I figured it was only a matter of time before the Korean-American community weighed in on the current US beef nonsense going on in Korea:
The Korean American Association of Greater New York has blasted some media outlets in Seoul for, as the organization put it, irresponsibly reporting groundless claims on the safety of U.S. beef.
They said the beef that ethnic Koreans consume in the U.S. and that is exported to Korea are the same, stressing it as proof of the beef’s safety.
The association claimed the image of Korea and Koreans is deteriorating in the U.S. because of such people in Seoul who use the mad cow scare to block the import of U.S. beef. Members said the move will adversely affect their own effort to have the Congress ratify the Korea-U.S. free trade agreement.
They urged responsible reporting by the Korean media saying groundless claims can snowball out of control in Internet-savvy Korea, distorting public opinion and fanning anxiety. [KBS Global]
The supposed Korean gene that makes them more susceptible to mad cow disease is some how remedied once a Korean moves to America it seems. Must be something in the air I guess.
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12:22 pm on May 6th, 2008 1
That is what makes the beef issue a good one to use for my site whose target audience - when I’m writing the posts - is Americans who have no familiarity with Korean society:
The fact no mad cow disease scare has risen in American society some years after the initial case (rightfully) caused Korea to (temporarily) ban US beef is a no-brainer.
The extraordinary claims that have recently been flung out also help anybody see the problem with the anti-US habits.
The fact the groups were targeting high school students to promoting protesting is also a part of the anti-US habit over the last 5 to 10 years.
The media’s reaction to Lee’s visit to the US and the beef deal has also partly (just partly) validating my claim that Korean society feels more free to promote Korean nationalism through anti-Americanism (for domestic consumption) when a pro-US alliance conservative is in the Blue House.
And seeing some notes like the Joongang Daily’s editorial — which ripped into the beef-mongering like an expat in the K-blogsphere — is a hopeful sign that there has been some movement toward the positive the last 5 years and we will not see a full return to pre-2002/2003 anit-US habits.
If a few of the strong voices in the society, particularly in the media (and education), would stand up with a differing opinion from the anti-US types, it would be a lot better for Korea (and for us).
1:05 pm on May 6th, 2008 2
how about the 100,000 korean exchange students studying in america or the many korean tourists as well? they’re all eating american beef!
i guess if it was against american beef, koreans in korea would find something to have a “beef” about (hah, that was a lame joke).
i am tired of people letting bitterness and anger poison them. it’s sad to see koreans have fallen into that trap.
btw i am korean-american, and only write the above because it worries me that south koreans seem not to realize who their allies are! if america isn’t south korea’s ally, then south korea has no allies =T
1:29 pm on May 6th, 2008 3
This disease is not to be taken lightly.
The American government, society and corporations skirt around this issue and refuse to directly address it. For political reasons, they will not give the attention, funding or publicity necessary to develop a solution.
Some government-funded “scientists” even claim it is not a real disease.
Even for those who admit its existence, the general strategy just seems to be to wait it out and hope for the best while ignoring or concealing the problem.
Many people will even get defensive, bordering on hostile, if an honest conversation, based only on facts, is attempted.
So, at this time, we have a widely-recognized disease with no cure and no treatment… and nobody seems to care to find one.
On top of all that, there is evidence that around fifty percent of our population has some symptoms associated with this disease. Worse, based on historical studies and mathematical models, there is a good chance this incurable condition will be passed on to around half of the the next generation after a 10 to 15 year incubation period.
Further, most people are oblivious to the true danger caused by an aggressive, overweight animal acting unreasonably and out of control.
Oh… uh… wait. Mad cow? I thought we were talking about PMS. I get those two confused all the time.
Uh… never mind.
What was that mad cow disease again?
1:41 pm on May 6th, 2008 4
Mad cow incubation period in humans is in the range of decades. You don’t think it’s premature to declare that no one will get it? Those Brits who died of the disease ate their diseased meat in the 80’s. They started dying in mid to late 90’s. The first infected Mad Cow in the US was discovered in 2003. Let’s see what will happen in few more years. Just once case, just one, will touch off a storm both in the US AND Korea. The US won’t even import beef from Canada if it’s over 30 months old. Yet Korea is expected to import with no restrictions at all. Why is Korea expected to be the only country in the world totally restriction free on beef imports, while other countries have all kinds of stipulations on beef imports - including the Americans themselves? Yet when Koreans point this out and say this is not fair, they’re called anti Americans.
3:08 pm on May 6th, 2008 5
As a Korean-American, I wished for nothing less than great prosperity of South Korea and its citizens….
But this miserable country had no hope!
