Well said.

Remember all that irritating stuff GI Drunk did in the Ville back in the day?

…things like… walking in a menacing group while showing off gang-like behavior… catcalling and eye-funking the pretty girls… kicking a shutter or car mirror… shouting, loud singing and other look-at-me-I’m-drunk actions… thoughtlessly stealing stuff that isn’t tied down (traffic cones to whatever is unsecured in the back of ajashi’s truck)… openly making fun of the locals… etc… etc… etc.

Now, certainly, “leadership” doesn’t think GI Drunk’s behavior gets BETTER when he is pushed into a place with fewer restrictions, supervision, leadership, consequences, oversight, no curfew, etc.

No. GI Drunk is still doing the same stuff… just not in the over-controlled Ville where it is ignored (or, even expected) by the locals, channeled in the right direction by fellow GIs and limited by an MP/SP presence.

When I see the animals outside the zoo, I cringe… because, with my military appearance, it makes my life more difficult in Korea. (Although I’m not quite ready to skip shaving and grow some oily, shaggy hair to approximate an English “teacher”).

I’m a BIG fan of young (and old) GIs having the drunken-party time of their lives in an area where people are watching out for them and minimizing their impact on the local population. Life-long stories are made of this. But, I’m not a big fan of those same actions in Real Korea where they discredit America and Americans.

Wake up, “leadership”… and lead away from short-term thinking.

As for the off-limits,

“First brigade officials declined to comment on the motor scooter episode because of the ongoing investigation, but did cite multiple incident reports.”

In typical USFK fashion, they are full of it. If there were “multiple incident reports”, why weren’t they addressed? The regulations are very clear. If there is a problem, they are required to contact the establishment with the intention of resolving it… off-limits is “not to be used as punishment”. Secretly waiting until there are “multiple incident reports” (which they will never show any documentation on) and then suddenly placing an establishment off-limits is just game-playing… not showing concern for the health, safety and welfare of GIs.

Once again, “association” member clubs have much different rules. Dirty. Very, very dirty.

And, if GIs won’t stand up for honesty, integrity, consistency, selflessness and fairness in their leadership, they don’t deserve pr0n…

…and, for these reasons, it very well may be taken away.

FYI, only one of the commas in your post number #11 is necessary and used correctly. Can anyone guess which one it is?

The under 21 crowd is sick of the USFK rules and regs and will start to go to and hang out where there is not any military at. (Example DAEJEON) The soldiers come here drink and laught about the 1 am back on post rule.

One day someone is going to something stupid and then USFK will have to face that when it happens. I have never understood and will I ever understand why a soldier, who can die for his country at 18, can not drink.

USFK refuses to take any responsibility in stopping “underage” drinking (Breathalizers at the gate, restrictions on underage GIs, etc.)

As Leon LaPorte pointed out, these expectations are being narrowly applied to a select group of businesses in an arbitrary manner…

…as they are the businesses most likely to respond to a shakedown. Even if it isn’t a direct, pay-the-AFDCB-to-stay-on-limits type, it becomes an indirect shakedown with full knowledge of “leadership” on how the whole thing works.

Once you are off-limits, the “association” explains how they can help you with this problem if you are a member… which just requires ten grand up-front and maybe a little more for “special consideration” to solve this specific problem.

In the past, some of this cash was returned to people like Colonel Maria Dowling at Osan AB. I don’t know who gets it now… but, it is probable that somebody does.

USFK puts a lot more effort into hassling Korean businesses over curfew and “underage” drinking than prostitution and human trafficking.

Anybody have a clear explanation for that?

Any Family Mart
The Hilton
Incheon Air Port
The Korean Folk Village
Lotte World
Everland
E-Mart
Outback Steak House

The list could be endless. By applying the same set of standards currently applied to Beavers BBQ, all of these places should be off-limits ASAP. As a matter of fact, the entire country should be placed off-limits except for the bar district “villes” where USFK can exert its influence; forcing Korean business owners, in thier own country, to discriminate against those who are of legal age in this country.

Another option might be to restrict those under 21 to installation, its a big bad world out there and there is booze every where one looks!

We must, as good neighbors, remove the onus for enforcement of USFK rules from the local nationals (adjima and adjushi) and place it back with the military itself.

I’d also like to point out the Golden Gate in TDC was busted for PHT a few months ago and was off-limits for a total of 2 weeks. Sex acts performed in the club… No problem though. The owner is a well known member of AUSA, good neighbor program and, (of course) the GOLF COURSE …