Comments on: Racist Anti-Japanese Beer Commerical http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/ Serving on the Forgotten Frontier Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:52:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Charlotte http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-136009 Charlotte Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:21:04 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-136009 When I first saw this advert I found it in bad taste and shocking, yes , but not racist. Then when I did a bit of research on whaling, I found out that Norway kills roughly the same amount of whales as Japan does. So why aren't Norwegians featured in this advert? I also find it amusing that while the Australians are trying to protect the humpback whale, dingeos are in the same "vunerable" category. Japan hunts whales in a sustainable manor. On another note, Australia produces more than double the amount of greenhouse gasses per capita than Japan. And isn't factory farming just as cruel as killing whales. Yes whales take a while to die, but animals like chickens are kept in crowded, smelly conditions their entire lives. Not to mention they are bred so that they grow so big that they can't walk, just so us greedy rich countries can have cheap animal products. (And I am vegetarian, by the way. ) Personnaly, I don't see why such a commercial is advertising beer of all things. When I first saw this advert I found it in bad taste and shocking, yes , but not racist.
Then when I did a bit of research on whaling, I found out that Norway kills roughly the same amount of whales as Japan does. So why aren’t Norwegians featured in this advert?
I also find it amusing that while the Australians are trying to protect the humpback whale, dingeos are in the same “vunerable” category. Japan hunts whales in a sustainable manor.
On another note, Australia produces more than double the amount of greenhouse gasses per capita than Japan.

And isn’t factory farming just as cruel as killing whales. Yes whales take a while to die, but animals like chickens are kept in crowded, smelly conditions their entire lives. Not to mention they are bred so that they grow so big that they can’t walk, just so us greedy rich countries can have cheap animal products.
(And I am vegetarian, by the way. )

Personnaly, I don’t see why such a commercial is advertising beer of all things.

]]> By: Dada http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-128234 Dada Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:52:24 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-128234 'Read the comments and you can see the hatred of Koreans twards their fellow Asians' Browse thru YouTube and it is very easy to see Japanese/Chinese/Korean/Taiwan etc trash talking eachother like crazy, it isn't just Koreans against other Asians. ‘Read the comments and you can see the hatred of Koreans twards their fellow Asians’

Browse thru YouTube and it is very easy to see Japanese/Chinese/Korean/Taiwan etc trash talking eachother like crazy, it isn’t just Koreans against other Asians.

]]> By: GoodFood http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-128229 GoodFood Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:26:25 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-128229 Korean racist TV commercials. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFG1pGKUSMQ Read the comments and you can see the hatred of Koreans twards their fellow Asians. Korean racist TV commercials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFG1pGKUSMQ

Read the comments and you can see the hatred of Koreans twards their fellow Asians.

]]> By: Raj http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-128086 Raj Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:49:45 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-128086 Interesting that whenever someone complains about racism/etc towards Japanese, the response is "well they're not too cool themselves". So basically these people should be as bad/worse than intolerant Japanese - is that what we should all strive to be? Interesting that whenever someone complains about racism/etc towards Japanese, the response is “well they’re not too cool themselves”.

So basically these people should be as bad/worse than intolerant Japanese - is that what we should all strive to be?

]]> By: Differing Perspectives on Japanese Whaling at ROK Drop http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-127831 Differing Perspectives on Japanese Whaling at ROK Drop Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:54:59 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-127831 [...] If you want to see the totally divergent views on whaling between Japan and Australia then head over to Japundit and see the two videos there.  The Australian show was in very bad taste and I don’t think they were intentionally being racist, but I can understand why the Japanese commenters on YouTube would think they are.  Especially since this comes after what some would call a racist beer commercial.  [...] [...] If you want to see the totally divergent views on whaling between Japan and Australia then head over to Japundit and see the two videos there.  The Australian show was in very bad taste and I don’t think they were intentionally being racist, but I can understand why the Japanese commenters on YouTube would think they are.  Especially since this comes after what some would call a racist beer commercial.  [...]

