Comments on: Soldier Guilty of Promotion Scam

By: billnrealin

billnrealin — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:58:12 +0000

Look ya'll lets all be honest here. The majority of people I have known that have gotten promoted in the army had to cheat or they would have never made the rank. The rank system is flawed and NCO's and I dont mean Sgt's I mean top guys are the culprits because they hand the answers to their soldiers. I have had the priviledge of serving under some bad ass nco's who if not for them cheatin on their accp I may have never gotten to where I am today and maybe not made it out of combat. Should they be punished? yes of course but my point is dont make it sound like it is all the soldier's fault because I do believe all of us know what really goes on in the army so stop acting so damn pious if the military promoted off of merits on how you perform your job we would not have this retarded problem and nobody could cheat plain and simple. I am not condoning such behavior just think about what you are calling people when you are doing so and maybe look a tthe leadership instead that allowed this to happen

By: Silentgrayfellow

Silentgrayfellow — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:41:38 +0000

I agree with Dotherightthing, in that the fact that these cheaters got promoted also means they took a slot that could have went to an honest Soldier. The Army's enlisted promotion system sucks anyway, benefitting those who look out for themselves rather than those who put the Army's interests first. Don't get me started.

By: Kristina

Kristina — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:00:55 +0000

I know of a solier that got the fake degree from Belford pushed it thru his packet and went to warrent afficer school and got promoted. He never went to that school he just paid the money to get his B.A. and GPA. How sick is that… Then and now boasting about how he got away with it and the military wont find out unless he is snitched on and he siad there is no way of anyone knowning who to call to turn him in because he is now an Comm Officer. How sick is that? How does one get caught and others don't? Frauding the government is the worst.

By: dotherightthing

dotherightthing — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:55:54 +0000

When will the Army punish all the cheaters in this scam? They are easy to identify and are just out there laughing at the honest soldiers while counting there ill-gotten promotion money all the way to the bank. How many good soldiers have been cheated out of promotions by those who engage in promotion fraud? It is worse than BAH fraud in that way but both are ugly. If the system does not go after these miscreants than where does this stop? Just do the right thing and go after the bad guys. Painful but necessary.

By: jtb

jtb — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:55:27 +0000

If the guilty pair learned their lesson, it'll be good for 'em to stay in the service… Otherwise, well, at least they'll have "adult supervision"…

By: youknowme

youknowme — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:18:08 +0000

i know this guy, he is a real a-hole. he is one of those types that know everything and sees everything. The type that is always talking and always lying about who and what he feels he is. Trust me if you served with him you would know this is his M.O. He had a good 1sg and he is a 12 minute 2 mile guy, I'm sure that helped. Why do I bring this up? Because it seems that as long as you look the part leaders will take up for you, despite the fact they know you are not worth spit. It's about image. He will be a NCO in no time and a SGM down the road. I hope that part time New Yorker remembers that when one day in the future he has some young NCO head on the chopping block………..but knowing him, he won't.

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:51:47 +0000

Yup, people used to trade ACCP records all the time. They'd make a photocopy, cut out and tape their student information over top of the other person's record, make another copy, and then turn it in for promotion points. It happened all the time.

By the way, I'm not making excuses for their behavior. It's unethical as hell and should not be tolerated. I was merely pointing out that promotion point scams have been going on for a long time.

By: GI Korea

GI Korea — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:28:23 +0000

BAH fraud has been going on for a long time as well and nobody seems to making excuses for the people that do it, so I see no excuse for what they did either and should be punished similarly.

By: ChickenHead

ChickenHead — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:31:45 +0000

I get it.

The system is designed so honest soldiers with integrity get out-promoted by lying shytbags… and the lying shytbags at the top perpetuate the system.

…well… that explains a lot.

By: Rob

Rob — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:50:59 +0000

I agree EX_GI_Joe. Cheating on promotion points has been going on forever. The Army Correspondence Course Program used to be the easiest thing to cheat on. I wonder how many senior NCO's got promoted on false ACCP records. I would imagine quite a few…