Maybe you should take a look at Observer's comments. "this idiot shattered"

I'm more worried where the ROK military will be at in 10-20 years. That is why I believe USFK needs the transformation to happen, a reduced footprint, and the wartime control handover to happen as soon as possible and stop the Korean delay games. This would force the ROK government to spend the money necessary to upgrade the ROK military. With all the money that will end up poured into LMB's canal just imagine what that money could do to further modernize the ROK military instead?

In response to Jax by moving the remaining elements of USFK south of Seoul that would greatly eliminate the fratricide concerns that I fully agree with you would happen if an attack from North Korea happened right now.

I also agree that it is very unlikely the US and China will get a ground war against each other. Both sides would take huge losses and gain nothing from it. To much to lose on each side and any conflict between the two nations would be more like Cold War-lite with asymetric actions like Jax mentioned happening.

Shattered you are welcome to comment as long as no racial remarks, cuss words, and personal attacks are directed towards other commenters. Next time your IP address will be banned.

The moron thinks he is protected behind his computer monitor, talking trash on his keyboard all day long…

But with enough resources, mentally deformed racists like shattered can easily be tracked down, properly investigated and charged with him racially cursing other posters such as Tom, Dada and Koreans in general, for his extremely racist slandering hate crime.

That was a good run-down of the ROK's lackluster capabilities, but it doesn't change the fact that 50+ years of a so-called Alliance has failed to produce any change. So why bother waiting at this point?

The US might as well realign its force posture into a PACOM-based reaction force with an absolute minimum economy of force remaining on the peninsula to fulfill UNC armistice duties. The ROKs are good enough to stall a nK invasion north of Seoul, thereby allowing UNC the time to properly stage and execute a counterattack into nK.

As a former commander in 2ID, me and my peers overwhelmingly believed that US forces fighting within ROK lines would be an absolute disaster in terms of confusion and accidental fratricide … not to mention the strong possibility of intentional ROK on US hostilities.

In response to Pete, staging US forces in the ROK as a deterrent to China is a pipe dream. For many years to come, the US and China will never willingly engage each other again in an all-out ground war, so having US forces in Japan is a good enough deterrent. A fight with China would be asymmetric anyway, especially since China prefers an intact nK to supply cheap labor for its Northeast Project.

In response to Shattered and Tom, you both need to get a life !!!

Korea takes takes takes and the only thing they give is their unwanted babies and whores.

Shattered, with spewage like this, it's easy to see why Tom and dada have attitudes. Well, now you have an American ex-pat who considers you to be a worthless troll. That is my last word to you.

If it came to KWII, Jax is probably right. However, let's review what the ROKs have: absolutely substandard C2 systems, a marginal littoral navy, an absolutely useless air force (that is the no-shit truth I speak of from experience), a great Special Warfare Command and Marine Corp (w/o aviation), and, GI please correct me, a decent bunch of ground pounders. The key point being that their current and available methods of command and control are completely incompatible with the US standard. Therefore, inclusion of any US ground forces would require procedural deconfliction and a seam in the lines in order to sectorize US and ROK forces. Any other alliance members would no doubt cast their lot into the US command and control sector.

It is my understanding that the USAF will still operatate the C2 aspect of the Air Component Command, for which I, and ultimately the ROK public, will be grateful should the shit hit the fan of death.

Another troubling aspect: while the profession ROK forces are a decent group of potential warriors, I am very concerned about the generally pussified and large group of conscripts that currently serve. I have doubts about the ability of their basic training methods to turn these metros into warriors. They seriously appear to lack the appropriate spirit.

Kingkitty, new construction is a time-honored harbinger of an impending base closure. C'mon man, you've been around through a few BRACs, haven't you?