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		<title>By: Dave Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/10/10/nationless-child-of-camp-casey/comment-page-1/#comment-324742</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thought process = one long paragraph, coz when I get an idea in my head I just start typing and where it ends, it ends. Not so sure about &quot;meandering&quot; though - my subject matter didn&#039;t deviate from the political theme of the self-righteous US Embassy in Seoul, if you take a moment to reread the text...and let &#039;em suggest whatever they want, but it&#039;s highly unlikely, given I was home today and wrote this at about 8:00 o&#039;clock in the morning. Happy trails!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thought process = one long paragraph, coz when I get an idea in my head I just start typing and where it ends, it ends. Not so sure about &#8220;meandering&#8221; though &#8211; my subject matter didn&#8217;t deviate from the political theme of the self-righteous US Embassy in Seoul, if you take a moment to reread the text&#8230;and let &#8216;em suggest whatever they want, but it&#8217;s highly unlikely, given I was home today and wrote this at about 8:00 o&#8217;clock in the morning. Happy trails!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/10/10/nationless-child-of-camp-casey/comment-page-1/#comment-324611</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a story in the same vein... something to make every thinking person think for a moment... if there are any thinking people out there.

The &quot;civil matter&quot; brought this to mind... and it certainly fits with the topic of bureaucracy-run-amok. 

I knew a guy in the States.  He was driving along a few miles per hour over the speed limit.  Of course, this required a jacking by the cops... speeders are profitable, generally respect ah-thor-i-tee and don&#039;t shoot back too often.

(For the record, I like cops.  I have never had a problem with cops.  But, as I am an odd guy who does unusual things, I have been jacked by them uncountable times... the results have never been unfavorable... but boy do I have some great stories).

Anyway, this guy gets pulled over and they run his ID.  Bing.  He was wanted in Florida for hot checks.  They arrest him and, of course, tow his car (as the towing companies have a rather unethical relationship with law enforcement).

I could add that he denied everything the whole time... but what does that matter... jails are full of innocent people.

To make a long story short, it was very provable that he was not in Florida when any of these checks were written.  It was provable that he was white and the check-writer was black.  It was pretty obvious that his identity had been stolen since institutions place &quot;the safeguarding of our customers&#039; data as our number one priority&quot; but individuals within that institution do whatever they want... (ask me how USFK spread my personal information far and wide on at least two  occasions that I know of).

So... everybody from his expensive lawyer to the judge was understanding and sympathetic... but that didn&#039;t pay for the lawyer, bail, the towing charges, a lot of missed work or the hit on his credit report.

And, in the end, while every individual in power knew he had done no wrong... and even told him this... he had to sit through (and pay at) every step of the twisted, non-productive and slightly corrupt bureaucracy that America has become. 

This was a great way for America to turn an apple-pie-eating flag-waving working stiff into a guy who would now cheer for terrorists if they would choose correct targets... and there are more and more people thinking like this as the political system coddles the freaks and hassles the normal guys (see comment about how citizenship would be easily granted if the mother had simply gone to America illegally).  

While I am not terribly empathetic with JR&#039;s social situation, I am very sympathetic with his dealings with an arbitrary and faceless bureaucracy... 

...which is perpetuated by society&#039;s quiet tolerance.

