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	<title>Comments on: Camp Long PX Closes After Black Market Scandal</title>
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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; B.S. Stands for &#8216;Bovine Spongiform&#8217;</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; B.S. Stands for &#8216;Bovine Spongiform&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] barriers on U.S. automobiles, and will end up severely restricting all U.S. beef imports not purchased by the trunkload at the South Post PX, for the subsequent re-sale in market stalls and kalbi restaurants across [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] barriers on U.S. automobiles, and will end up severely restricting all U.S. beef imports not purchased by the trunkload at the South Post PX, for the subsequent re-sale in market stalls and kalbi restaurants across [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Korean Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - I went to the red door today...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korean Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - I went to the red door today...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Where else in Seoul can you buy Triscuit crackers or some of those cereals.   They also have a wide selection of deoderants and condoms.   The Red Door is the only place in Seoul where you can buy some of those things.      True.   And enjoy it while you can.   http://rokdrop.com/2007/09/26/camp-long-px-closes-after-black-market-scandal/ [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer" target="_blank"><img src="http://rokdrop.com/wp-content/plugins/kramer/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] Where else in Seoul can you buy Triscuit crackers or some of those cereals.   They also have a wide selection of deoderants and condoms.   The Red Door is the only place in Seoul where you can buy some of those things.      True.   And enjoy it while you can.   <a href="http://rokdrop.com/2007/09/26/camp-long-px-closes-after-black-market-scandal/" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/2007/09/26/camp-long-px-closes-after-black-market-scandal/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cloying Odor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloying Odor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cp. Stanley is really bad when it comes to this stuff. The PX manager is involved in the operation. The vendors that are in the outside mall routinely hang out in the PX and purchase items with assistance from the manager and other store personel. The lack of any MP presence on the post contributes to this. If you have an hour and nothing to do, hang out in the gravel parking lot and just watch. It's an eye opener.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cp. Stanley is really bad when it comes to this stuff. The PX manager is involved in the operation. The vendors that are in the outside mall routinely hang out in the PX and purchase items with assistance from the manager and other store personel. The lack of any MP presence on the post contributes to this. If you have an hour and nothing to do, hang out in the gravel parking lot and just watch. It&#8217;s an eye opener.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/09/26/camp-long-px-closes-after-black-market-scandal/#comment-78330</link>
		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. :) 

You know what you are probably right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You know what you are probably right.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, knowing how things work around here, they probably did have a memo....  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, knowing how things work around here, they probably did have a memo&#8230;.  <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said before I have contacted CID about suspected black marketing  and never does any good.  You would still see the same people black marketing.  

What pissed me off most of all was when we would have a unit BBQ and would have to get a special memo signed off by the garrison commander to purchase a large amount of items from the commissary for the unit BBQ.  However the black marketers like you just saw will buy even more stuff than what I would need for a unit BBQ and what's the odds they have a garrison commander memo allowing them to do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said before I have contacted CID about suspected black marketing  and never does any good.  You would still see the same people black marketing.  </p>
<p>What pissed me off most of all was when we would have a unit BBQ and would have to get a special memo signed off by the garrison commander to purchase a large amount of items from the commissary for the unit BBQ.  However the black marketers like you just saw will buy even more stuff than what I would need for a unit BBQ and what&#8217;s the odds they have a garrison commander memo allowing them to do it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's one I sent up today.  Honestly, I wouldn't have done anything because I know it's futile, but the pricks pissed me off by leaving their shopping carts helter-skelter in the parking lot so I had to play slalom driving around them.

Who: Elderly Korean man and woman.
 
What: Multiple trips into the PX to retrieve several shopping carts full of goods.  One spouse would sit in the parking lot when the other went into the PX, then without saying a word to each other, one would come out about 15 minutes later with a shopping cart full of things as the other one would go into the PX, almost like a tag-team event.  There were five abandoned shopping carts in the parking lot, although I only watched them enough times to witness them bringing out three shopping carts in such fashion.  When their trunk was full, they started placing things into the backseat, and I noticed a 24-pack of Mountain Dew and large bags of rice in the backseat as well, presumably from the Stanley Commissary.
 
I didn't see what was in the numerous white AAFES bags they brought out, but they brought out at least 3x each of the JVC DVD/VHS players featured on the cover of the 28SEP-04OCT AAFES sale flyer.  These were clearly visible as they were in their original cardboard packaging with purple labeling.
 
When: 30 1600-1730 SEP 07.
 
Where: Camp Stanley PX gravel parking lot.
 
