By Another 8th Army personnel clerk has found herself in trouble:
An 8th Army staff sergeant was found guilty Wednesday of lying about having a college degree, conspiring with her husband to get promoted early, and then stealing the extra money she earned from her inflated rank.
Nekeda Gundy, 23, was court-martialed for telling officials she had gotten an associates degree online from Florida A&M University to increase her promotion points, and having her husband, Staff Sgt. Andre Gundy, 26, change her military test scores in an electronic database. Prosecutors said the Gundys together illegally earned almost $4,500 by Aug. 2007 because of the early promotions, and Nekeda Gundy earned almost $2,000 of that amount. [Stars & Stripes]
Now look at what she ended up getting sentenced to:
An 8th Army soldier Thursday lost more than the rank she was convicted of stealing.
However, Staff Sgt. Nekeda Gundy dodged a bad-conduct discharge.
An audible sigh — and several exclamations of “Praise Jesus” — passed through the audience when the head of the six-member court-martial panel read Gundy’s sentence: reduction in rank to private first class, forfeiture of one month’s pay of $1,152, a fine of $2,500 and 45 days restriction.
Gundy was convicted of larceny, conspiracy and making false official statements during a general court-martial on Wednesday.
After the trial Gundy, 23, said she was happy with the sentence, and still hopes to make the Army a career. [Stars & Stripes]
This is what kind of upsets me about these NCOs. They were in a position of trust and responsibility and they abused it to promote themselves and to fraud the government out of money. Only the first NCO has gone to trial so we still have to wait to see what will happen to the second one, but I find it interesting that the jury is going to allow someone like the convicted NCO to stay in the Army.
Take for example all the people convicted of Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) fraud in USFK. In the most recent case the staff sergeant convicted of BAH fraud cheated the government out of $2,600 which is less than what the personnel clerks above cheated the government. However, for simple BAH fraud that included no conspiracy between two people in a position of trust, the staff sergeant was given a bad conduct discharge and sentenced to prison for six months. There have been prior cases of BAH fraud where the person has been sentenced for one year in prison. Another example is a staff sergeant that conspired to steal AER money and he was given a bad conduct discharge and sentenced to a year in prison.
The promotion scam is just as fraudulent as the other cases yet the personnel clerk receives a slap on the wrist. Why is that you may ask? It is because she has two kids and is five months pregnant. I have seen this before where people get off easy because the person or people rendering judgment don’t want to punish the kids for the indiscretions of the parents. The military justice systems renders punishment case by case and criminals with families often receive lighter punishment and this is an obvious example of it.
9:59 am on October 29th, 2007 1
According to all those AFN commercials the UCMJ is the best form of justice out there.
10:45 am on October 29th, 2007 2
I tend to agree because the serious criminals get sent away for a long time compared to people committing similar crimes in the US. Plus there has been a number of people such as the Haditha Marines and LT Pantano who were convicted of war crimes in the media but once they went to trial were found not guilty which they were which proves the system works.
2:20 pm on October 29th, 2007 3
Inconsistent punishment breeds discontent in the ranks. She should have gotten at least a bad conduct discharge. It’s as bad as or worse that favoritism.
When I was a junior in Germany awhile back, our CO talked about how anyone who got a DUI would be out of the service. Then and E-5 in the orderly room got a DUI – on the autobahn! Article 15 with a suspended reduction to E-4. Everyone, except maybe the E-5 with the DUI, lost all respect for that Major. Some junior enlisted got flamed for lesser violations (though some got off with a slap or the wrist for some the same – an example of inconsistency). There was no trust, expectation of fairness, or respect for that CO.
10:41 pm on October 29th, 2007 4
The inconsistent punishment from what I have seen is simply from different people getting in trouble having varying sob stories. If a single soldier with no children had done this crime that soldier would have been slammed.
However from my experience it appears juries more so than judges can be affected by emotional pleas from people in trouble to not punish their families for their indiscretions.
This NCO should have been booted from the Army and instead received a slap on the wrist and will make her NCO rank back in no time. How does everyone in the Army feel about having her responsible for your paper work?
1:32 am on October 30th, 2007 5
Hey, GI…
I understand not wanting to "punish the children" for the actions of the parent by an empathetic judge or jury. I can even understand if they are swayed by echoes of "praise Jesus" or a few tears.
