Comments on: “Could Not Adapt to Dutch Culture” http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/ Korea From North to South Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:13:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dutch cosul | Trd4Runner http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-411052 Dutch cosul | Trd4Runner Sun, 06 Mar 2011 05:15:50 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-411052 [...] “Could Not Adapt to Dutch Culture” | ROK DropGuilty of not adapting to Dutch culture More details have now been released about the Dutch couple who gave back their adopted Korean daughter after being … ; Guilty of not adapting to Dutch culture… Leave a comment « Snag it Comments are closed. Theme Styles : [...] [...] “Could Not Adapt to Dutch Culture” | ROK DropGuilty of not adapting to Dutch culture More details have now been released about the Dutch couple who gave back their adopted Korean daughter after being … ; Guilty of not adapting to Dutch culture… Leave a comment « Snag it Comments are closed. Theme Styles : [...]

]]> By: shattered http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-146937 shattered Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:54:52 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-146937 "Oh and Tom. My heart bleeds for you. I guess the search for the Korean “parents” who threw you out into the garbage isnt going too well." Well said "V" What people are forgetting in this story is how common it is for Koreans to toss their children to an orphanage. You can hear every excuse in the book, but never hear the truth, that they don't want the child. Many orphans, as much as 25% are sent to the orphanage just because the parents divorce and neither parent wants the child. Tom, is that what happended to you? That is very sad. "Oh and Tom. My heart bleeds for you. I guess the search for the Korean “parents” who threw you out into the garbage isnt going too well."

Well said "V"

What people are forgetting in this story is how common it is for Koreans to toss their children to an orphanage. You can hear every excuse in the book, but never hear the truth, that they don't want the child. Many orphans, as much as 25% are sent to the orphanage just because the parents divorce and neither parent wants the child.

Tom, is that what happended to you? That is very sad.

]]> By: Stephanie http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-120704 Stephanie Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:36:26 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-120704 You all seem to be forgetting an important point. Many of you have said something to the effect of "they wouldn't give back their biological children if they had psychological problems". While it is quite possible that they may have been more tolerant of their own kids, many parents do try to "give back" their biological children who have behavioral problems. It used to be acceptable, although unspoke of, for children to be dropped off at state run mental facilities and left for life with not so much as a visit. Even now, it is common practice for parents with children who are delinquent or who they can't "cope" with to be turned over to state run group facilities or juvenile home programs. While it doesn't seem to be necessarily the case here, and I am in no way condoning that kind of behavior, the girls could have indeed had psychological troubles and the parents decision to return her could have stemmed from that. We can only hope that maybe she got lucky. Psychological troubles are common in adopted children, including the inability to form a bond or attachment to the parents. There are cases when a child's behavior was so disturbed that it drove parents to violence, and in some cases, adopted children have been killed. I am just playing a bit of a devil's advocate here. And again I am in no way condoning this. I just wanted to say that there is more than one way to look at it. And there is certainly, more than one kind of evil parent. You all seem to be forgetting an important point. Many of you have said something to the effect of "they wouldn't give back their biological children if they had psychological problems". While it is quite possible that they may have been more tolerant of their own kids, many parents do try to "give back" their biological children who have behavioral problems. It used to be acceptable, although unspoke of, for children to be dropped off at state run mental facilities and left for life with not so much as a visit. Even now, it is common practice for parents with children who are delinquent or who they can't "cope" with to be turned over to state run group facilities or juvenile home programs. While it doesn't seem to be necessarily the case here, and I am in no way condoning that kind of behavior, the girls could have indeed had psychological troubles and the parents decision to return her could have stemmed from that. We can only hope that maybe she got lucky. Psychological troubles are common in adopted children, including the inability to form a bond or attachment to the parents. There are cases when a child's behavior was so disturbed that it drove parents to violence, and in some cases, adopted children have been killed. I am just playing a bit of a devil's advocate here. And again I am in no way condoning this. I just wanted to say that there is more than one way to look at it. And there is certainly, more than one kind of evil parent.

]]> By: Megite Politics News: What's Happening Right Now http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-112595 Megite Politics News: What's Happening Right Now Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:09:05 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-112595 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] items Rokdrop.com “Could Not Adapt to Dutch Culture”   —  More details have now been [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] items Rokdrop.com “Could Not Adapt to Dutch Culture”   —  More details have now been [...]

]]> By: myLot - Dutch diplomat gives away adopted daughter after 7 years http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-110586 myLot - Dutch diplomat gives away adopted daughter after 7 years Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:50:56 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-110586 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] years they placed her in foster care in Hong Kong, saying that she wasn't able to bond with them http://rokdrop.com/2007/1... It appears from the above article that when the couple had a biological child, they gave her up. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] years they placed her in foster care in Hong Kong, saying that she wasn’t able to bond with them http://rokdrop.com/2007/1... It appears from the above article that when the couple had a biological child, they gave her up. [...]