Car: Late model silver-grey Lincoln sedan, SOFA license plate 16DA 6836.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one I sent up today.  Honestly, I wouldn&#8217;t have done anything because I know it&#8217;s futile, but the pricks pissed me off by leaving their shopping carts helter-skelter in the parking lot so I had to play slalom driving around them.</p>
<p>Who: Elderly Korean man and woman.</p>
<p>What: Multiple trips into the PX to retrieve several shopping carts full of goods.  One spouse would sit in the parking lot when the other went into the PX, then without saying a word to each other, one would come out about 15 minutes later with a shopping cart full of things as the other one would go into the PX, almost like a tag-team event.  There were five abandoned shopping carts in the parking lot, although I only watched them enough times to witness them bringing out three shopping carts in such fashion.  When their trunk was full, they started placing things into the backseat, and I noticed a 24-pack of Mountain Dew and large bags of rice in the backseat as well, presumably from the Stanley Commissary.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see what was in the numerous white AAFES bags they brought out, but they brought out at least 3x each of the JVC DVD/VHS players featured on the cover of the 28SEP-04OCT AAFES sale flyer.  These were clearly visible as they were in their original cardboard packaging with purple labeling.</p>
<p>When: 30 1600-1730 SEP 07.</p>
<p>Where: Camp Stanley PX gravel parking lot.</p>
<p>Car: Late model silver-grey Lincoln sedan, SOFA license plate 16DA 6836.</p>
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		<title>By: Bones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen that kind of BM is not worth CID's time you spend 200 in the commissary you might make 250-275....okay.....what's being sold is food not secrets.....if you will notice they get caught because they get greedy. 50 to 100 bucks is not a problem...but 100,000 bucks is and that's who get busted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen that kind of BM is not worth CID&#8217;s time you spend 200 in the commissary you might make 250-275&#8230;.okay&#8230;..what&#8217;s being sold is food not secrets&#8230;..if you will notice they get caught because they get greedy. 50 to 100 bucks is not a problem&#8230;but 100,000 bucks is and that&#8217;s who get busted.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Atrocious</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/09/26/camp-long-px-closes-after-black-market-scandal/#comment-77813</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Atrocious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are different types of illegal activity going on in these places--some which are sustainable and some that are not.  The classic form of blackmarketing involves allowing SOFA-status and non-SOFA personnel to purchase goods for resale off post.  This is the sustainable type of black marketing that USFK has turned a blind eye to for decades.  The PX/Class VI/etc make their money on the transactions, the inventories and cash receipts balance, and everyone is happy.  The loser is the Korean government, since these products are essentially being sold as duty-free goods.  But nobody really cares--well, except for the GIs that can't find anything but ox tail, vitamins, and Mogen David wine for sale on post.

The sustainable form of black marketing has been going on since MacArthur landed at Incheon.  It's profitable and it could conceivably go on indefinitely.

The unsustainable type is when you have the the blackmarketeers getting overly greedy and stealing inventory from the back store rooms.  This is essentially killing the goose that keeps laying the golden eggs.  This is just what happened at Camp Long.  Not content just to sell goods for a small kick back, the greed set in and inventory began disappearing off the back loading ramp.  Not real smart.  Now the PX is closed and these idiots no longer have a source of illicit income.  If they'd have been smart they would have just continued to sell the goods over the counter for a small "fee."  

But what can I say, most criminals just happen to be criminally stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are different types of illegal activity going on in these places&#8211;some which are sustainable and some that are not.  The classic form of blackmarketing involves allowing SOFA-status and non-SOFA personnel to purchase goods for resale off post.  This is the sustainable type of black marketing that USFK has turned a blind eye to for decades.  The PX/Class VI/etc make their money on the transactions, the inventories and cash receipts balance, and everyone is happy.  The loser is the Korean government, since these products are essentially being sold as duty-free goods.  But nobody really cares&#8211;well, except for the GIs that can&#8217;t find anything but ox tail, vitamins, and Mogen David wine for sale on post.</p>
<p>The sustainable form of black marketing has been going on since MacArthur landed at Incheon.  It&#8217;s profitable and it could conceivably go on indefinitely.</p>
<p>The unsustainable type is when you have the the blackmarketeers getting overly greedy and stealing inventory from the back store rooms.  This is essentially killing the goose that keeps laying the golden eggs.  This is just what happened at Camp Long.  Not content just to sell goods for a small kick back, the greed set in and inventory began disappearing off the back loading ramp.  Not real smart.  Now the PX is closed and these idiots no longer have a source of illicit income.  If they&#8217;d have been smart they would have just continued to sell the goods over the counter for a small &#8220;fee.&#8221;  </p>
<p>But what can I say, most criminals just happen to be criminally stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If USFK is going to allow black marketing than quit busting people for doing it than.  If USFK is going to make a regulation than consistently enforce it.  How fair is a regulation that is only selectively enforced?  

Plus should someone working at a small PX be making millions of dollars?  The people at the PX don't work nearly as hard as soldiers serving in Korea, Iraq, and elsewhere who are not making easy millions. 

Allowing black marketing only adds to the  perception of high level corruption in USFK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If USFK is going to allow black marketing than quit busting people for doing it than.  If USFK is going to make a regulation than consistently enforce it.  How fair is a regulation that is only selectively enforced?  </p>
<p>Plus should someone working at a small PX be making millions of dollars?  The people at the PX don&#8217;t work nearly as hard as soldiers serving in Korea, Iraq, and elsewhere who are not making easy millions. </p>
<p>Allowing black marketing only adds to the  perception of high level corruption in USFK.</p>
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