I don’t believe a thing the retarded Korean media says anymore. People are blind, irrational, can’t control their emotions, uncivilized, and they HATE EVERYONE!
They hate the Japanese, they hate the Chinese, they hate the North Koreans, they hate the Americans, they hate the Korean decendents of Chinese citizens, they hate the Korean Americans, they look down on South East Asians, they resent Brits calling them dog eaters, they call the Taiwanese the island-chinks, the list goes on and on and on and on!
Frankly, I no longer take seriously of both Koreans and Chinese callings of the rape of Nanjing or Comfort Women. Even if it is true, SO WHAT? It happened decades ago, STOP bitching and move on!
For a moment, I thought South Koreans can finally behave like a civilized society and perhaps act like a developed nation… but who am I kiddin? Freaking hopeless country… blind… angry… destroying themselve… sad!
4:27 pm on May 6th, 2008 6
“how about the 100,000 korean exchange students studying in america or the many korean tourists as well? they’re all eating american beef!”
Maybe the USA can ship them out for their own safety. LOL. Kyopos too
. If Koreans have inferior and defective genes like the Chosun ilbo claims, then the USA should be careful about alowing them on their soil.
As it stands, the USA has rules regarding people with AIDS I belive, maybe Koreans and their defective genes need to be put in a similar catagory.
6:13 pm on May 6th, 2008 7
so tom youre telling me i should start dying any day now because back in 87 i had a steak in london????
thanks for the heads up!
6:38 pm on May 6th, 2008 8
Tom,
Read the signed US-Korea Beef Protocol:
http://www.bilaterals.org/article.php3?id_article=11988
Korea is NOT getting US beef older than 30 months.
10:42 pm on May 6th, 2008 9
Chopsticks, that’s only relevant to t-bone steak. I’m talking about some beef organs, other bone in parts, etc, that are highly questionable,. there will be no restrictions on those.
“No Hope”, read “Shattered”, do you really think it matters what you say? In the end, you’re just another same stupid Korean to them, that you just described.
2:57 am on May 7th, 2008 10
I was waiting for the fifth columnists community.. oops I mean Korean American community (
)to issue one of their fake insincere apologies, like they did with Cho Seung Hui.
They just want their relatives in the anti American groups to cool it until the US KOR FTA passes. Then they will continue to boycott American products. Its sad to think that American will be such suckers and will believe the Koreans.
Tom, yes I do think YU are a stupid Korean. But I think “no hope” gives me a lot of hope. “No Hope” speaks the truth, and its clear that YU hate him for that, and not me.
3:38 am on May 7th, 2008 11
once again i reiterate..
threat of mad cow disease? seriously, minimal at best, probably ZERO
threat of North Korea? nukes, million-man army, 50K rockets pointed at Seoul?
can’t S.Koreans weigh the real risks in the world?
as one of the other poster said, S.Koreans need to stop hating everybody =b
and also realize that Korea’s safety depends on good relations w/ American (and yes, Japan too!)
10:23 am on May 7th, 2008 12
Tom,
Where did you get only T-bone steaks? The only mention of T-bone steaks are in Addendum, Para 4 as a trial period:
“During the first 180 days following the effective date of these import health requirements, exports of T-bone and Porterhouse steaks will be accompanied by some
notation on the box that confirms for Korean officials that these cuts of beef come from cattle under 30 months of age. The Korean government and the U.S. government agree to have consultations upon the completion of the 280 day period with a view to addressing concerns after reviewing the notation’s effect on beef trade and its inspection.”
Reread again under Requirements of Beef Products, Para 17:
“The beef or beef products were produced and handled in a manner as to prevent contamination from SRMs or from MSM from the skull and vertebral column of cattle 30 months of age and over, in accordance with FSIS regulations.”
And if you need a definition on “beef or beef products”, see Definitions, Para 1:
“‘Beef or beef products’ includes all edible parts of cattle less than 30 months of age at the time of slaughter and products derived from all edible parts of cattle less than 30 months of age at the time of slaughter as described in the U.S. Federal Meat Inspection Act. However, “beef or beef products” excludes specified risk materials(SRMs); all mechanically recovered meat (MRM)/mechanically separated meat (MSM); and advanced meat recovery product (AMR) from the skull and vertebral column of cattle 30 months of age and over at the time of slaughter. AMR that is free of SRMs and central nervous system tissues (CNS) is allowed. Ground meat, processed products and beef extracts may contain AMR but excludes specified risk materials (SRMs) and all MRMIMSM.”
I can post on and on, but the fact in writing shows there are plenty of restrictions and checks on both the US and Korean side.