PS, Dave... your thinking generally makes sense... but  some might suggest that you had a few drinks or smoked a big one before you hacked out that large meandering paragraph.  Just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a story in the same vein&#8230; something to make every thinking person think for a moment&#8230; if there are any thinking people out there.</p>
<p>The &#8220;civil matter&#8221; brought this to mind&#8230; and it certainly fits with the topic of bureaucracy-run-amok. </p>
<p>I knew a guy in the States.  He was driving along a few miles per hour over the speed limit.  Of course, this required a jacking by the cops&#8230; speeders are profitable, generally respect ah-thor-i-tee and don&#8217;t shoot back too often.</p>
<p>(For the record, I like cops.  I have never had a problem with cops.  But, as I am an odd guy who does unusual things, I have been jacked by them uncountable times&#8230; the results have never been unfavorable&#8230; but boy do I have some great stories).</p>
<p>Anyway, this guy gets pulled over and they run his ID.  Bing.  He was wanted in Florida for hot checks.  They arrest him and, of course, tow his car (as the towing companies have a rather unethical relationship with law enforcement).</p>
<p>I could add that he denied everything the whole time&#8230; but what does that matter&#8230; jails are full of innocent people.</p>
<p>To make a long story short, it was very provable that he was not in Florida when any of these checks were written.  It was provable that he was white and the check-writer was black.  It was pretty obvious that his identity had been stolen since institutions place &#8220;the safeguarding of our customers&#8217; data as our number one priority&#8221; but individuals within that institution do whatever they want&#8230; (ask me how USFK spread my personal information far and wide on at least two  occasions that I know of).</p>
<p>So&#8230; everybody from his expensive lawyer to the judge was understanding and sympathetic&#8230; but that didn&#8217;t pay for the lawyer, bail, the towing charges, a lot of missed work or the hit on his credit report.</p>
<p>And, in the end, while every individual in power knew he had done no wrong&#8230; and even told him this&#8230; he had to sit through (and pay at) every step of the twisted, non-productive and slightly corrupt bureaucracy that America has become. </p>
<p>This was a great way for America to turn an apple-pie-eating flag-waving working stiff into a guy who would now cheer for terrorists if they would choose correct targets&#8230; and there are more and more people thinking like this as the political system coddles the freaks and hassles the normal guys (see comment about how citizenship would be easily granted if the mother had simply gone to America illegally).  </p>
<p>While I am not terribly empathetic with JR&#8217;s social situation, I am very sympathetic with his dealings with an arbitrary and faceless bureaucracy&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;which is perpetuated by society&#8217;s quiet tolerance.</p>
<p>PS, Dave&#8230; your thinking generally makes sense&#8230; but  some might suggest that you had a few drinks or smoked a big one before you hacked out that large meandering paragraph.  Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/10/10/nationless-child-of-camp-casey/comment-page-1/#comment-324528</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probably a far cry from a truly democratic process but the term Politburo probably is a close fit to how these things operate, methinks. Decisions are made based on the needs of the bureaucracy, not necessarily the people; hence it is a true form of communism. As such, when the needs of the common man are overlooked or simply neglected, it generally goes badly for the whole of society. Anytime anyone is given the chance to make decisions or exploit what they believe is proper decorum or protocol, as opposed to following written policy or regulatory guidance, then we all suffer. Capitalizing on someone else&#039;s misery has always been the final and anticipated outcome of such a political situation, and allows for the introduction of such wonderful things as extortion, graft, payola, treason, sedition, and even terrorism, so sole-sourcing a simple paternity or DNA test to limit the options of the donor is an easy matter to conveniently justify and turns out to be financially rewarding, as well. As far as an inordinate number of local nationals working at the AMEMB, it only makes sense, doesn&#039;t it? They have a full working knowledge of both Korean immigration laws and the English language so they can achieve results in an expedient, amicable fashion, agreed? Well, I have to tell you - I had such a problem getting additional pages added to my passport at the AMEMB some time ago it was totally unconscionable...after wasting the whole day in Seoul, I went back in the afternoon only to be told I couldn&#039;t have pages added because of a civil matter in the US that had to be remedied first. I asked them why I couldn&#039;t have been told this four hours ago and their answer was, &quot;We had to run the information thru our database.&quot; Wow - that had to have taken all of 3-5 minutes, at the most. I was livid because I had a notarized memo attesting to the fact that this matter had been rectified...but, &quot;No, Sir - our database shows that...&quot; Before I lost my temper and said something I&#039;d likely regret later, I collected my thoughts and my paperwork and marched right on out the door. But do rest assured that once I got outside the gate I called back and gave that processing agent a piece of my mind. A US citizen shouldn&#039;t be treated like that on their own sovereign soil (as an embassy in any country is) but I knew I was right and that they were ridiculously stupid so got back on my bus and went home. Trouble is, I had to wait until returning to terra firma last year to add these additional pages, but I have them now, and they were inserted without so much as a flinch. That&#039;s my story and I&#039;m sticking to it, Comrades!!! :oops:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably a far cry from a truly democratic process but the term Politburo probably is a close fit to how these things operate, methinks. Decisions are made based on the needs of the bureaucracy, not necessarily the people; hence it is a true form of communism. As such, when the needs of the common man are overlooked or simply neglected, it generally goes badly for the whole of society. Anytime anyone is given the chance to make decisions or exploit what they believe is proper decorum or protocol, as opposed to following written policy or regulatory guidance, then we all suffer. Capitalizing on someone else&#8217;s misery has always been the final and anticipated outcome of such a political situation, and allows for the introduction of such wonderful things as extortion, graft, payola, treason, sedition, and even terrorism, so sole-sourcing a simple paternity or DNA test to limit the options of the donor is an easy matter to conveniently justify and turns out to be financially rewarding, as well. As far as an inordinate number of local nationals working at the AMEMB, it only makes sense, doesn&#8217;t it? They have a full working knowledge of both Korean immigration laws and the English language so they can achieve results in an expedient, amicable fashion, agreed? Well, I have to tell you &#8211; I had such a problem getting additional pages added to my passport at the AMEMB some time ago it was totally unconscionable&#8230;after wasting the whole day in Seoul, I went back in the afternoon only to be told I couldn&#8217;t have pages added because of a civil matter in the US that had to be remedied first. I asked them why I couldn&#8217;t have been told this four hours ago and their answer was, &#8220;We had to run the information thru our database.&#8221; Wow &#8211; that had to have taken all of 3-5 minutes, at the most. I was livid because I had a notarized memo attesting to the fact that this matter had been rectified&#8230;but, &#8220;No, Sir &#8211; our database shows that&#8230;&#8221; Before I lost my temper and said something I&#8217;d likely regret later, I collected my thoughts and my paperwork and marched right on out the door. But do rest assured that once I got outside the gate I called back and gave that processing agent a piece of my mind. A US citizen shouldn&#8217;t be treated like that on their own sovereign soil (as an embassy in any country is) but I knew I was right and that they were ridiculously stupid so got back on my bus and went home. Trouble is, I had to wait until returning to terra firma last year to add these additional pages, but I have them now, and they were inserted without so much as a flinch. That&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m sticking to it, Comrades!!! <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/10/10/nationless-child-of-camp-casey/comment-page-1/#comment-324213</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When they officially charge $90 with their notarization monopoly, one COULD assume they just like everyday high prices.