…but isn't there something really, really crappy that a judge can do to punish the offender? Demote her to being in charge of cleaning toilets or digging holes for a year? Something so incredibly irritating or difficult that everyone on posts talks about it for years to come?
J!
7:18 pm on October 30th, 2007 6
I’d force them to move out of their command sponsored off-post mansion into government quarters on Hannam Village and take away their joint domicile privileges, but then I’d get investigated for EO and end up with a relief for cause.
Hmmmm….
4:25 pm on October 31st, 2007 7
[...] a side note compare the punishment for the NCO for lying on her housing form compared to the NCO I profiled earlier this week, who conspired with her husband to forge her promotion to staff sergeant and fraud the government [...]
1:14 pm on November 4th, 2007 8
[...] agree with GI at ROK Drop who wrote- This is what kind of upsets me about these NCOs. They were in a position of trust and [...]
9:34 pm on November 6th, 2007 9
The husband of the matter was my NCO. When i first found out about this I was schocked. Im not saying what they did was right im just saying they were the frist to get caught. I will say this though! I also was a personnel clerk at 516th PSB. I've undated SFC,1SG and SGM records and i've seen the same stuff on there records. Awards, Schools, Degrees and a number of other things were false. I know when the system switched over to eMILPO some of there documents were back dated to 1900 but not all of them. I've seen awards and schools back dated to the same dates. Thats impossible to complete two totally diffrent schools at the same time. This isn't something new and if some of them SGM and 1SG are investigated you will find the same things are happening.I myself wouldn't have done it. To me they aren't bad people i worked for him for a year. They both went to BNCOC together and they are hard chargers. He kept me out of trouble and had my back when nobody else did! I respect him for that. Not what he did but for the type of person he was. He is an awsome soldier and so is she.
2:50 am on November 7th, 2007 10
I agree EX_GI_Joe. Cheating on promotion points has been going on forever. The Army Correspondence Course Program used to be the easiest thing to cheat on. I wonder how many senior NCO's got promoted on false ACCP records. I would imagine quite a few…
3:31 am on November 7th, 2007 11
I get it.
The system is designed so honest soldiers with integrity get out-promoted by lying shytbags… and the lying shytbags at the top perpetuate the system.
…well… that explains a lot.
10:28 am on November 7th, 2007 12
BAH fraud has been going on for a long time as well and nobody seems to making excuses for the people that do it, so I see no excuse for what they did either and should be punished similarly.
12:51 pm on November 9th, 2007 13
Yup, people used to trade ACCP records all the time. They'd make a photocopy, cut out and tape their student information over top of the other person's record, make another copy, and then turn it in for promotion points. It happened all the time.
By the way, I'm not making excuses for their behavior. It's unethical as hell and should not be tolerated. I was merely pointing out that promotion point scams have been going on for a long time.
9:18 pm on February 28th, 2008 14
i know this guy, he is a real a-hole. he is one of those types that know everything and sees everything. The type that is always talking and always lying about who and what he feels he is. Trust me if you served with him you would know this is his M.O. He had a good 1sg and he is a 12 minute 2 mile guy, I'm sure that helped. Why do I bring this up? Because it seems that as long as you look the part leaders will take up for you, despite the fact they know you are not worth spit. It's about image. He will be a NCO in no time and a SGM down the road. I hope that part time New Yorker remembers that when one day in the future he has some young NCO head on the chopping block………..but knowing him, he won't.
11:55 pm on February 28th, 2008 15
If the guilty pair learned their lesson, it'll be good for 'em to stay in the service… Otherwise, well, at least they'll have "adult supervision"…
12:55 pm on April 5th, 2008 16
When will the Army punish all the cheaters in this scam? They are easy to identify and are just out there laughing at the honest soldiers while counting there ill-gotten promotion money all the way to the bank. How many good soldiers have been cheated out of promotions by those who engage in promotion fraud? It is worse than BAH fraud in that way but both are ugly. If the system does not go after these miscreants than where does this stop? Just do the right thing and go after the bad guys. Painful but necessary.
11:00 am on March 9th, 2009 17
I know of a solier that got the fake degree from Belford pushed it thru his packet and went to warrent afficer school and got promoted. He never went to that school he just paid the money to get his B.A. and GPA. How sick is that… Then and now boasting about how he got away with it and the military wont find out unless he is snitched on and he siad there is no way of anyone knowning who to call to turn him in because he is now an Comm Officer. How sick is that? How does one get caught and others don't? Frauding the government is the worst.