7:47 pm on May 7th, 2008 13
I normally refuse to talk about this subject as it is a great waste of time But…. For all the people who don’t want american beef in korea I have one thing to say “Don’t buy american beef when it arrives!!! Continue to line the pockets of those poor farms and the poor middle men with really high prices.” It’s just like TV if you don’t like it don’t watch it.
10:39 pm on May 7th, 2008 14
Kormatt,
It’s not that simple. I belong to Korean Chamber of Commerce in Brazil and know of many korean traders that wanted to import brazilan beef but they could not.
They say that american pressure on korean government to ban beef from other countries is very strong.
If korean consumers had the chance to choose among several suppliers it would be easy to let them choose. Just put american, korean, australian, brazilan, argentinian beefs in the market that they will choose.
Brazilan cow never had mad cow desease.
I think that what disturb the koreans the most in this issue is that people feel like americans are trying to control korean beef market for their own benefit, but koreans has strong sense of independence.
I just regret that america-korea relationship has to be weighted solely on beef issue. There are much more important things between the two countries.
2:18 am on May 8th, 2008 15
“but koreans has (sic) strong sense of independence.”
In their self proclaimed 5000 years of history, I think Koreans have had about 60 years of independence. And never in their history has the Korean people earned or fought for their independence.
They were servants of the Chinese, Slaves of the Mongols, slaves of other Koreans, a colony of the Japanese and never once have they fought and won their Independence.
Even today, Korean flock to brain washers like Kim Jong Il and moonie type churches in order not to be independant and to be controlled.
2:29 am on May 8th, 2008 16
“Agriculture Minister Chung Woon-chun told a parliamentary committee that his ministry would halt U.S. beef imports if a new case of mad cow disease was discovered in the United States
The comments appeared to conflict with the beef deal Seoul signed with Washington last month, under which it agreed not to immediately halt imports if a new case of mad cow disease was discovered in the U.S”
”
You can’t trust these clowns.
hxxp://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gliEd1Bi_qB68ysYSDK2b_vze2ygD90GNCLO0
These guys are bald faced liars. A USKOR FTA will screw America.
4:37 am on May 8th, 2008 17
In preparation for writing a review of this, I am trying to keep balanced on it — not leap to any conclusions….
…and I have not been able to follow the Korean press closely for some time due to work and school…
So….what do you guys think —- Question:
Can you think of another issue that has come up like this in the past few years?
It seems to me there is a spike in activity, now that Lee and the GNP control the government, especially the Blue House, that we haven’t seen in a few years.
Of course, this fits my theory on Korea’s anti-US habits, which is why I’m asking others for their input.
I can’t think of another time in recent memory where we’ve seen this much activity over such an item.
I think the FTA protest periods were clearly different — in that the press was much quicker and more forceful in criticizing the FTA protesters.
I can’t remember seeing this many articles in the press that gave the negative, anti-US side the platform to speak since perhaps 2003….???
I’ve seen a couple of editorials and some articles sticking more to the facts, but it seems to me there are more of the old-type “news” articles than we have seen for some years —
—–and the protest size the other day was significant - and it involved a significant effort to mobilize middle and high school kids….
….and we got the press quoting pop culture stars too.
I don’t think we got this kind of activity and coverage for the previous FTA periods or anything else in the last few years.
What do you think?
Especially you guys living in Korea who have contact with Korean adults. Does there seem to be a difference in the air these days now that the Blue House is in the hands of the GNP (and thus fears of losing USFK have lessoned with Roh’s departure)….???
4:55 am on May 8th, 2008 18
On shattered’s point about China-Korea relations, I disagree that Korea was a slave or downtrodden nation in most of their long history together and the Mongolian occupation was not that long. Korean soicety took in aspects of Chinese culture, but they made it Korean. In fact, when Chinese culture and philosophy underwent reform during Wang Yang-Ming’s influence, Korean scholar-officials scolded the Chinese for having abandonned proper social rules and Wang’s philosophical ideas didn’t take much root as Korea chose to remain true to traditional Neo-Confucianism.
On Dr. Yu’s point,
I’m weak in economic areas, and you would know more given your profession, but I question your point because I can think back to how Korea stumbled through the FTA with Chile (I think it was Chile).
This was a few years ago, around the time of the Great Garlic War with China.
Korea stood to gain much in an FTA with Chile by being able to out compete Japanese and other competitors in cell phone and household appliance markets and others due to Korea’s mix of cheaper prices but still good quality.
However, once the FTA hit the Korean news, the society got in a small uproar, and the government quickly said it would renegociate the deal —- just because of competition Korean farmers were going to get in grapes and other fruits and grains from Chile.
