Comments on: Did Rush Limbaugh Call Veterans “Phony Soldiers”?

By: A Military of the “Republican Right-Wing Noise Machine” at Forward Deployed

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:40:55 +0000

[...] him explain the Amnesty International plants (see here & here), the leftist plants, the "phony soldiers", lying soldiers, the misinterpreting recruiting numbers to claim a draft is needed, the [...]

By: ROK Drop Weekly Linklets - 21OCT07 at ROK Drop

ROK Drop Weekly Linklets - 21OCT07 at ROK Drop — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:22:39 +0000

[...] won in Iraq? Well here is an indication. - Limbaugh is a genius the way he turned around the smear job on him. - Damn those are some ugly uniforms. - This is a funny [...]

By: Pablo Paredes Another Leftist War Hero at Forward Deployed

Pablo Paredes Another Leftist War Hero at Forward Deployed — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:38:50 +0000

[...] Parades may not be a "phony soldier" but he is definitely a deserter and liar unworthy of anyone’s respect. This guy [...]

By: Standing Up for 1LT Hegseth at Forward Deployed

Standing Up for 1LT Hegseth at Forward Deployed — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:52:21 +0000

[...] find it quite ironic how worked up the usual suspects from the left were when Rush Limbaugh made his comments about "phony soldiers", yet they some how find it acceptable to call real soldiers that [...]

By: bodhi

bodhi — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:11:20 +0000

GI, when goout says that you agree with everything that Rush says, he means to use it as a way to render your opinion invalid. Now he has no way of knowing what you think in regards to Rush, all he knows/perceives is we are sticking up for Rush…therefore we must be getting our opinion from him. Thereby making our opinions less worthy than those who are more enlightened. Ever notice the same tactic isn’t used on the left?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the both of us see this controversy as less about Rush & more about the truth. Rush can defend himself. What bothers me is this attempt by the far-left to muddy the waters in light of the MoveOn.org debacle. They are attempt to distort the truth. If they get away with it now then it’ll be perpetuated here on out……& during the ‘08 campaign it’ll be regurgitated.

By: GI

GI — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:35:22 +0000

Rush went on to clarify if you continue the transcript that he was clearly referring to the Jessie Macbeth’s out there. You have yet to produce a line that we he says he meant all soldiers against the war are phony soldiers. I have demonstrated above the line where he is clearly talking about the Jessie Macbeths out there and I even have the Youtube video from the ABC news report on phony soldiers that was aired just days before Rush’s show.

I have to assume that you think ABC news is also referring to all soldiers against the war are phony soldiers to?

Plus your claims that I agree with everything Rush says is false. I have lived overseas for years and do not listen to Rush Limbaugh. If somebody like John Kerry said this I would not jump on him either. In fact I defended John Kerry before after he was criticized over the taser incident.

http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/09/19/help-help-im-being-repressed/#comment-109149

Personally I think this is great that the left has to fight over comments Rush Limbaugh said because it means they are desperate. Let the controversy continue for all I care.

By: goout

goout — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:29:46 +0000

First of all I was wrong in calling this blog a right wing blog as I got caught up in the heat of discussion. You’re right - most posts are about the military. But, your right leaning overtones are apparent in most of the opinions. Not a bad thing, just thought I’d point it out. If I had a blog, it would probably reflect my left-leaning thoughts as well. Second, for Gendeddy - your immediate jump to calling me brain-dead removed any credibility of your responses to this discussion. But, that’s all right, I understand. I have dealt with people like you many times in my life and I wish you peace and serenity. Now on to my last response to this “Rush thing.” I have listened to the tape, read the transcripts over and over. And it still comes out that Rush considers solders that speak out against the war as “Phony Solders”. Of course he talks about pro-war solders as “the real solders”. GI wrote: “Goout still has not pointed out anywhere in the call where Rush says all soldiers against the war are phony soldiers because he can’t because he didn’t say that.” Printed below is the quote from Rush where he chimes in with the caller who states, “They never talk to real solders. They talk to solders that come out of the blue and talk to the media”.

