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		<title>By: Leon LaPorte</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2007/10/11/israel-upset-about-nazi-bar-in-seoul/comment-page-2/#comment-408686</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon LaPorte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#65 just put a url under &quot;website&quot; when you submit a cooment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#65 just put a url under &quot;website&quot; when you submit a cooment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 06:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where is the times article on the rising sun shoes and other footwear from vans and the nike jordan 12 rising sun shoes or the random rising sun clothing you can find in a skateboard shops?  
 
vans smartly never offered the shoes in korea but if you happened to purchase the shoes in the united states or europe you received your kicks in a box decorated with the japanese imperial flag. the shoes itself had the japanese imperial flag on the outside with the sun on the heel. 
 
nike stupidly tried to release their shoes in korea. the outside was pretty ambiguous and one would have needed an imagination to link the japanese imperial flag with the shoes but the soles were a different story in that they were boldly decorated with the japanese imperial flag. korean shoe lovers quickly orgnaized a boycott against nike causing nike to pull the shoes and figure out what they did wrong. the shoes were pulled worldwide but not before several had already been sold. the shoes were rereleased a couple months later with a plain white sole. these are the air jordan 12 retro rising sun. 
 
point? in asia the japanese imperial flag brings up such emotions as hatred, despair, anger, etc. the nazi flag brings about curiosity. in europe and north america the nazi flag brings up hatred, despair, anger, etc. the japanese imperial flag brings about curiosity. south america probably doesnt give a rats ass about either flag. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where is the times article on the rising sun shoes and other footwear from vans and the nike jordan 12 rising sun shoes or the random rising sun clothing you can find in a skateboard shops? </p>
<p>vans smartly never offered the shoes in korea but if you happened to purchase the shoes in the united states or europe you received your kicks in a box decorated with the japanese imperial flag. the shoes itself had the japanese imperial flag on the outside with the sun on the heel.</p>
<p>nike stupidly tried to release their shoes in korea. the outside was pretty ambiguous and one would have needed an imagination to link the japanese imperial flag with the shoes but the soles were a different story in that they were boldly decorated with the japanese imperial flag. korean shoe lovers quickly orgnaized a boycott against nike causing nike to pull the shoes and figure out what they did wrong. the shoes were pulled worldwide but not before several had already been sold. the shoes were rereleased a couple months later with a plain white sole. these are the air jordan 12 retro rising sun.</p>
<p>point? in asia the japanese imperial flag brings up such emotions as hatred, despair, anger, etc. the nazi flag brings about curiosity. in europe and north america the nazi flag brings up hatred, despair, anger, etc. the japanese imperial flag brings about curiosity. south america probably doesnt give a rats ass about either flag.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51, South Korea and Israel are expanding their economic ties, not shutting them off. Recently, South Korea bought Israel&#039;s Green Pine radar system and is considering buying Israel&#039;s missiles. Israel is considering buying South Korea&#039;s fighter jets. Korean Air expanded service into Israel. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51, South Korea and Israel are expanding their economic ties, not shutting them off. Recently, South Korea bought Israel&#039;s Green Pine radar system and is considering buying Israel&#039;s missiles. Israel is considering buying South Korea&#039;s fighter jets. Korean Air expanded service into Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Glans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 23:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon LaPorte 65, I appreciate your support.  Eventually my comment got through the filter unscathed.  It was Glans 63, and it emerged with its correct timestamp, i.e. two minutes before Glans 64.  Can you see any reason why the filter hesitated over Glans 63? 
 
BTW, how do you make your name a link? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon LaPorte 65, I appreciate your support.  Eventually my comment got through the filter unscathed.  It was Glans 63, and it emerged with its correct timestamp, i.e. two minutes before Glans 64.  Can you see any reason why the filter hesitated over Glans 63?</p>
<p>BTW, how do you make your name a link?</p>
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		<title>By: Leon LaPorte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon LaPorte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#63 Filter pwned!  :razz:  
 
ALWAYS copy your comment before submitting. You might need to paste and edit it several times before you defeat the filter. 
 
