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		<title>By: Eco-loon Dutch Diplomat Abandons Korean Daughter - ROK Drop via MySpace News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eco-loon Dutch Diplomat Abandons Korean Daughter - ROK Drop via MySpace News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hilarious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilarious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 18:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter freakin Pan. 

You are one hilarious idiot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter freakin Pan. </p>
<p>You are one hilarious idiot!</p>
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		<title>By: Diplomat Returns Daughter After 7 Years - Dogpile Web Search</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diplomat Returns Daughter After 7 Years - Dogpile Web Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Knickerbocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knickerbocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the e-mail I sent to raymond.poeteray@minbuza.nl and hon-az@minbuza.nl:



Mr. Poeteray:

Like the rest of the world, I am outraged by your grotesque rejection of your adopted daughter. You have not only traumatized an orphan, but you have robbed her of seven crucial years of her life that might have been spent bonding with better people. Decent people.

Rest assured that I will not be the only one out there who will always remember your name.

Finally, please also know that there is a special place in hell reserved for you and your wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the e-mail I sent to <a href="mailto:raymond.poeteray@minbuza.nl">raymond.poeteray@minbuza.nl</a> and <a href="mailto:hon-az@minbuza.nl">hon-az@minbuza.nl</a>:</p>
<p>Mr. Poeteray:</p>
<p>Like the rest of the world, I am outraged by your grotesque rejection of your adopted daughter. You have not only traumatized an orphan, but you have robbed her of seven crucial years of her life that might have been spent bonding with better people. Decent people.</p>
<p>Rest assured that I will not be the only one out there who will always remember your name.</p>
<p>Finally, please also know that there is a special place in hell reserved for you and your wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Lila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in case you&#039;re all wondering, and can&#039;t read dutch. the article says that the girl at first wasn&#039;t doing well, but that she&#039;s now happy, normal, and doing well. there&#039;s absolutely nothing wrong with her. a lovely little girl. she&#039;s probably relieved to be away from those terrible people! the article also says that she speaks three languages! english, dutch and cantonese. what a smart cookie! in holland people always say, &quot;do normal.&quot; she was probably too exceptional a child, formed a threat to their own progeny, because of her excellence, and intelligence. talent isn&#039;t easily accepted in holland. it&#039;s one of the criticisms of this culture, and something they&#039;d like to change. everyone has to be &quot;normal,&quot; or average. i hope they loose their jobs. jade will find a better place to be, i&#039;m sure. certainly better than their home. the woman doesn&#039;t exactly look like an appealing mother figure. she spends too much time in the tanning salon. scary. thank goodness jade is free of them! they should have to pay child support for her until she&#039;s finished with college!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in case you&#8217;re all wondering, and can&#8217;t read dutch. the article says that the girl at first wasn&#8217;t doing well, but that she&#8217;s now happy, normal, and doing well. there&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with her. a lovely little girl. she&#8217;s probably relieved to be away from those terrible people! the article also says that she speaks three languages! english, dutch and cantonese. what a smart cookie! in holland people always say, &#8220;do normal.&#8221; she was probably too exceptional a child, formed a threat to their own progeny, because of her excellence, and intelligence. talent isn&#8217;t easily accepted in holland. it&#8217;s one of the criticisms of this culture, and something they&#8217;d like to change. everyone has to be &#8220;normal,&#8221; or average. i hope they loose their jobs. jade will find a better place to be, i&#8217;m sure. certainly better than their home. the woman doesn&#8217;t exactly look like an appealing mother figure. she spends too much time in the tanning salon. scary. thank goodness jade is free of them! they should have to pay child support for her until she&#8217;s finished with college!</p>
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		<title>By: "Could Not Adapt to Dutch Culture" at ROK Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>"Could Not Adapt to Dutch Culture" at ROK Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] details have now been released about the Dutch couple who gave back their adopted Korean daughter after being the child&#8217;s parents for seven [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Knickerbocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knickerbocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re at all curious about what the adoptive parents look like, as well as the little girl:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2762360/_Jade_het_wegwerpkind__.html

The Dutch couple is Raymond and Meta Poeteray. The girl&#039;s name is Jade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re at all curious about what the adoptive parents look like, as well as the little girl:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2762360/_Jade_het_wegwerpkind__.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2762360/_Jade_het_wegwerpkind__.html</a></p>
<p>The Dutch couple is Raymond and Meta Poeteray. The girl&#8217;s name is Jade.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please rescue my comment from the spam trap when you get a chance, GI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please rescue my comment from the spam trap when you get a chance, GI.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Pan huh?

Does this allude to your own childhood experience?  Is your anger against parents who give up their children stem from your own experience with it?

It just sounds like your bitter there Peter.  Are you also korean?  I don&#039;t see why your so bent against &quot;people in Korea&quot; when every country in the world has orphans and have put them up for adoptions.