LIMBAUGH: “Save the — keep the troops safe” or whatever. I — it’s not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.

CALLER 2: No, it’s not, and what’s really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.

LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they’re willing to sacrifice for their country.

If you can’t see that he is clearly referring to solders that speak against the war as “Phony solders” then there is nothing I can do to convince you. You obviously would never view anything Rush says as wrong-headed. But, it’s OK; you are entitled to believe what you want, as am I.

I was going to let this dog lie, until I read Gendeddy’s rant: “…Interesting how incensed liberal’s attempting to undermine the armed forces become when their ‘patriotism’ is questioned. In the days of FDR, darling of the Democrats, those attempting to undermine the military would have been identified because of their treasonous activities, convicted in a secret military tribunal and executed. How I long for those good old days of FDR…” I’m curious. Are you insinuating that if someone speaks against the war, they are unpatriotic? Treasonous? Or should be executed for speaking these views? Hmmmmmm, if so, you’re proving my point about the right vilifying anyone who does not march lock step with the right. I’m also, curious about your views on the constitution (Free speech and the like), or do you feel as Atty General Gonzales stated, “It’s just a piece of paper”. I must tell you, with views like that, I’m happy the country is swinging back to the left. If (and I’m saying IF) those are in fact your views, I’ll say a prayer for you (No, “Libs” are not Godless like you’ve heard from your many right wing heroes). Again, I hope for some serenity in your life. It must be hell to walk around with so much resentment.

By: Gendeddy

Gendeddy — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:14:00 +0000

GI:
Appreciate your military blog. Understand that Goout represents the same traitorous position as John F. Kerry did in my day. Kerry was truly one of the phony soldiers of another era. Liberal’s hold up as hero’s those that would commit perjury before a Congressional Committee or Federal Court.
In my day, the real hero’s of the left were the draft dodgers, winter soldiers and phony soldiers that worked with John F. Kerry and the communists that funded their operations.
It appears that George Soros has now become the funding source for the anti-American activities of the liberal left.
Interesting how incensed liberal’s attempting to undermine the armed forces become when their ‘patriotism’ is questioned. In the days of FDR, darling of the Democrats, those attempting to undermine the military would have been identified because of their treasonous activities, convicted in a secret military tribunal and executed.
How I long for those good old days of FDR.

By: GI

GI — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:05:17 +0000

As was stated before I have the link to Flopping Aces above who has the audio and have listened to the whole thing, so your claims are ridiculous. You interpret Rush as “defraying the damage” when he talks about Jesse Macbeth which shows your clear bias and intelectual dishonesty because it can also be interpretted as completely clarifying his remarks so propagandists from Media Matters cannot falsify what he meant. That is why Media Matters had to carefully edit the tape like they have done in past controversies as well.

Goout still has not pointed out anywhere in the call where Rush says all soldiers against the war are phony soldiers becuase he can’t because he didn’t say that. He just keeps repeating the same tired lines in hopes that someone will believe him mixed with a bunch of irrelevant information that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

I also love how I am a “right wing blog” now. Another simple propaganda attempt. Just for your information this is a “military blog” not a right wing blog. I don’t talk about abortion I don’t talk about the death penalty, or health care or any of the other usual political issues out there, I discuss topics related to military issues. Just look at the last few posts I have discussed the Indian military, the Aussies, Burma, Darfur, etc. The newest thing on the left is to try and label milblogs as “right wing” in order to disparage what we say. Just another sign of desperation. If you can’t debate the issues at hand than slime and disparage.

This is the phoniest controversy I have seen yet and it just goes to show how desperate the left is right now.

By: Gendeddy

Gendeddy — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:57:43 +0000

Goout: (Braindead):
This old man heard the broadcast live, read the transcript and the trash that came from Media Matters and drones like yourself. Get a life, admit you are both brain dead and wrong.