&lt;i&gt;/PRO TIP: When my name is a link, it sometimes leads to an interesting or related subject about the post(s).&lt;/i&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#63 Filter pwned!  <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>ALWAYS copy your comment before submitting. You might need to paste and edit it several times before you defeat the filter.</p>
<p><i>/PRO TIP: When my name is a link, it sometimes leads to an interesting or related subject about the post(s).</i></p>
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		<title>By: Glans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I say something bad?  My comment got filtered.   :cry: </description>
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		<title>By: Glans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChickenHead 61, since this is a K blog, we should emphasize one point:  the Union of Soviet Socialist &quot;Republics&quot;, jointly with the &quot;People&#039;s Republic&quot; of China, approved the decision by the &quot;Democratic People&#039;s Republic&quot; of Korea to start the Korean War. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChickenHead 61, since this is a K blog, we should emphasize one point:  the Union of Soviet Socialist &quot;Republics&quot;, jointly with the &quot;People&#039;s Republic&quot; of China, approved the decision by the &quot;Democratic People&#039;s Republic&quot; of Korea to start the Korean War.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon LaPorte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon LaPorte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one death is a tragedy a million is a statistic </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one death is a tragedy a million is a statistic</p>
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		<title>By: Glans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 08:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChickenHead 52 and 53 says, &quot;you do realize that the Soviet Union’s murder and genocide statistics exceed Hitler’s.&quot;  Timothy Snyder, author of &quot;Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin&quot;, discussed this subject recently at nybooks. He says:
&quot;All in all, the Germans deliberately killed about 11 million noncombatants, a figure that rises to more than 12 million if foreseeable deaths from deportation, hunger, and sentences in concentration camps are included. For the Soviets during the Stalin period, the analogous figures are approximately six million and nine million.&quot;

I recommend the entire article.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2011/jan/27/hitler-vs-stalin-who-was-worse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Who was worse?&lt;/a&gt;

Some day, I hope to get around to reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://bloodlandsbook.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the book&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChickenHead 52 and 53 says, &#8220;you do realize that the Soviet Union’s murder and genocide statistics exceed Hitler’s.&#8221;  Timothy Snyder, author of &#8220;Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin&#8221;, discussed this subject recently at nybooks. He says:<br />
&#8220;All in all, the Germans deliberately killed about 11 million noncombatants, a figure that rises to more than 12 million if foreseeable deaths from deportation, hunger, and sentences in concentration camps are included. For the Soviets during the Stalin period, the analogous figures are approximately six million and nine million.&#8221;</p>
<p>I recommend the entire article.<br />
<a href="http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2011/jan/27/hitler-vs-stalin-who-was-worse/" rel="nofollow">Who was worse?</a></p>
<p>Some day, I hope to get around to reading <a href="http://bloodlandsbook.com/" rel="nofollow">the book</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ChickenHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChickenHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 05:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glans, 
 
That is an interesting article. 
 
His estimates really are the lowest around, though.   
 
Others write just as convincingly for 60 million. 
 
There is no real agreement among historians... and their numbers are too often shaded by their politics. 
 
Fifteen to twenty million seems to be a reasonable estimate if you include the famine-on-purpose in Ukraine... and consider that, for political reasons, it is accepted that some records of deaths were intentionally not kept. 
  
You my have noticed, however, that I hedged when I said, &#8220;you do realize that the SOVIET UNION&#039;S murder and genocide statistics exceed Hitler&#8217;s.&#8221;    
 
...once again proving that people think they read what they want to have read. 
 
None-the-less, I hope you didn&#039;t post this to make the point that Soviet-theme bars and fashion are acceptable while Nazi-theme bars and fashion are not simply because Hitler killed a couple million people more. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glans,</p>
<p>That is an interesting article.</p>
<p>His estimates really are the lowest around, though.  </p>
<p>Others write just as convincingly for 60 million.</p>
<p>There is no real agreement among historians&#8230; and their numbers are too often shaded by their politics.</p>
<p>Fifteen to twenty million seems to be a reasonable estimate if you include the famine-on-purpose in Ukraine&#8230; and consider that, for political reasons, it is accepted that some records of deaths were intentionally not kept.</p>
<p>You my have noticed, however, that I hedged when I said, &ldquo;you do realize that the SOVIET UNION&#039;S murder and genocide statistics exceed Hitler&rsquo;s.&rdquo;   </p>
<p>&#8230;once again proving that people think they read what they want to have read.</p>
<p>None-the-less, I hope you didn&#039;t post this to make the point that Soviet-theme bars and fashion are acceptable while Nazi-theme bars and fashion are not simply because Hitler killed a couple million people more.</p>
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