Comments on: South Korean Perceptions of the US Military Presence in Korea http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/ Serving on the Forgotten Frontier Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:46:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: April http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-185236 April Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:02:33 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-185236 You won't die if you leave the A/C on overnight but the Korean government gets up up the bum for it in fees on the electric bill. You won’t die if you leave the A/C on overnight but the Korean government gets up up the bum for it in fees on the electric bill.

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]]> By: Mark http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153317 Mark Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:56:11 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153317 Ryu, my wife still thinks that leaving the fan or A/C on for too long can cause death, even after all the times that I've slept in a closed room with the A/C on all night. For so many psychological and social reasons, there will <b>never, ever</b> be a Snopes.co.kr unless a foreigner were to make it. Ryu, my wife still thinks that leaving the fan or A/C on for too long can cause death, even after all the times that I’ve slept in a closed room with the A/C on all night.

For so many psychological and social reasons, there will never, ever be a Snopes.co.kr unless a foreigner were to make it.

]]> By: usinkorea http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153290 usinkorea Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:59:43 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153290 I have given Korean adult students articles from the Korean press before that showed GIs have been found guilty in Korean courts before, or that the Korean woman in the 1994 or 95 subway brawl was in fact one of the GI's wife, but they refused to believe it. The same with pointing out Korea only pays a share of USFK's total costs, and not even 50% at that, and that most of the money goes to pay Korean civilian employees or other Korea-related business, but with no luck either. Anti-US and USFK thought is institutionalized beyond the press. But the press is a big factor... When I read about the memorial USFK had for the two girls ---- and when I saw how the Korean press absolutely refused to tell the people that USFK, the Korean government, and the families of the two girls had reached a monetary settlement about a month after the accident, I was livid (both times). And in the Korean language coverage, they described the murders continuously as murders. I have given Korean adult students articles from the Korean press before that showed GIs have been found guilty in Korean courts before, or that the Korean woman in the 1994 or 95 subway brawl was in fact one of the GI’s wife, but they refused to believe it.

The same with pointing out Korea only pays a share of USFK’s total costs, and not even 50% at that, and that most of the money goes to pay Korean civilian employees or other Korea-related business, but with no luck either.

Anti-US and USFK thought is institutionalized beyond the press.

But the press is a big factor…

When I read about the memorial USFK had for the two girls —- and when I saw how the Korean press absolutely refused to tell the people that USFK, the Korean government, and the families of the two girls had reached a monetary settlement about a month after the accident, I was livid (both times). And in the Korean language coverage, they described the murders continuously as murders.

]]> By: ryu http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153289 ryu Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:56:54 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153289 just because many Korean people think like that, doesnt mean we shouldnt attempt to offer an alternative to more rational or objective people. Most people believe in fan death just because they havent heard otherwise. just because many Korean people think like that, doesnt mean we shouldnt attempt to offer an alternative to more rational or objective people.

Most people believe in fan death just because they havent heard otherwise.

]]> By: Crackus http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153139 Crackus Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:35:09 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153139 #5 Not so sure. Look at the average Koreans response to being told the reality of fan death, and the power of "group think" on a national scale becomes apparent. Regardless of translation, demonstration or the laws of physics they won't change their minds unless some highly intellectual role model like Kang Ho-dong says to. Most Koreans have a remarkable ability to dismiss reason in favor of popular opinion. #5 Not so sure. Look at the average Koreans response to being told the reality of fan death, and the power of “group think” on a national scale becomes apparent. Regardless of translation, demonstration or the laws of physics they won’t change their minds unless some highly intellectual role model like Kang Ho-dong says to.

Most Koreans have a remarkable ability to dismiss reason in favor of popular opinion.

]]> By: Mark http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153138 Mark Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:29:38 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153138 I want a new Korea article series from Conor Purcell. I want a new Korea article series from Conor Purcell.

]]> By: shattered http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153128 shattered Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:11:45 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153128 “We are beginning to love serving them.” That one made me laugh. The GI's are the bread and butter of that bar in the story, but the owners openly admit that they don't like them. I would love to see a western bar owner saying " we are starting to like cowboys in here". The kicker is that lots of expats and GI's think that Koreans love them. And some expats spend their time trying to convince other of how great Korea is (and how great the koolaid is) and how important and wonderful Korea is. Those fools need to be locked up. “We are beginning to love serving them.”

That one made me laugh. The GI’s are the bread and butter of that bar in the story, but the owners openly admit that they don’t like them.

I would love to see a western bar owner saying ” we are starting to like cowboys in here”. The kicker is that lots of expats and GI’s think that Koreans love them. And some expats spend their time trying to convince other of how great Korea is (and how great the koolaid is) and how important and wonderful Korea is. Those fools need to be locked up.

]]> By: ryu http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153117 ryu Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:18:22 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/22/south-korean-perceptions-of-the-us-military-presence-in-korea/#comment-153117 its just frustrating that the Anti-U.S/foreigner media has free reign to make Koreans believe whatever anti-foreigner sediment they push. If we could at least get these articles translated, and then posted, offering an explaination, or at least a foreign point of view, at least Korean people who want to be objective have a reference. Currently, they have none. I've known about things like the "U.S Han river pollution" for a long time, but when i try to explain it, i am far less credible because i have no source. So Koreans tend, naturally, to believe the naver blog than their friend's friend that told them it wasnt illegal and it didnt go into the Han. It's not Korean people's fault, because even if they wanted to investigate it, they couldnt. It would be nice to set up a "snopes" or "fact or fiction" type website in Korean for intrested parties to look at. If I Korean netizens, it would at least change the perspective for many. its just frustrating that the Anti-U.S/foreigner media has free reign to make Koreans believe whatever anti-foreigner sediment they push. If we could at least get these articles translated, and then posted, offering an explaination, or at least a foreign point of view, at least Korean people who want to be objective have a reference. Currently, they have none. I’ve known about things like the “U.S Han river pollution” for a long time, but when i try to explain it, i am far less credible because i have no source. So Koreans tend, naturally, to believe the naver blog than their friend’s friend that told them it wasnt illegal and it didnt go into the Han. It’s not Korean people’s fault, because even if they wanted to investigate it, they couldnt. It would be nice to set up a “snopes” or “fact or fiction” type website in Korean for intrested parties to look at. If I Korean netizens, it would at least change the perspective for many.

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