Also i would like you to elaborate on the 1000  adoptees of korean orphans to America.  I want to see what percentage of the American Parents that are adopting korean babies or orphans are korean.  After all you have heard of L.A. koreatown?  That is the largest population of Koreans outside of South Korea.

Seriously, you need to stop hating.  If you already acknowledged that what this dutch couple has done is wrong, why do you continue this farce of an argument?

Everyone already knows its bad that people give up their kids.  its not only South Korean people that do it.  Hell i&#039;d be really interested to see how many Japanese orphans there are in Japan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Pan huh?</p>
<p>Does this allude to your own childhood experience?  Is your anger against parents who give up their children stem from your own experience with it?</p>
<p>It just sounds like your bitter there Peter.  Are you also korean?  I don&#8217;t see why your so bent against &#8220;people in Korea&#8221; when every country in the world has orphans and have put them up for adoptions.</p>
<p>Also i would like you to elaborate on the 1000  adoptees of korean orphans to America.  I want to see what percentage of the American Parents that are adopting korean babies or orphans are korean.  After all you have heard of L.A. koreatown?  That is the largest population of Koreans outside of South Korea.</p>
<p>Seriously, you need to stop hating.  If you already acknowledged that what this dutch couple has done is wrong, why do you continue this farce of an argument?</p>
<p>Everyone already knows its bad that people give up their kids.  its not only South Korean people that do it.  Hell i&#8217;d be really interested to see how many Japanese orphans there are in Japan?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But I will have to say â€™sayonaraâ€™ (a cleaver gag wasnâ€™t it â€” I get it, Iâ€™m in Japan, so you say something in Japanese right?) because you (nor a few other commenters) have proven for all your inability to read, discuss, and to be mature and do all of this without waging personal attacks and reducing yourself to profanities like a mature adult.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve criticized your reasoning and your generalizations but not you.  Please don&#039;t go before providing data to support your claim that &quot;thousands upon thousands of Koreans do the same thing.&quot; You cited statistics showing that 1,600 Korean children were adopted by US families.  This statistic implies that you make no distinction among the reasons why parents put their children up for adoption.  In other words, the parents of the 1,600 infants plus others remaining in Korea or adopted by other international families &quot;did the same thing&quot; as the Dutch couple.  You wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™m not sticking up for this couple in any way shape or form. What I am doing is calling hypocrisy for all those who attack this couple yet have nothing to say for the birth parents who gave the child up in the first place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This statement and your statistic imply strongly you think that all parents who give up children for adoption are equally wrong.  I disagree vigorously.  A single teenager got pregnant because she had unprotected sex with her boyfriend and isn&#039;t ready to be a mom is doing the child a favor by giving it up.  A couple with three children deeply in debt are making a desperate choice.  We do not condemn the birth parents because A) we do not know the reasons why they gave up the child; and B) we believe that there are some legitimate reasons for putting a child up for adoption.   If you think parents giving children for adoption is always wrong, then you will disagree with us, but that does not make us hypocrites because as I&#039;ve stated a number of times:  We do not know the circumstances of the birth parents; therefore, we cannot evaluate their decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I will have to say â€™sayonaraâ€™ (a cleaver gag wasnâ€™t it â€” I get it, Iâ€™m in Japan, so you say something in Japanese right?) because you (nor a few other commenters) have proven for all your inability to read, discuss, and to be mature and do all of this without waging personal attacks and reducing yourself to profanities like a mature adult.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve criticized your reasoning and your generalizations but not you.  Please don&#8217;t go before providing data to support your claim that &#8220;thousands upon thousands of Koreans do the same thing.&#8221; You cited statistics showing that 1,600 Korean children were adopted by US families.  This statistic implies that you make no distinction among the reasons why parents put their children up for adoption.  In other words, the parents of the 1,600 infants plus others remaining in Korea or adopted by other international families &#8220;did the same thing&#8221; as the Dutch couple.  You wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Iâ€™m not sticking up for this couple in any way shape or form. What I am doing is calling hypocrisy for all those who attack this couple yet have nothing to say for the birth parents who gave the child up in the first place.</p></blockquote>
<p>This statement and your statistic imply strongly you think that all parents who give up children for adoption are equally wrong.  I disagree vigorously.  A single teenager got pregnant because she had unprotected sex with her boyfriend and isn&#8217;t ready to be a mom is doing the child a favor by giving it up.  A couple with three children deeply in debt are making a desperate choice.  We do not condemn the birth parents because A) we do not know the reasons why they gave up the child; and B) we believe that there are some legitimate reasons for putting a child up for adoption.   If you think parents giving children for adoption is always wrong, then you will disagree with us, but that does not make us hypocrites because as I&#8217;ve stated a number of times:  We do not know the circumstances of the birth parents; therefore, we cannot evaluate their decision.</p>
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