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-116327 GI Korea Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:20:25 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-116327 I think this is the final nail in the coffin of all those who claim the Japanese are wiping out whales and effecting Australia's whale watching industry: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22987914-5001021,00.html I think this is the final nail in the coffin of all those who claim the Japanese are wiping out whales and effecting Australia’s whale watching industry:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22987914-5001021,00.html

]]> By: Surabol http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-113727 Surabol Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:33:47 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-113727 There is racist undertone in this commercial (not merely in bad taste), even if the content isn't explicitly bigoted. The Japanese customer here is implied here as a powerful corporate type. Arrogant and deprived of emotions. You can certainly detect a whiff of "yellow fever" here. Japanese Americans were stereotyped as insidious business men who bought loads of Amreican lands. Westerners acknowledged Japanese ingenuity even in the old days (whether on economy or science) but it was often belittled as a product of their cunning, darkly ambitious yellow nature. If the ad featured "me so horny" rat faced chinese man dancing under the confederate flag, I suppose most of us here would swiftly condemn it as "racist". But that's too convenient. Racism is most vile when its covert and snide. There is racist undertone in this commercial (not merely in bad taste), even if the content isn’t explicitly bigoted.

The Japanese customer here is implied here as a powerful corporate type. Arrogant and deprived of emotions. You can certainly detect a whiff of “yellow fever” here. Japanese Americans were stereotyped as insidious business men who bought loads of Amreican lands. Westerners acknowledged Japanese ingenuity even in the old days (whether on economy or science) but it was often belittled as a product of their cunning, darkly ambitious yellow nature.

If the ad featured “me so horny” rat faced chinese man dancing under the confederate flag, I suppose most of us here would swiftly condemn it as “racist”. But that’s too convenient. Racism is most vile when its covert and snide.

]]> By: ekev http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-113558 ekev Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:43:17 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-113558 There is a huge difference between the killing of whales and the killing of rabbits so your analogy is meaningless. One is a protected and (some species)endangered animal to which many people (rightly or wrongly) feel a strong emotional connection and a need to protect in the name of a more humane world, and respect to other intelligent, harmless species (justifiably in my view). The other, if we consider it outside the sense of a cute, children's pet, is a national scourge (in Australia at least) that, without some form of culling, represents a real problem to farmers. In one sense then it could be argued that there is a justification for the killing of rabbits but there is no justification for the killing of whales, endangered or not. Another false analogy is the one saying that Australia protesting about whaling in the Antarctic is like Californians protesting about whaling off the coast of Peru. Here the geographical distance is being compared, however there are quite different connections between each: California and Peruvian waters are two clear territorially distinct international regions whereas Australia has a claim to the ocean directly to its south, i.e. the Antarctic. Regardless of this, there would still be no reason for Californians not to protest about whaling off the coast of Peru. Or are you suggesting that we can only protest things that have a local significance? Personally I think that whaling in this day and age is barbaric and the Japanese are thoroughly disingenuous about their reasons for continuing to do it. The ad is a classic and if the Japanese are offended by it, then good - maybe it will help them to consider the reality of how whale meat gets onto their plate, just as we ought to consider the treatment of chickens and other animals that we happily consume. There is a huge difference between the killing of whales and the killing of rabbits so your analogy is meaningless. One is a protected and (some species)endangered animal to which many people (rightly or wrongly) feel a strong emotional connection and a need to protect in the name of a more humane world, and respect to other intelligent, harmless species (justifiably in my view). The other, if we consider it outside the sense of a cute, children’s pet, is a national scourge (in Australia at least) that, without some form of culling, represents a real problem to farmers. In one sense then it could be argued that there is a justification for the killing of rabbits but there is no justification for the killing of whales, endangered or not.
Another false analogy is the one saying that Australia protesting about whaling in the Antarctic is like Californians protesting about whaling off the coast of Peru. Here the geographical distance is being compared, however there are quite different connections between each: California and Peruvian waters are two clear territorially distinct international regions whereas Australia has a claim to the ocean directly to its south, i.e. the Antarctic. Regardless of this, there would still be no reason for Californians not to protest about whaling off the coast of Peru. Or are you suggesting that we can only protest things that have a local significance?
Personally I think that whaling in this day and age is barbaric and the Japanese are thoroughly disingenuous about their reasons for continuing to do it. The ad is a classic and if the Japanese are offended by it, then good - maybe it will help them to consider the reality of how whale meat gets onto their plate, just as we ought to consider the treatment of chickens and other animals that we happily consume.