11:41 am on March 9th, 2009 18
I agree with Dotherightthing, in that the fact that these cheaters got promoted also means they took a slot that could have went to an honest Soldier. The Army's enlisted promotion system sucks anyway, benefitting those who look out for themselves rather than those who put the Army's interests first. Don't get me started.
9:58 am on January 22nd, 2011 19
Look ya'll lets all be honest here. The majority of people I have known that have gotten promoted in the army had to cheat or they would have never made the rank. The rank system is flawed and NCO's and I dont mean Sgt's I mean top guys are the culprits because they hand the answers to their soldiers. I have had the priviledge of serving under some bad ass nco's who if not for them cheatin on their accp I may have never gotten to where I am today and maybe not made it out of combat. Should they be punished? yes of course but my point is dont make it sound like it is all the soldier's fault because I do believe all of us know what really goes on in the army so stop acting so damn pious if the military promoted off of merits on how you perform your job we would not have this retarded problem and nobody could cheat plain and simple. I am not condoning such behavior just think about what you are calling people when you are doing so and maybe look a tthe leadership instead that allowed this to happen
4:38 pm on February 12th, 2012 20
I was sitting at my computer Googling my name, and decided to just go ahead and reply to some of this foolishness out here.
1. I didn’t fake my promotion packet, nor did my husband “give” me promotion points. When E-MILPO changed over all of the schools and information dates changed to 1900. Its amazing how my records were fraud because my husband updated my dates to the correct dates.
2. The only part of my packet that was even questionable was my college education. I admit that. But it was not my intention, I didn’t know that the conversion from the site was fraudulant. But I take responsibility for that. In hinesite-I should have known better and I apologized because at the end of the day it was wrong. period.
3. I have ALWAYS scored 250 or above on my PT Test
4. I have ALWAYS shot high sharpshooter or expert
5. I have ALWAYS maxed out my promotion board, Soldier of the month boards, Soldier of the quarter boards, AG Solider board.
So my actually soldiering is not the issue.
Here are some more facts for you:
I told the truth about the ACCP courses. Everyone has passed the ACCP book around with the answers. But by the time that I got the book. I was over 3/4 done with the hours needed to MAX out the courses. Not only that. I did way more than the amount required for promotion. And because it was done for years and passed down from SNCOs to JNCOs, I passed it down to my Soldiers. But what kind of coward would I be to throw the dozens of Soldiers I helped under the bus?? I can take this one for the team.
At the the time of this investigation I was working for LTG Valcourt as an administrative assistant, during the investigation to clear his own name, he illegally received a copy of the ongoing investigation and had already given me a very bad NCOER that included comments from this “unreleased” report and relived me. How did he get it? He was the CDR of the installation, can you say pulling rank.
Because he had already given me an NCOER that pretty much marked me as guilty prior to the investigation being complete using material that was not supposed to be released to any one outside of CID, 8th ARMY as a whole from the CDR down was given a gag order for the Gundys to be guilty. We were told that numerous times. I mean how could he go back on his word now? You cant say I forged that? It was digitally signed. When asked about it they denied it, their copies of the NCOER disappeared, but guess what? Mine didn’t. Read your regs, we all know that you can’t use information in an NCOER that is said to be factual and it’s not. Also the NCOER was suppressed to be entered into evidence, I wonder why. Now let’s play the covering our tracks game…………………..
After I left Korea I was sent information from one of the jurors that stated that they had been given instructions from the prosecution prior “to lets make this quick,so that you all can go home, guilty” Everyone on my jury was supposed to be neutral, But surprisingly everyone was from my unit the 8th army, they were hand picked and guess who the commander is?
Again LTG Valcourt.
Out of all of the units in Korea, there was not one Juror from another USFK unit. How is that fair? As big as Korea is, every Juror was from Yongsan. Is that fair and impartial. Everyone here already knew what was going on. How about let’s get a Juror from another command? 8 jurors and all of them from Yongsan. Don’t we have Soldiers in Pusan, Daegu, Osan, Humphreys, just to name a few? Isn’t that odd?
