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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on April 30th, 2008 at 6:30 am

Korean Government to Deport Violent Chinese Protesters

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I suspected the violent demonstration by Chinese students during the Olympic torch relay in Seoul was illegal:

The government has decided to deport Chinese protesters involved in illicit violent rallies during Sunday’s Olympic torch relay in Seoul.

Officials from the prosecution, police and the Foreign Ministry held an emergency meeting Tuesday to discuss countermeasures.

The officials decided to take stern action after analyzing related video clips and citizens’ reports in an effort to identify violent protesters.

Chinese students involved in violent rallies will be deported even if they have already been fined or given a suspended jail sentence.  [KBS Global]

More over at TMH

It is good to see that the Korean government is taking swift and decisive action on this because what these Chinese protesters did on the streets of Seoul was disgraceful.  It is also good to see that the Korean government isn’t giving special treatment to the Chinese in the hopes of not upsetting China. 

To make this situation even more disgraceful, as I suspected, reports are coming out that the Chinese embassy orchestrated the entire student protest.  Could you imagine what the reaction in China would be if the South Korean embassy organized Korean students inside China, armed them with Taegukis with polls, and then had them attack Chinese people in protest of the Kugoryo issue

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  • Greencheese
    1:09 am on April 30th, 2008 1

    Sorry for going off topic, but does anyone have more information on the proposed military cooperation deal between Korea and Japan that the Chosun Ilbo is reporting on?

  • Peter Hungus
    1:50 am on April 30th, 2008 2

    Excellent. Deport all of the CHICOM's.

  • Are Chinese Riot Photos in Seoul Doctored?
    6:49 am on May 1st, 2008 3

    [...] is the claims coming from Chinese Internet users are claiming and from a comment left by Kalani on this prior ROK Drop posting he provides evidence that the Chinese Internet users may have a [...]

  • Kalani
    9:21 pm on April 30th, 2008 4

    Thought I'd post my remarks here. When I suggested that there were "Chinese residents" (Korean-Chinese) involved in the demonstrations over at Marmot's Hole, I was soundly told that I was alone in my thinking.

    However, now a few papers are now starting to mention the "Chinese residents" being involved. This is commonsense and simple math. There are some 4,000+ Chinese students in Korea — but the crowd was 6,500 or more. Even if ALL the students showed up, there were a lot of Chinese there that could only have been "Chinese residents."

    Once you accept that there may have been others involved, then we come to the point of trying to tell which Chinese were "students" and which Chinese were "residents." I'm glad the ROK police have a handle on this because I can't tell the difference.

    Next we come to the deportation ballyhoo. Doesn't the Prime Minister think? There are 4,000+ Chinese students in Korea — but there are 54,000+ Korean students in China. Who do you think gets screwed in a pissing match if a student is deported and the Chinese decide that reciprocity would be a nice thing to implement? This is why the Foreign Ministry wants to leave this in the hands of the Ministry of Justice to sort out — and don't want this to become a diplomatic row.

    Of course, we know that the Ministry of Justice can do wonders identifying violent folks from photos and CCTV video after years of practice evaluating photos and videos of all those attacks on the police lines for the past decades.

    Finally, the Chinese on the internet are claiming the photos were doctored. Don't know about that, but I came across two photos by accident that makes me think something doesn't smell right. A photo at http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/anti-chinese… looked familiar. It was of a young man wrapped in a Chinese flag standing over a fallen man in a brown coat. It looked similar to another photo at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapa….

    In the background in both photos, there is the same man with close cropped hair wearing a blue shirt with dark blue stars. His black fatigue pants in one photo may indicate he is a riot police officer. Both photos were taken with the police facing the opposite direction from the attack. In both photos there is a man with a brown coat that is being attacked.

    In one photo, the man appears to be held by someone in a white t-shirt with a China image on the back. In the other photo, the man is on the ground. However, in one photo the young man (with medical mask) doing a flying kick is wearing a black hat, white t-shirt with lettering over a black long-sleeve shirt and black sneakers with three broad white stripes. In the other photo, there is a young man straddling the man on the ground but he has a red hat, white t-shirt with unknown lettering (and no other garment under it). Directly behind him there is only the leg showing with a Chinese flag wrapped around it and the hidden figure has blue sneakers with three thin white stripes. The photo appears to be photoshopped by the way the figure in the rear is hidden.

    What makes these photos suspect is the two men who seem to be the same in both photos — the background figure in blue shirt with blue stars and the attackee in a brown coat. However, the attackers are different.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    11:10 pm on April 30th, 2008 5

    kalani thanks for the links. I will post them and see what everyone thinks and maybe people familiar with photoshopped pictures can weigh in on them.

