Comments on: The Dispute Over Japanese Whaling Grows http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/ Korea From North to South Fri, 25 May 2012 15:09:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-423543 GI Korea Tue, 05 Jul 2011 14:22:45 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-423543 I can't believe how this post keeps coming back up, but anyway Lemmy you and no one else hasn't addressed any of the points I made that: - This is not an environmental issue, this is not a conservation issue, and this is not a territorial issue as the whale advocates claim. - This is a dispute based on feelings. - The Japanese want to commercially whale like other nations but want to do it through an international agreement. - The tactics of the anti-whale people are only making the situation worse. - If the anti-whale nations negotiated in good faith with the Japanese I’m willing to bet an agreement on Antarctic whaling could be reached. - This issue is obscuring much larger real environmental issues that these same nations condemning Japan won’t deal with. Lemmy please go point by point and explain how I am wrong? I can’t believe how this post keeps coming back up, but anyway Lemmy you and no one else hasn’t addressed any of the points I made that:

- This is not an environmental issue, this is not a conservation issue, and this is not a territorial issue as the whale advocates claim.

- This is a dispute based on feelings.

- The Japanese want to commercially whale like other nations but want to do it through an international agreement.

- The tactics of the anti-whale people are only making the situation worse.

- If the anti-whale nations negotiated in good faith with the Japanese I’m willing to bet an agreement on Antarctic whaling could be reached.

- This issue is obscuring much larger real environmental issues that these same nations condemning Japan won’t deal with.

Lemmy please go point by point and explain how I am wrong?

]]> By: Lemmy http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-423521 Lemmy Tue, 05 Jul 2011 06:55:57 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-423521 #43 GI Each of your points have been argued / addressed. You simply don't want to accept the answers or conclusions -- much like a child who turns from their father to their mother seeking a favorable answer. #43 GI

Each of your points have been argued / addressed. You simply don’t want to accept the answers or conclusions — much like a child who turns from their father to their mother seeking a favorable answer.

]]> By: Leon LaPorte http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-423515 Leon LaPorte Tue, 05 Jul 2011 06:02:31 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-423515 OK. How about Whale Whataburgers with Jalapenos? OK. How about Whale Whataburgers with Jalapenos?

]]> By: ChickenHead http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-423512 ChickenHead Tue, 05 Jul 2011 05:19:14 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-423512 Leon, you ignorant heathen... "and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea" A whale is not a fish. "and over the fowl of the air" A whale is not a fowl and it is not in the air. "and over the cattle" A whale is not a cow... and if you say it once was, it is the biblical equivalent of dividing by zero. "and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." A whale doth not creepeth upon the earth. Like the forbidden fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it is obvious that whales are the forbidden fruit of the sea... of which mankind was specifically not given permission to dominate. While your forked tongue speaks like the serpent in the Garden of Eden, hissing to kill and consume the whales while quoting scripture, it is clear that you are an agent of Satan tempting mankind with the promise of delicious whale burgers. Begone, Devil! The power of Christ compels you! Leon, you ignorant heathen…

“and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea”

A whale is not a fish.

“and over the fowl of the air”

A whale is not a fowl and it is not in the air.

“and over the cattle”

A whale is not a cow… and if you say it once was, it is the biblical equivalent of dividing by zero.

“and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

A whale doth not creepeth upon the earth.

Like the forbidden fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it is obvious that whales are the forbidden fruit of the sea… of which mankind was specifically not given permission to dominate.

While your forked tongue speaks like the serpent in the Garden of Eden, hissing to kill and consume the whales while quoting scripture, it is clear that you are an agent of Satan tempting mankind with the promise of delicious whale burgers.

Begone, Devil! The power of Christ compels you!

]]> By: Leon LaPorte http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-423498 Leon LaPorte Tue, 05 Jul 2011 04:37:06 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-423498 If whales were so intelligent, they'd avoid the whalers. Or they might ask for help? Perhaps petition the UN or IWC? Attack the whalers in self defense (this I would have no problem with)? Besides if those Japanese whalers happen to be good Christians, we're in big trouble. "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." - Genesis 1:26 You don't want to be labelled anti-Christian whaler do you? /mmmm Whale burgers are delicious If whales were so intelligent, they’d avoid the whalers. Or they might ask for help? Perhaps petition the UN or IWC? Attack the whalers in self defense (this I would have no problem with)?