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-110160 GI Korea Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:40:40 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-110160 This has nothing to do with them being Dutch. Where the parents are from has nothing to do with why they gave up the child. The couple should not be criticized because of where they are from but instead for the reasoning for giving up the child. This has nothing to do with them being Dutch. Where the parents are from has nothing to do with why they gave up the child. The couple should not be criticized because of where they are from but instead for the reasoning for giving up the child.

]]> By: ChickenHead http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-110152 ChickenHead Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:26:31 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-110152 The Dutch insist on speaking English, the French refuse to speak English, the Scotch speak unintelligible English! The lesson here is... ...if you aren't doing what I want you to, right now, in the way I want it, you are raciest! The Dutch insist on speaking English, the French refuse to speak English, the Scotch speak unintelligible English!

The lesson here is…

…if you aren't doing what I want you to, right now, in the way I want it, you are raciest!

]]> By: V http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-110062 V Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:33:25 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-110062 Rina I lived in the Netherlands as well but never found the racism you encounter. Oh yea Dutch people definitely switch to English if you dont speak fluent Dutch but I always thought it was more to make it easier for me to communicate (given that they are all bilingual anyways). Just goes to show how racism can often be invented in the mind as well. If I ever wanted to practice my Dutch, all I had to was vocalize my intention. They would usually be delighted and start speaking slower to help me out. Oh and Tom. My heart bleeds for you. I guess the search for the Korean "parents" who threw you out into the garbage isnt going too well. Rina I lived in the Netherlands as well but never found the racism you encounter. Oh yea Dutch people definitely switch to English if you dont speak fluent Dutch but I always thought it was more to make it easier for me to communicate (given that they are all bilingual anyways). Just goes to show how racism can often be invented in the mind as well.

If I ever wanted to practice my Dutch, all I had to was vocalize my intention. They would usually be delighted and start speaking slower to help me out.

Oh and Tom. My heart bleeds for you. I guess the search for the Korean "parents" who threw you out into the garbage isnt going too well.

]]> By: Rina http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-108337 Rina Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:35:26 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-108337 "they didn’t bother to teach her Dutch at home and then criticize her for it afterwards"- well, that is exactly what the Dutch culture is like! I lived in the Netherlands for 8 years and, despite many mixed couples there, I have never been in a more racist place in my life! I learnt Dutch language fluently within the year, but the RESISTANCE of Dutch people against foreigners who speak their language, was huge! You would start speaking in Dutch - and the moment they hear your accent, they would start replying to you in English, deliberately! I found it very unpleasant. I literally had to force them to give me the chance to speak their language with them. No matter how good you speak it, no matter how hard to try to adjust to the Dutch, you'll just never be "one of their own", and they make you feel that constantly too! I now live among the Irish and am just accepted as I am, as part of the society - even though they know I am foreign - and it feels great! After living in the Netherlands I do understand why was it people of Dutch origin who invented apartheid in South Africa (it's a Dutch word, by the way!) "they didn’t bother to teach her Dutch at home and then criticize her for it afterwards"- well, that is exactly what the Dutch culture is like! I lived in the Netherlands for 8 years and, despite many mixed couples there, I have never been in a more racist place in my life! I learnt Dutch language fluently within the year, but the RESISTANCE of Dutch people against foreigners who speak their language, was huge! You would start speaking in Dutch – and the moment they hear your accent, they would start replying to you in English, deliberately! I found it very unpleasant. I literally had to force them to give me the chance to speak their language with them. No matter how good you speak it, no matter how hard to try to adjust to the Dutch, you'll just never be "one of their own", and they make you feel that constantly too! I now live among the Irish and am just accepted as I am, as part of the society – even though they know I am foreign – and it feels great!

After living in the Netherlands I do understand why was it people of Dutch origin who invented apartheid in South Africa (it's a Dutch word, by the way!)

]]> By: Stephen http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-108318 Stephen Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:23:59 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/14/could-not-adapt-to-dutch-culture/#comment-108318 They had the girl when she was only FOUR months old.. not four years old. It's easier to believe them if they tell you that they had been abducted by aliens before than to believe that the girl was not able to adapt to their culture. It's only right to expose them for the cold heartless liars that they are. They had the girl when she was only FOUR months old.. not four years old. It's easier to believe them if they tell you that they had been abducted by aliens before than to believe that the girl was not able to adapt to their culture.
It's only right to expose them for the cold heartless liars that they are.

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