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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Korea&#8217;s Space Program: Experiments In Petty Nationalism? &#124; Japan Probe</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2008/03/11/south-korea-changes-space-tourist/#comment-151137</link>
		<dc:creator>Korea&#8217;s Space Program: Experiments In Petty Nationalism? &#124; Japan Probe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] South Korean recently participated in Russia&#8217;s space tourism for cash program by sending Yi So-yeon, the winner of an astronaut contest into space. What was the purpose of her [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: The final cut</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2008/03/11/south-korea-changes-space-tourist/#comment-143636</link>
		<dc:creator>The final cut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] March 11, 2008     South Korea Changes Space Tourist » by GI [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plain and simple

Her parents gave more money to the decision makers than His parents did.  Not too difficult to see from here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plain and simple</p>
<p>Her parents gave more money to the decision makers than His parents did.  Not too difficult to see from here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2008/03/11/south-korea-changes-space-tourist/#comment-141125</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just $30mm?  haha, if you look at it from a different angle, isn't it nice the ROK govt is saving it's citizens money by not spending it on a space program?

space exploration is of all things, not an economic venture.  maybe in a few hundred years, but definitely not now.  maybe it's a good thing that korea isn't spending billions of dollars on a space program?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just $30mm?  haha, if you look at it from a different angle, isn&#8217;t it nice the ROK govt is saving it&#8217;s citizens money by not spending it on a space program?</p>
<p>space exploration is of all things, not an economic venture.  maybe in a few hundred years, but definitely not now.  maybe it&#8217;s a good thing that korea isn&#8217;t spending billions of dollars on a space program?</p>
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		<title>By: Richardson</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2008/03/11/south-korea-changes-space-tourist/#comment-140990</link>
		<dc:creator>Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, what GI said. The ROKs are paying $30 million that Russia wants/needs. They are not yet ready to bite the hand that funds part of their space program. Reading between the lines is easy if you know what to look for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, what GI said. The ROKs are paying $30 million that Russia wants/needs. They are not yet ready to bite the hand that funds part of their space program. Reading between the lines is easy if you know what to look for.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Russians are not going come out and directly say he is a spy because they want to keep the Korean cash coming in, so of course they are going to say he was "preparing more thoroughly".  You do not accidentally mail home flight manuals.  You know how big and bulky those manuals are?  The guy obviously knew what he was doing.  

The Korean media is not keeping this low key because they know the cover story is BS just like I do.  A Samsung guy accidentally mailing manuals home does not make sense and even the Korean media realizes this.  

I like how you avoided the question of why Korea does not send astronauts to compete for NASA slots like the Japanese and other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russians are not going come out and directly say he is a spy because they want to keep the Korean cash coming in, so of course they are going to say he was &#8220;preparing more thoroughly&#8221;.  You do not accidentally mail home flight manuals.  You know how big and bulky those manuals are?  The guy obviously knew what he was doing.  </p>
<p>The Korean media is not keeping this low key because they know the cover story is BS just like I do.  A Samsung guy accidentally mailing manuals home does not make sense and even the Korean media realizes this.  </p>
<p>I like how you avoided the question of why Korea does not send astronauts to compete for NASA slots like the Japanese and other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian in Jeollanam-do: So the Korean astronaut guy commits espionage?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian in Jeollanam-do: So the Korean astronaut guy commits espionage?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] home along with his personal belongings last September, but it was sent back immediately. I'm with ROK Drop in feeling very uncomfortable about the bullshit excuse given for Ko's two foul-ups. Yonhap again, [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE: Russians also firmly stated that "Ko is NOT a spy, he just wanted to prepare more thoroughly", and that Russians expect continual cooperative space program efforts between the two countries:

http://news.media.daum.net/foreign/others/200803/11/yonhap/v20302306.html

GI Joe, you've also said: "The Russians will want to keep the complaint against Ko as low key as possible because they will be getting a cool $30 million from the Koreans for the mission."