Besides if those Japanese whalers happen to be good Christians, we’re in big trouble.

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.” – Genesis 1:26

You don’t want to be labelled anti-Christian whaler do you?

/mmmm Whale burgers are delicious

]]> By: Aussie Japanese resident http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-423488 Aussie Japanese resident Tue, 05 Jul 2011 02:31:59 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-423488 this is a great article, really makes the point well about why everybody is a racist hypocrite, one thing it doesnt mention is that before racist/hypocrite western influence japan only ate from the sea becuase any animal that walked on land with legs was sacred to them, i hope this help's the whaling oposer's that they are "racist hypocrite's" and remember japan is not the only country whaling and they are doing according to international agreemant, they are doing NOTHING illigle, open eyed people that agree with me please add this page http://www.facebook.com/?sk=inbox&setup#!/home.php?sk=group_219332998105419&ap=1 this is a great article, really makes the point well about why everybody is a racist hypocrite, one thing it doesnt mention is that before racist/hypocrite western influence japan only ate from the sea becuase any animal that walked on land with legs was sacred to them, i hope this help’s the whaling oposer’s that they are “racist hypocrite’s” and remember japan is not the only country whaling and they are doing according to international agreemant, they are doing NOTHING illigle, open eyed people that agree with me please add this page http://www.facebook.com/?sk=inbox&setup#!/home.php?sk=group_219332998105419&ap=1

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-381118 GI Korea Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:36:30 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-381118 Who said kiwis as road kill? They are going extinct due to habitat loss. And yes I have spent plenty of time in New Zealand. Anyway all this discussion about kiwis is obscuring the real issue which none of you have been able to answer. To review my main points which have been conveniently ignored: - This is not an environmental issue, this is not a conservation issue, and this is not a territorial issue as the whale advocates claim. - This is a dispute based on feelings. - The Japanese want to commercially whale like other nations but want to do it through an international agreement. - The tactics of the anti-whale people are only making the situation worse. - If the anti-whale nations negotiated in good faith with the Japanese I’m willing to bet an agreement on Antarctic whaling could be reached. - This issue is obscuring much larger real environmental issues that these same nations condemning Japan won’t deal with. Who said kiwis as road kill? They are going extinct due to habitat loss. And yes I have spent plenty of time in New Zealand. Anyway all this discussion about kiwis is obscuring the real issue which none of you have been able to answer.

To review my main points which have been conveniently ignored:

- This is not an environmental issue, this is not a conservation issue, and this is not a territorial issue as the whale advocates claim.

- This is a dispute based on feelings.

- The Japanese want to commercially whale like other nations but want to do it through an international agreement.

- The tactics of the anti-whale people are only making the situation worse.

- If the anti-whale nations negotiated in good faith with the Japanese I’m willing to bet an agreement on Antarctic whaling could be reached.

- This issue is obscuring much larger real environmental issues that these same nations condemning Japan won’t deal with.

]]> By: Emma http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-381068 Emma Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:52:35 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-381068 To GI KOREA Have you ever been to NZ? There's no Kiwis as roadkill and they're protected as hell. That's for free. To GI KOREA

Have you ever been to NZ?

There's no Kiwis as roadkill

and they're protected as hell.

That's for free.

]]> By: Neil http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-379726 Neil Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:11:31 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-379726 "This point actually supports whaling because if krill is running low in the oceans then it makes sense to then out the whale population before they starve to death." Where did you learn that krill are top-down limited by whales? It's bottom-up, and you are clearly an idiot. "This point actually supports whaling because if krill is running low in the oceans then it makes sense to then out the whale population before they starve to death."

Where did you learn that krill are top-down limited by whales? It's bottom-up, and you are clearly an idiot.

]]> By: Leon LaPorte http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-379669 Leon LaPorte Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:32:57 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/21/the-dispute-over-japanese-whaling-grows/#comment-379669 How about whale farms? Then we are not talking about the "Majestic Beasts of the Wilds" merely live stock. You'll lose none of the wild population - BOOM - solution. Or is it all really about something else? Hmmm... How about whale farms? Then we are not talking about the "Majestic Beasts of the Wilds" merely live stock. You'll lose none of the wild population – BOOM – solution. Or is it all really about something else? Hmmm…

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