]]> By: ongrua http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-113505 ongrua Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:45:18 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-113505 Whaling does not fill any human requirement that cannot be filled otherwise. Also, how commercial whaling serves research interests now is not clear. However, every human alive on the planet kills other things on the planet directly or indirectly: yes, even the vegans that steal food that otherwise might sustain a family of hungry slugs or use microbe (small innocent life-form) killers (antibiotics). There is at least one recent retort here (http://v.backchina.com/watch.php?video=qrB7nPiHNA0) to complaints about Japanese whaling in the vein of "so's yer ol' man" that does not rely much on language (a rock bottom minimum of English). The clip is about 10 minutes and may make even some meat eaters a bit uncomfortable if they think about what they are seeing. This little controversy is at least a year old. The advertisement was run in Australia in late 2006. The advertisement is a very fine video illustration of the meaning of the term "non sequitur" in light of the fact that making/selling beer and whaling are connected about as closely as diamonds and potatoes(for those wondering, the connections there are carbon and sourced in soil). While it is not overtly racist, judging by some of the people/groups that have had favorable things to say about it, particularly in Australia, escaping the conclusion that it was intended to exploit racist attitudes in Australia - and does so very well in some places - is hard to escape. Think what the advertisement would be like if the man walking into the restaurant was an Australian white and ordered "the full rabbit experience" (a club to the head - true, in contrast to electrodes attached to the sides of the face - patently false) followed by advice to "drink only rabbit safe beer." Such advice would be seen by most people as idiotic mostly because such advice would be idiotic, the substance of the two advertisements being the same. The Bluetongue advertisement is the more reprehensible because it reflects not a commitment to any environmental agenda, such as "save the whales" (support that or not, as you choose) but a commitment to take advantage of any available cause, no matter how extraneous, to the advertiser's own (making money selling beer). Whaling does not fill any human requirement that cannot be filled otherwise. Also, how commercial whaling serves research interests now is not clear. However, every human alive on the planet kills other things on the planet directly or indirectly: yes, even the vegans that steal food that otherwise might sustain a family of hungry slugs or use microbe (small innocent life-form) killers (antibiotics).

There is at least one recent retort here (http://v.backchina.com/watch.php?video=qrB7nPiHNA0) to complaints about Japanese whaling in the vein of “so’s yer ol’ man” that does not rely much on language (a rock bottom minimum of English). The clip is about 10 minutes and may make even some meat eaters a bit uncomfortable if they think about what they are seeing.

This little controversy is at least a year old. The advertisement was run in Australia in late 2006. The advertisement is a very fine video illustration of the meaning of the term “non sequitur” in light of the fact that making/selling beer and whaling are connected about as closely as diamonds and potatoes(for those wondering, the connections there are carbon and sourced in soil).

While it is not overtly racist, judging by some of the people/groups that have had favorable things to say about it, particularly in Australia, escaping the conclusion that it was intended to exploit racist attitudes in Australia - and does so very well in some places - is hard to escape. Think what the advertisement would be like if the man walking into the restaurant was an Australian white and ordered “the full rabbit experience” (a club to the head - true, in contrast to electrodes attached to the sides of the face - patently false) followed by advice to “drink only rabbit safe beer.” Such advice would be seen by most people as idiotic mostly because such advice would be idiotic, the substance of the two advertisements being the same. The Bluetongue advertisement is the more reprehensible because it reflects not a commitment to any environmental agenda, such as “save the whales” (support that or not, as you choose) but a commitment to take advantage of any available cause, no matter how extraneous, to the advertiser’s own (making money selling beer).

]]> By: Greg http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/29/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-113286 Greg Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:23:28 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2007/12/01/racist-anti-japanese-beer-commerical/#comment-113286 A lot of trolls post on youtube. Don't take their videos seriously. A lot of trolls post on youtube. Don’t take their videos seriously.

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