Another fact:
I was found not guilty for my awards being fraudulent despite what the newspaper said. Alot of my awards were awarded prior to my active duty service. I was in the reserves prior. The prosecution said that they were fake too. But I was not guilty on that….They made no attempt to find out the sources of my awards.
Another fact: Some of the awards that they said were “fake” for husband-there were numerous witnesses who appeared to testify either recommended the awards or processed the award recommendation.
The light sentence was told to the jury prior to sentencing also. Do not send us to jail and do not kick us out of the Army. Reason being- All other than honorable discharges and jail sentencing automatically go to the Supreme court of appeals, and the prosecution knew that with all of the non-sense evidence that they had. IT WOULD SURELY BE OVER TURNED. Which equals a loss and an embarrassment to the 8th Army command.
Not to mention, the CID agent who investigated the case, didn’t even consult with an EMILPO chief, we brought that witness in. He didn’t call the website used, request for them to be a part of the trial. When we did, it was denied. The CID agent said in court that I took the ASVAP over because of promotion.. Really? Last time I checked that was not a requirement in my promotion package. He also stated that I was using the scores to go warrant? Really? Where is that package? As a matter of fact, I had just declined to re-enlist.
So where I am today:
I stayed in the Army another couple of years, and yes I made my rank back, and guess what I bet you nothing there could be fake, huh? Still appeared before the board had points shaved off because of my record!! Still maxed my PT, Still maxed the range, and redid my correspondence courses the right way, in front of my new squad leader and maxed that also. Enrolled in school and went full time in conjunction with being in the military full time. I was determined to clear my name. And those people who know me, know that this was all a point to prove because of where I worked.
I have a beautiful family, a good conduct discharged, was begged to stay in the army-Yes because I am a GOOD Solider.
I also thank all of the understanding people around me that KNOW that this was foolishness and that I was to be made an example of.
Side note- After I made a big fuss after my demotion they looked into a couple of other SGMs, CSMs, and other SNCOs files to verify their college and guess what? They all did the same thing, used the same website, and guess what happened to them? Nothing not even a letter of reprimand. With them it was “Just a misunderstanding, the website is defrauding, not the Soldier’s.”
As a matter of fact, one of the CSM’s that I am speaking about was the CSM over PLDC at the time. Oops did I say that, I sure did!!!
Thank you for your time and for those who know me on this blog, thank you for defending me and upholding my name. I could have made a career out of the Army, but I chose to leave. I chose to leave my guaranteed 1st and 15th check, with 10 felonies on my civilian record, determined to give my family better life, because I know that I am better than what this conviction made me out to be.
5:00 pm on February 12th, 2012 21
youknowme- The last time that I checked running a 12min/2mile was actually leading the way and not looking the part. I mean he didn’t fake his PT test did he? Oh no cause you were there to see that with your eyes.
EX_GI_Joe- Thank you for standing up for us. Everyone that actually knew us, knew that something like this was out of character. Despite the bad talk, we made our rank back, and got out with pride. Just to prove a point.
Mark- What mansion? Never invited anyone to our home but soldier’s who were in jeopardy of breaking curfew, to drunk to make it back on post, or soldier’s who needed time away from there spouse? The only way you knew where I lived was if you were in one of those categories. We never invited friends to our home nor did we have any parties or get togethers. So??? and lets talk about that. I was the NCOIC of the Command Sponsorship program for three years. Before I took the position, no one under the 19th ESC could bring their families to Korea if they were a CPT or below, or a SFC or below. Period In my three years, I stood strong to fight for Soldiers to be able to bring there families to the ROK I configured numerous exeption to the policy packets for CPT’s, LT’s and JNCOs and also jr soldiers to bring their families to Korea. Because I felt as though SR personnel are not the only ones with families. and that this privilege should be based on position continuity. And alot of jr positions need more continuity than alot of sr positions did. So take that to EO!!
5:19 pm on February 12th, 2012 22
When the general was accepting gifts from Korea nationals telling me to not track the gift in the tracker and don’t give it to the MWR as regulation states? Gold watches, Gold Crowns, Money, watches, cameras all disappeared AFTER I locked them in a safe? Taking gifts from different companies that were in Bid for military contracts even though that is against regulation? Or what about the numerous weekend reports that I placed on the LTGs desk for Officers getting DUIs off post and just ordered to pay the KN police to keep it under raps? While I was his assistant the CDR of the hospital at the time got a DUI off post. It was his THIRD one. But that wasn’t in the news? Or what about the SGM of the 8th army G1 with improper relations and sexual comments towards his JR soldiers. No action either. CSM Wheeler gave him a but chewing and sent him on his way. I said this just to say, I had never been in trouble the entire 8 years I was in the military until this. Never a negative counseling statement and always superior NCOERs. I excelled in every NCO school, period. What I did was an honest mistake, and one that I have to live with for the rest of my life. So it’s easy for you all sitting on the outside looking in, because you have no real insight of our situation.
