Comments on: 40th Anniversary of the USS Pueblo Incident http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/ Serving on the Forgotten Frontier Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:35:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: North Korean Oddities: USS Pueblo | DPRK Forum http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-151102 North Korean Oddities: USS Pueblo | DPRK Forum Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:24:11 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-151102 [...] ROK Drop posting [...] [...] ROK Drop posting [...]

]]> By: Tim http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-121771 Tim Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:47:53 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-121771 Kingkitty, I like the idea you put forth and set it to explode in broad daylight so that it makes the most impact, hopefully while a tour is going on. Hehehehehe Tim in Angeles sendzzzzzzzzzz Kingkitty,

I like the idea you put forth and set it to explode in broad daylight so that it makes the most impact, hopefully while a tour is going on. Hehehehehe

Tim in Angeles sendzzzzzzzzzz

]]> By: Kingkitty http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-121754 Kingkitty Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:56:47 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-121754 I think we should send some Seals in and rig that ship with explosives You know to let the NKs know what we really can do to them I think we should send some Seals in and rig that ship with explosives

You know to let the NKs know what we really can do to them

]]> By: Hugh http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-121693 Hugh Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:37:43 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-121693 Absolutely right, and you know it's right because you have in-country Korean experience. To people back in Washington, the KJI regime is to be approached rationally, as if they were westerners. If you look at how NK operates, attention to symbolism is paramount in how they approach any situation. The Clinton administration's ignorance of how Asians see things hurt American in two ways when it sent Maddy Albright to Pyongyang : first, in Asia the less powerful visit the powerful - thus the immediate NK spin to its own citizens that her visit represented American bowing down to them, believed also by South Koreans. And frankly, isn't it true? Secondly, Albright was the worst possible choice for a visit to North Korea for visually/culturally obvious reasons. She's a hideously ugly woman. The North Korean propaganda machine must have been elated to learn that they could show pics of the wizened, semi-human-like visage of Albright to their citizens. Bitch about the theoretical unfairness of my analysis all you want - fact is, in Asia, things like this matter. The US would be better off to recognize and play the power symbolism has in this region - NK knows it all too well. I think some of the disrespect SKoreans feel towards the US comes from decades of 'pragmatic' policies towards NK. The 1976 axe murder incident illustrates this perfectly : America has convinced itself it stood up to NK when in fact it was utterly humbled by it. The best thing an American president could do in the next semi-tense times with North Korea (they always come) would be to slam a cruise missile or two onto the humiliated Pueblo. It would send an ice spike of fear down the NK power structure, and even better it would be to Asian minds a legitimate target. Absolutely right, and you know it’s right because you have in-country Korean experience. To people back in Washington, the KJI regime is to be approached rationally, as if they were westerners. If you look at how NK operates, attention to symbolism is paramount in how they approach any situation. The Clinton administration’s ignorance of how Asians see things hurt American in two ways when it sent Maddy Albright to Pyongyang : first, in Asia the less powerful visit the powerful - thus the immediate NK spin to its own citizens that her visit represented American bowing down to them, believed also by South Koreans. And frankly, isn’t it true? Secondly, Albright was the worst possible choice for a visit to North Korea for visually/culturally obvious reasons. She’s a hideously ugly woman. The North Korean propaganda machine must have been elated to learn that they could show pics of the wizened, semi-human-like visage of Albright to their citizens. Bitch about the theoretical unfairness of my analysis all you want - fact is, in Asia, things like this matter.

The US would be better off to recognize and play the power symbolism has in this region - NK knows it all too well. I think some of the disrespect SKoreans feel towards the US comes from decades of ‘pragmatic’ policies towards NK. The 1976 axe murder incident illustrates this perfectly : America has convinced itself it stood up to NK when in fact it was utterly humbled by it.

The best thing an American president could do in the next semi-tense times with North Korea (they always come) would be to slam a cruise missile or two onto the humiliated Pueblo. It would send an ice spike of fear down the NK power structure, and even better it would be to Asian minds a legitimate target.

]]> By: OneFreeKorea » Anju Links for 25 Jan 08 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-121545 OneFreeKorea » Anju Links for 25 Jan 08 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:04:53 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-121545 [...] POLICY:  I missed the 40th anniversary of the Pueblo Incident, but Richardson and GI Korea didn’t forget how a U.S. Navy ship became a must-see (literally, as in “or [...] [...] POLICY:  I missed the 40th anniversary of the Pueblo Incident, but Richardson and GI Korea didn’t forget how a U.S. Navy ship became a must-see (literally, as in “or [...]

]]> By: Robert T. Phillips http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-120681 Robert T. Phillips Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:06:10 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-120681 In 1968 I was the cryptanylist assigned to North Korean Navy at the 177RRSOU in Pyung Teck Korea. The reports I have read do not agree with my experiance. There is a three hour time disprency between the reported criticom X mission and the time we recieved it in South Korea. It hit my desk at about 0730 for initialo contact, destruct of radio gear and incryption equipment was about 1130. Robert T Pillips SP 5 98B020 503 975 4980 In 1968 I was the cryptanylist assigned to North Korean Navy at the 177RRSOU in Pyung Teck Korea. The reports I have read do not agree with my experiance. There is a three hour time disprency between the reported criticom X mission and the time we recieved it in South Korea. It hit my desk at about 0730 for initialo contact, destruct of radio gear and incryption equipment was about 1130.

Robert T Pillips SP 5 98B020
503 975 4980

]]> By: The 40th anniversary of the Pueblo incident (Wizbang) http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-120607 The 40th anniversary of the Pueblo incident (Wizbang) Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:58:53 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-120607 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] bit hat tip to GI at ROK Drop. GI wrote a lengthy post on the Pueblo incident here and I suggest you read it. GI(An officer [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] bit hat tip to GI at ROK Drop. GI wrote a lengthy post on the Pueblo incident here and I suggest you read it. GI(An officer [...]

]]> By: Tim http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-120598 Tim Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:23:00 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/24/40th-anniversary-of-the-uss-pueblo-incident/#comment-120598 GIKorea, Thanks for keeping the fires burning on this important issue. I believe, as you do, that any agreement with north Korea should include the return of the USS Pueblo but being that the U.S. government hasn't cared about it in 40 years, I don't see it caring about it for another 40 years or so. Maybe when the country (north Korea) finally falls apart we can take it back then. Tim in Angeles sendzzzzzzzzzzz GIKorea,

Thanks for keeping the fires burning on this important issue. I believe, as you do, that any agreement with north Korea should include the return of the USS Pueblo but being that the U.S. government hasn’t cared about it in 40 years, I don’t see it caring about it for another 40 years or so. Maybe when the country (north Korea) finally falls apart we can take it back then.

Tim in Angeles sendzzzzzzzzzzz

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