On the other hand, whenever Koreans get involved, arrangements are never as they should be... and, at least around USFK, there is this institutional blindness even when it has a serious negative affect.

If you would like some degree of satisfaction (or even revenge, depending on the outcome) have a Korean contact the two labs and inquire about a DNA test.  A hour later, call up in your best Texas accent and tell &#039;em the embassy sent you.  Compare prices.  Make a stink if necessary.

In defense of the embassy, I have always had fast and efficient (though not so friendly) service from them... although I&#039;m skeptical about the number of Korean employees in key jobs... contrasted, for example, with the number of American employees at the Korean embassy in DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they officially charge $90 with their notarization monopoly, one COULD assume they just like everyday high prices.</p>
<p>On the other hand, whenever Koreans get involved, arrangements are never as they should be&#8230; and, at least around USFK, there is this institutional blindness even when it has a serious negative affect.</p>
<p>If you would like some degree of satisfaction (or even revenge, depending on the outcome) have a Korean contact the two labs and inquire about a DNA test.  A hour later, call up in your best Texas accent and tell &#8216;em the embassy sent you.  Compare prices.  Make a stink if necessary.</p>
<p>In defense of the embassy, I have always had fast and efficient (though not so friendly) service from them&#8230; although I&#8217;m skeptical about the number of Korean employees in key jobs&#8230; contrasted, for example, with the number of American employees at the Korean embassy in DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Ambrose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Ambrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I HATE the U.S. Embassy employees as a group. The feel just fine living on our base, using our PX and our commissary, while spitting on us when we need support. You have a whole group of people that are not accountable for any actions they do, or do not do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I HATE the U.S. Embassy employees as a group. The feel just fine living on our base, using our PX and our commissary, while spitting on us when we need support. You have a whole group of people that are not accountable for any actions they do, or do not do.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty strange isn&#039;t it Chickenhead?  We couldn&#039;t understand it either.  AMEMB personnel explained that they had made arrangements with only 2 clinics to conduct the DNA tests therefore these were the only 2 clinics they would accept the results from. ..................JR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty strange isn&#8217;t it Chickenhead?  We couldn&#8217;t understand it either.  AMEMB personnel explained that they had made arrangements with only 2 clinics to conduct the DNA tests therefore these were the only 2 clinics they would accept the results from. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;JR</p>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/10/10/nationless-child-of-camp-casey/comment-page-1/#comment-323825</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real story (as usual) is missed...