7:31 pm on February 12th, 2012 23
Oh no. What you are saying is COMPLETELY plausible.
And it needs to be looked at more. Much more. Have you contacted your congressman? Did you document the wrongdoing?
10:10 pm on February 12th, 2012 24
Nekada,
You should have done what Lt. Jason Davis did.
You should have threatened to go very public with the high-level USFK corruption you saw.
Your scandal would have gone away before it started… and you would never have made the papers. You might have even been counted in on a deal or two to insure you kept silent.
For those who pushed you down and closed ranks behind you while they did far worse things, did you put any thought into writing up some of the actions you saw in more detail… and releasing it to the public.
At the least, it might positively influence the thinking of “leadership” before they start involving themselves in the corruption that too often hurts those not engaged in it… and, such as in your case, heavily punishes minor offenders to deflect attention from serious wrongdoing.
Good luck.
1:59 am on February 13th, 2012 25
What you did was wrong but i commend you for realizing your mistakes and learning from them. However, …….you should have gone down with both guns blazing if you had info of a corrupt senior leader.
5:25 pm on February 13th, 2012 26
Really I worked my azz off for promotion and it was slow going but I did everything right and never cheated. But i have to compete with People like this. This is why i retired. I have no sympathy for your conviction, but I congratulate you on overcoming the obstacles in your way. Everyone needs a second chance at some point. False hoods The 3 star did not write, sen rate or evaluate your NCOER. He was not in you rating chain. All the units in Daegue, Pyongtech are 8th Army. There is very little that is only USFK/ but 8th Army is USFK. If you were a SSG you should know that makes me question how you got ur rank back. You had a positve with the sentencing because no matter how you look at it you cheated. You are not the only one and no one owes you even a comment about other parties. I guess you missed that one also. Enjoy your family and look at the silver lining you should have done time like everyone else who cheats the government out of money. You husband should have also done time as he was a SSG and I know he cheated as well. Your children would be orphans and u2 all jacked up so be happy with the way it ended and stop defending yourself your name is already crap.
6:37 pm on February 13th, 2012 27
Bubba
What part of I worked directly for the LTG didn’t you understand. Yes he was in my rating chain, he was actually my Senior rater and the USFK Commander General Bell was my reviewer. I was his ADMIN ASSISTANT. Not that I worked in his ADMIN OFFICE. I was the one that set his home up for functions. I was the one who managed his drivers, cooks, assisted his wife, did his grocery shopping with his cook. So he was my DIRECT SUPERVISOR, next to his Chief of Staff. LTC Miller. Done talking about that because obviously don’t know what you are talking about. And obviously in your 20 years you have either never worked in a SR position on that particular level and didn’t have an understanding of how the chain of command worked.
And again your 20 years in the military taught you nothing, because all units in Korea are not 8th army. For example none of the signal units down in Daegu fell under 8th army. That’s just one unit. I lived in Daegu and worked for General McHale for 3 years. I know the area and the units well.
I didn’t cheat the army on purpose and to be honest I owe no further response to anyone. I just felt as though almost 5 years later that I wanted to let people know my side of the story. If you feel as though my name is crap, do me a favor AND STOP READING IT AND BETTER YET DONT RESPOND. Because evidently I am a relevant factor in your mind for you to take time out of your lovely life to write back.
And as far as my children being orphans, never that hun. Too many family and friends for that.
I didn’t make SSG back I made SGT back. And every NCO on FT Stewart scrutinized my promotion packet to the fullest. Like I said before I didn’t cheat anything, I was misled, but I take FULL responsibility for that. Period. It’s people like you, you make it hard for people in life. You act like you have NEVER done ANYTHING in your life that was a mistake or questionable. Please Sir, Spare me that foolishness.