  • Sonagi
    12:10 am on May 1st, 2008 6

    Thought I’d post my remarks here. When I suggested that there were “Chinese residents” (Korean-Chinese) involved in the demonstrations over at Marmot’s Hole, I was soundly told that I was alone in my thinking.

    No, you weren't. I agreed with you. The Chinese media has reported that both students and huaqiao were active participants in the rallies.

    What makes these photos suspect is the two men who seem to be the same in both photos — the background figure in blue shirt with blue stars and the attackee in a brown coat. However, the attackers are different.

    See my comment in the main follow-up post. Both photos were taken at the same place in the same time frame, but are not directly sequential, and this is evident not only by the differences between the kickers but the placement of other people and objects, like the ladder.

  • GI Korea
    5:16 am on May 1st, 2008 7

    Sonagi as always thanks for your comments. The links to the Chinese website with the pictures being manipulated to make it appear the Koreans started the rioting was quite interesting.

  • Tom
    2:35 pm on May 1st, 2008 8

    There are almost 40,000 Chinese students in Korea, representing 2/3 of all foreign students in Korea. Where the hell are you getting this number 4000? Someone is very poorly informed, not only that spreading rumors to defend the lawless Chinese rioters. Is Kalani Chinese?

    :idea:

  • GI Korea2
    4:26 pm on May 1st, 2008 9

    It really is screwed up that China gets to host the olympics. They have a country where tourists are harvested for their organs while still alive if you venture even slightly off the main streets of busy tourist destinations. As well as the punishing of a group of people who arent causing any problems other than trying to live their lives. If you've seen the people its something in chinese. They torture them, cut them open, rape the women repeatedly. So many unspeakable things. Not to mention the way they are handling the whole event. Free Tibet :P

  • ngawang
    5:50 pm on May 1st, 2008 10

    CHINESE DESTROYING THE EVIDENCE OF THE TIBETANS KILLED BY CHINESE SINCE MARCH 10, 2008

    1 May 2008

    Toelung Dechen (Ch: Duilongdeqing) County, Lhasa Municipality-Evidences being destroyed by the Chinese army

    The Chinese armed forces in their attempt to wipe out any kind of evidence related to the recent protests in Tibet are burning all the dead bodies of people who have been killed since the March 14 protest in Tibet.

    On 28th March, around 83 corpses were burnt altogether in an electrical crematorium, which was built by the Chinese government a few years back in the Dhongkar Yabdha shang town in Toelung Dechen county under Lhasa Municipality.

    Moreover, some eyewitness accounts confirmed that at around10.30 pm (Lhasa local time) on March 17, dead bodies of several were seen in two army trucks near a petrol pump located towards the west of Lhasa [this petrol pump has been one of the most restricted sites since the protests began in Tibet]

    Due to a heavy traffic jam around this petrol pump, a few Tibetans reported having seen blood discharges from the two trucks that were carrying dead bodies. In addition to this, there are more reports of dead bodies being transported to Toelung Dechen County in army trucks.

    On the evening of March 15, an eyewitness source confirmed seeing dead bodies being carried in a truck towards Toelung County.

    Many Tibetans who have been injured since the starts of the protests in Tibet continue to die in People?s Hospital with no immediate medical care.

    Moreover, one monk who was arrested from Drepung Monastery on 12th April also died in prison. But there are no further details explaining his death. Two more women are also reported dead immediately after their release from a prison in Lhasa.

    Following is the list of four new names* we can confirm for people who have been killed since the March protests in Tibet.

    Lobsang Tenzin 24 years, Gongkar County

    Gyaltsen Yarphel 43 years Gaden Monastery

    Ngawang Sherab Migmar 24, Gaden Monastery

    Both of them are brothers and died around the March 14 protest in Tibet. No further details are available.

    * In addition to the already released 61 total names and details of Tibetans killed during the recent demonstrations, here we are releasing 3 more names (with details) from the current death toll list which stands well over 140.

    Lhakpa Tsering (his name already reported on the death toll list) was killed after a gun shot to his forehead by the Chinese Armed Forces on March 14 at Lugug Street. He was a resident within the premises of gate number 11 (external boundary) ; gate no 1 (internal boundary) in Lugug Street. He is survived by his 2 year old child. He worked as a tourist taxi driver in Lhasa. Although his family did receive his dead body, but the local security forces took the body with them claiming that they needed to investigate the body at the People?s Procuratorate. His body was later burnt in Toelung County. His family was just given a bag containing some ashes with his name written on it.

  • ngawang
    5:51 pm on May 1st, 2008 11

    PHOTOS OF THE TIBETANS KILLED BY CHINESE

    http://www.stoptibetcrisis.net/photos4.html

 

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