Then why is it that the Korean gov and the Korean media is not willing to keep this 'LOW KEY'? Russians did not ask for the replacement, it was the Koreans who made the decision to replace Ko, knowing that people will question the reason behind it. Again, the Korean gov could have kept this as 'LOW KEY' as if nothing bad ever happened in the first place, but they didn't. Why? Because Ko, the individual, had made minor mistakes of violating the regulations and the Korean officials chosed for responsible resolution to that violation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: Russians also firmly stated that &#8220;Ko is NOT a spy, he just wanted to prepare more thoroughly&#8221;, and that Russians expect continual cooperative space program efforts between the two countries:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.media.daum.net/foreign/others/200803/11/yonhap/v20302306.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://news.media.daum.net/foreign/others/200803/11/yonhap/v20302306.html</a></p>
<p>GI Joe, you&#8217;ve also said: &#8220;The Russians will want to keep the complaint against Ko as low key as possible because they will be getting a cool $30 million from the Koreans for the mission.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why is it that the Korean gov and the Korean media is not willing to keep this &#8216;LOW KEY&#8217;? Russians did not ask for the replacement, it was the Koreans who made the decision to replace Ko, knowing that people will question the reason behind it. Again, the Korean gov could have kept this as &#8216;LOW KEY&#8217; as if nothing bad ever happened in the first place, but they didn&#8217;t. Why? Because Ko, the individual, had made minor mistakes of violating the regulations and the Korean officials chosed for responsible resolution to that violation.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is space tourism plain and simple and not "space science research".  Why doesn't Korea compete to have scientists go on shuttle missions with NASA like other nations do?  There are plenty of intelligent people in the ROK but sending people to compete for NASA slots is not as instantaneous as simply paying off the Russians.  Plus NASA is not going to send up a 29 year old as an astronaut.  

Look at the number of Japanese astronauts that have served with NASA:

http://www11.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/astrobio_international.html

Are the Japanese smarter then Koreans?  I don't think so but the Japanese are more serious about having a space program and have academic institutions and training programs to support it.  

Korea does not want to make the invest that a real commitment to a space program would take and instead wants to pay off the Russians.  The Korean government is paying $30 million to have someone wave a flag in space and try space kimchi.  

Also every Korean media site is saying the change was made at the request of the Russians.  The Chosun Ilbo goes into great detail about how Ko was probably asked to conduct technology espionage and it isn't the first time the Koreans tried industrial espionage of the Russian's space program:

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200803/200803110009.html

The Russians will want to keep the complaint against Ko as low key as possible because they will be getting a cool $30 million from the Koreans for the mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is space tourism plain and simple and not &#8220;space science research&#8221;.  Why doesn&#8217;t Korea compete to have scientists go on shuttle missions with NASA like other nations do?  There are plenty of intelligent people in the ROK but sending people to compete for NASA slots is not as instantaneous as simply paying off the Russians.  Plus NASA is not going to send up a 29 year old as an astronaut.  </p>
<p>Look at the number of Japanese astronauts that have served with NASA:</p>
<p><a href="http://www11.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/astrobio_international.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www11.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/astrobio_international.html</a></p>
<p>Are the Japanese smarter then Koreans?  I don&#8217;t think so but the Japanese are more serious about having a space program and have academic institutions and training programs to support it.  </p>
<p>Korea does not want to make the invest that a real commitment to a space program would take and instead wants to pay off the Russians.  The Korean government is paying $30 million to have someone wave a flag in space and try space kimchi.  </p>
<p>Also every Korean media site is saying the change was made at the request of the Russians.  The Chosun Ilbo goes into great detail about how Ko was probably asked to conduct technology espionage and it isn&#8217;t the first time the Koreans tried industrial espionage of the Russian&#8217;s space program:</p>
<p><a href="http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200803/200803110009.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200803/200803110009.html</a></p>
<p>The Russians will want to keep the complaint against Ko as low key as possible because they will be getting a cool $30 million from the Koreans for the mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update on this news:

Russian Federal Space Agency made statement today that it was the Korean government who made the request to change the 'tourist' from Ko to So-Yeon. After the minor violation was informed to the Korean gov, the gov officials requested meeting with the program directors in Russia, and the Russians responded by saying that since two Koreans are involved with the same level of training, they will not object to the Koreans' decision to change the astronaut. 

This violation is labeled as 'minor' even by the Russians and other World medias such as BBC and the New York Times. Russians had no intention of asking Korean gov for the replacement, yet it was the Korean gov who responded seriously with the change. If Korean gov is using the program as a propaganda, than they could have just kept the Ko and hide the violation quietly to avoid criticism... but they did not. Why? Because this should not be mistaken as the 'wave the Korean flag' propaganda, it is their small but worthwhile first step toward space science research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update on this news:</p>
<p>Russian Federal Space Agency made statement today that it was the Korean government who made the request to change the &#8216;tourist&#8217; from Ko to So-Yeon. After the minor violation was informed to the Korean gov, the gov officials requested meeting with the program directors in Russia, and the Russians responded by saying that since two Koreans are involved with the same level of training, they will not object to the Koreans&#8217; decision to change the astronaut. </p>
<p>This violation is labeled as &#8216;minor&#8217; even by the Russians and other World medias such as BBC and the New York Times. Russians had no intention of asking Korean gov for the replacement, yet it was the Korean gov who responded seriously with the change. If Korean gov is using the program as a propaganda, than they could have just kept the Ko and hide the violation quietly to avoid criticism&#8230; but they did not. Why? Because this should not be mistaken as the &#8216;wave the Korean flag&#8217; propaganda, it is their small but worthwhile first step toward space science research.</p>
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