At the end of the day, I am not going to disrespect you or even cross any further words with you because everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
May God continue to bless you and keep you and your family in perfect peace:)
Nekeda Gundy
10:20 pm on February 13th, 2012 28
Let me get this right…. You worked for two generals in two consecutive tours?
How did you nail those assignments?
Were you even working in your MOS?
How did this start to fall apart on you? If you are working for a GO and do a tolerable job, you can usually write your own ticket from there…
10:23 pm on February 13th, 2012 29
Which US Army units in Korea do not fall under Eighth Army?
11:31 pm on February 13th, 2012 30
Vince asked:
Executive Administrative Assistant is an additional skill identifier for the Administrative Specialist MOS. If you do a good job after getting that skill identifier – you can continue working for General officers for several consecutive assignments.
12:30 am on February 14th, 2012 31
So– you should be able to write you own ticket pretty much then, provided you do an acceptable job.
I had one of those gals call me up one time (not this one- this was YEARS ago) and she got snotty with me and pulled the “Do you know who I am?” routine with me. I think she worked for the CSM at USFK or something… I do remember laughing and hanging up on her.
Phone games…
Ah youth!
1:15 am on February 14th, 2012 32
CSMs don’t have executive assistants – only GOs (maybe some COLs). That must have been some SPC that THOUGHT she was a executive assistant.
2:51 am on February 14th, 2012 33
I’m pretty sure the EUSA/CFC/USFK CSM’s office has some kind-of ‘handler’ – had to deal with this person a few times back in the day. Don’t ‘super’-senior CSMs (such as those who work for multiple-star GOs) have these assistants? Maybe they don’t officially call it an executive assistant, but I know -somebody- works for them and handles their schedule, etc…
3:00 am on February 14th, 2012 34
Oh sure – CSMs got someone. But it’s not a 42L Administrative Specialist with the additional skill identifier.
3:46 am on February 14th, 2012 35
rare to find a competent admin person, of a certain demographics.
5:07 am on February 14th, 2012 36
Vince
My MOS was 42A and we go have an identifier that qualifies us to work in Executive Admin positions. It’s just another field that we can work in. I was interviewed for the position working for LTG Valcourt when I was working in the G1 for General McHale. I was moved to Seoul for this position. I didn’t just get this as an assignment. Those positions have to be interviewed for. You don’t just come on orders for those assignment. And actually taking an Ex Admin position as a Human Resource Specialist is actually a downgrade because that job is mostly filled by the old 71Ls before they were converted into 42A. Hope that answered your question.
5:12 am on February 14th, 2012 37
Vince:
In a court martial proceeding it is not only limited to Army personnel. Anyone that was under the UCMJ could have sat on the the juror panel. This is what was so upseting. But just to answer part of your question. 2ID doesn’t fall up under 8th Army. And the signal command is stove piped directly from DA.
6:38 am on February 14th, 2012 38
OK- never saw it explained that way before (EUSA org’n).
As for the exec asst gig- that must have been a real eye opener.
Sounds like you might have seen quite a bit- and you still might want to let someone know about it.
8:51 am on February 14th, 2012 39
I’m jealous because I chose the wrong career path in the service…
10:22 am on February 14th, 2012 40
Just to set the record straight on units…..there are several units that don’t fall directly under 8th Army. They are called stove pipe units and fall under other commands, ie: the hospital falls under MEDCOM, MI falls under INSCOM, 1st SIG falls under 311th SIG CMD and on to NETCOM…..all are GO billets outside Korea. However, for operational control all are under 8th Army….weird kinda mom and dad thing. As for court martial panels…..each Area has court martial authority held by the GO in that area. The pool of NCOs and Officers selected for duty is based on what area they are stationed. Trust me I know, Area 1 made me sign papers acknowledging I could be called for duty. Then I had to show orders going to Area 2 to be removed. Then Area 2 made me sign up for their program…..lol. Not sure what the regs say but everyone that i know has gone through the same process…..lol
3:37 pm on March 18th, 2012 41
Plenty of NCOs have taught their Soldiers how to game the system (not saying you did). When I was in Daegu you seemed to be a pretty good NCO. Your husband, not so much. The male Soldiers were not really fans of me, female Soldiers fault I guess. All of this mayhem must have happened after I left. Oh, well. Hopefully your family is doing well.
If this is the real Nekeda Gundy. You should not be worried about comments from 3 years ago. Let it go and move on.
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