korean War?</p>
<p>I think this fact shows very interesting mentality of Koreans.<br />
I hope you would make a new thread to analyze about this question some day.</p>
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		<title>By: jion999</title>
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		<dc:creator>jion999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GI Korea

I said such kind scientific study about number of casualties in No Gun Ri doesn&#039;t work to Koreans.

Even if you succeed to deny No Gun Ri massacre completely with so many evidences, they will find another fault of Americans and continue to criticize US.

Katsura-Taft agreement, Division of Korean peninsula, Korean comfort stations called &quot;Texas&quot; for American GIs, crimes of GIs.....

There are so many topics they could use to criticize US.
They can use anything to criticize US if they have an intention to do so with any kind of efforts.
Why? 
Criticizing foreigners and pretending to be victims…..
It is their style to show their nationalism.


Even the traffic accident of GI was called &quot;massacre&quot; in Korea and so many malicious stories were fabricated. You know.

I know you love Korea.
Korea must be your second mother country.

However, it is not easy to treat Korea&#039;s jingoism.
It is not the matter of logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GI Korea</p>
<p>I said such kind scientific study about number of casualties in No Gun Ri doesn&#8217;t work to Koreans.</p>
<p>Even if you succeed to deny No Gun Ri massacre completely with so many evidences, they will find another fault of Americans and continue to criticize US.</p>
<p>Katsura-Taft agreement, Division of Korean peninsula, Korean comfort stations called &#8220;Texas&#8221; for American GIs, crimes of GIs&#8230;..</p>
<p>There are so many topics they could use to criticize US.<br />
They can use anything to criticize US if they have an intention to do so with any kind of efforts.<br />
Why?<br />
Criticizing foreigners and pretending to be victims…..<br />
It is their style to show their nationalism.</p>
<p>Even the traffic accident of GI was called &#8220;massacre&#8221; in Korea and so many malicious stories were fabricated. You know.</p>
<p>I know you love Korea.<br />
Korea must be your second mother country.</p>
<p>However, it is not easy to treat Korea&#8217;s jingoism.<br />
It is not the matter of logic.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard both sides of the story about Nanking but have not studied it very closely so I will just say that I don&#039;t want No Gun Ri to be in anyway linked to Nanking.  

A tragedy did happen at No Gun Ri what I&#039;m disputing is the motivations of the soldiers, the sequence of events, and the body count mythology.  Most veterans put the body count around 10-15 I can&#039;t find a scenario where it could have exceeded 50.  The fact nothing was found tends to suggest that 50 is probably even too high of a number now and the lower number from the veterans is probably the most accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard both sides of the story about Nanking but have not studied it very closely so I will just say that I don&#8217;t want No Gun Ri to be in anyway linked to Nanking.  </p>
<p>A tragedy did happen at No Gun Ri what I&#8217;m disputing is the motivations of the soldiers, the sequence of events, and the body count mythology.  Most veterans put the body count around 10-15 I can&#8217;t find a scenario where it could have exceeded 50.  The fact nothing was found tends to suggest that 50 is probably even too high of a number now and the lower number from the veterans is probably the most accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: jion999</title>
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		<dc:creator>jion999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surabol

&quot;the latest excavation failed to recover even a single bone or remains.&quot;

It would not be persuadable for illogical Koreans because they started to criticize Americans without evidences in the first place.

When Japanese insisted that there was no evidence that Japanese government ordered to coerce Koreans women to be comfort women, they said Japan was hiding the evidences.

It means they started to criticize Japan without concrete evidence.

I know the controversy of No Gun Ri would not end even if they found there were no remains there.

They criticize Americans because they hate Americans.
No Gun Ri is just excuse for them to criticize US.

Korean’s anti-US sentiment is similar to anti-Japan sentiment.
They are twins of Korea’s nationalism and jingoism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surabol</p>
<p>&#8220;the latest excavation failed to recover even a single bone or remains.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would not be persuadable for illogical Koreans because they started to criticize Americans without evidences in the first place.</p>
<p>When Japanese insisted that there was no evidence that Japanese government ordered to coerce Koreans women to be comfort women, they said Japan was hiding the evidences.</p>
<p>It means they started to criticize Japan without concrete evidence.</p>
<p>I know the controversy of No Gun Ri would not end even if they found there were no remains there.</p>
<p>They criticize Americans because they hate Americans.<br />
No Gun Ri is just excuse for them to criticize US.</p>
<p>Korean’s anti-US sentiment is similar to anti-Japan sentiment.<br />
They are twins of Korea’s nationalism and jingoism.</p>
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