...where does the $1600 go on a $300 DNA test.

If USFK, AAFES, etc. was involved, we would know where it goes... but I don&#039;t rightly know about the embassy.  

I would LIKE to think they are on the level... but... this sounds kinda shady.

Just for fun, I wonder what kind of price they would quote if Mr.Kim-Off-the-Street asked for a DNA test.  Would it still be the Embassy-Just-Referred-Me-Price?  Or something closer to the industry standard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real story (as usual) is missed&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;where does the $1600 go on a $300 DNA test.</p>
<p>If USFK, AAFES, etc. was involved, we would know where it goes&#8230; but I don&#8217;t rightly know about the embassy.  </p>
<p>I would LIKE to think they are on the level&#8230; but&#8230; this sounds kinda shady.</p>
<p>Just for fun, I wonder what kind of price they would quote if Mr.Kim-Off-the-Street asked for a DNA test.  Would it still be the Embassy-Just-Referred-Me-Price?  Or something closer to the industry standard?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two of my favorite negative words are “sarcasm” and “cynicism” and they’re much more difficult to spell than the word “hear” – the word for being able to denote auditory sounds, not for the opposite of “there” – I don’t know who you are, “Hero” but it appears you have a problem not with the issue, but with me.

Identify yourself, and let’s see where it goes from there – I’ll gladly match my accolades vs. yours, but that’s not really what it’s all about, is it? My efforts were in the truest sense intended to help a friend so surely it’s not the matter-at-hand – it must be a personal vendetta against me that you carry with you, huh?

Yeah, I regenerated this blog trail because I found an online article that troubled me – much more than you do, to be honest – and I wanted to provide my perspective. Last time I checked, both Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press are alive-and-well, as far as we Americans are concerned, albeit slander and libel should be expressly omitted from these given freedoms, don’t you think?

Get on with life (they say it’s too short to be miserable) – and don’t be the little pinprick that tries to burst my bubble…I’ve probably done more notable things in the past decade than you’ve done in your entire lifetime, pal.

 :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of my favorite negative words are “sarcasm” and “cynicism” and they’re much more difficult to spell than the word “hear” – the word for being able to denote auditory sounds, not for the opposite of “there” – I don’t know who you are, “Hero” but it appears you have a problem not with the issue, but with me.</p>
<p>Identify yourself, and let’s see where it goes from there – I’ll gladly match my accolades vs. yours, but that’s not really what it’s all about, is it? My efforts were in the truest sense intended to help a friend so surely it’s not the matter-at-hand – it must be a personal vendetta against me that you carry with you, huh?</p>
<p>Yeah, I regenerated this blog trail because I found an online article that troubled me – much more than you do, to be honest – and I wanted to provide my perspective. Last time I checked, both Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press are alive-and-well, as far as we Americans are concerned, albeit slander and libel should be expressly omitted from these given freedoms, don’t you think?</p>
<p>Get on with life (they say it’s too short to be miserable) – and don’t be the little pinprick that tries to burst my bubble…I’ve probably done more notable things in the past decade than you’ve done in your entire lifetime, pal.</p>
<p> <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 11:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post seems like one big advertisement for - you guessed it - DAVE SATTERFIELD!  Hopefully soon we can here from others about his great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post seems like one big advertisement for &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; DAVE SATTERFIELD!  Hopefully soon we can here from others about his great work.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsatisfied LG DACOM Victim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unsatisfied LG DACOM Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 10:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the contractor/SOFA/visa issues that I&#039;ve heard of have been, to one degree or another, the result of the individual contractor being careless in their initial hiring and visa-acquiring actions.  Sure, it doesn&#039;t seem like CCK was enforcing standards properly, but many of the contractors were obviously taking advantage of CCK&#039;s shortcomings with little regard for either the possible outcome or the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the contractor/SOFA/visa issues that I&#8217;ve heard of have been, to one degree or another, the result of the individual contractor being careless in their initial hiring and visa-acquiring actions.  Sure, it doesn&#8217;t seem like CCK was enforcing standards properly, but many of the contractors were obviously taking advantage of CCK&#8217;s shortcomings with little regard for either the possible outcome or the law.</p>
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