In the Great Garlic War, Korea was making a lot of money in chemical and electronics in Korea but due to domestic pressure on Chinese imports of garlic and fish and other such products that were part of a deal the government tried to keep secret, Korean protesters got the government to promise to renegociate again — until Beijing slapped high tarrifs on Korean imports that were selling well - and Seoul quickly backed down (and so did the Korean press).
So, I have my doubts about the idea that the US cattle industry is the primary reason Brazilian beef isn’t freely imported in Korea.
I’m sure the US cattle industry and US politicians friendly too it try to work markets in favor of US beef and not other nations….but I doubt it is a primary reason Korea doesn’t get beef from everywhere else — like from Japan — who has some great beef.
The problem is that Korean society wants to enjoy economic prosperity through exports around the world but doesn’t want to “endure” imports.
When you see Korea haven’t trouble working out deals with both stronger nations (US and China) AND weaker ones (Chile), then Korea is the one with the problem.
I remember at one of the big ASEAN meetings where some major deal was supposed to be struck, Korean protesters, and some in the Korean media, tried to sell the world on the absurd idea that —– Korea should be considered an industrialized nation - and thus given benefits in exports and so on like in the OECD membership —- but should ALSO be considered a “developing” nation in terms of its agricultural economy!!!
Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it too…
7:11 am on May 8th, 2008 19
[...] are continuing to voice their opinions of the safety of American beef: Korean-American organizations in New York, Washington and Los [...]
9:52 am on May 8th, 2008 20
6:12 pm on May 8th, 2008 21
Dr Yu,
I don’t disagree with the US wanting to control the beef market but to protest and spread rumors to stop people from buying cheap beef is just completely stupid. Like I said before if you don’t want it don’t buy it. Let others decide for themselves. Either way I don’t care because I can get all my beef at discount of the korean economy and I know it’s not “Korean Beef”
11:31 pm on May 9th, 2008 22
Usinkorea,
I’m not either expert in trade or business, but I’m a lawyer and the few things that I know about business I heard from my clients.
Regarding the information on FTA and the garlic war you mentioned in your post, that’s something new for me so thank you for your information.
Now, concerning the USA pressure on Korean government to ban Brazilian beef, that’s what I heard from my clients and from members of Korean government in Brazil like consul, ambassador and KOTRA staffs.
This is like the screen quota system existing in Korea that the USA wants it to be banned. The USA makes pressure on Korea in many ways.
Let’s be frank, there is not reason for Korea to refuse admitting a new beef supplier, because Korea has great interest to find alternative sources of commodity to reduce its dependence on American commodity trading companies like Cargil. Besides it is always good stretching relation with a country like Brazil allowing them to sell in Korean market, since Korea has to import beef anyway.
Actually, what happens in reality is that Korea has no sanitary agreement with Brazil allowing Brazilian companies to sell to Korea.
Brazilian government has been trying to open Korean beef market for years, but so far Korean government just hasn’t shown any sign of interest for their request. The only victory Brazil achieved until now was the opening of Korean chicken market few years ago. Korea had to open the chicken market to Brazil because Korea needed Brazilian approval to be admitted as a member of BID (Inter-American Development Bank).
I think Korea is resisting to open Korean market to Brazil because has fear of American reaction.
Regarding Korea willing to enjoy its prosperity restricting import, isn’t it what all countries in the world desires? That’s a legitimate interest that all countries in the world must pursue (in a fair manner).
Now, I agree in one point with the American guys here: Korea tends to take emotional approach to all matters related to USA and I think that’s not constructive. Actually we have more problematic “partner” like China, which is stealing Korean investment in China and treating us like dogs.
The more I think about their attitudes the more I’m convinced that we should unite to USA, Japan, India, Taiwan and other countries to stop them. Actually I think we should divide China in different small countries since it is a multicultural country. Soon the USA will cease to be the only superpower in the world, and between China and USA, I prefer the USA.
Finally, I think it is a bit unfair demanding Koreans to consume beefs that even Americans are refusing to eat. Would you accept Korea demanding Americans to drive Korean cars with safety problems, which even Koreans would refuse to drive?
11:41 pm on May 9th, 2008 23
Kormatt,
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I think that the only we have to solve the beef problem definitively in Korea is stopping consuming cows and getting back to dogs. At least Americans would not demand Koreans to import American dog beefs (As far I’m concerned…
1:57 am on May 10th, 2008 24
“to consume beefs that even Americans are refusing to eat”
Americans haven’t been avoiding beef. We haven’t heard much about Mad Cow in years. It is a non-issue in the American public. Hamburgers are as popular as ever.
If you are finding anything about Americans worried about the country’s beef supply, it must be coming from NGO groups on the fringe of society, because it is not having any significant impact on American consumers.
12:03 pm on May 10th, 2008 25
Actually I think I’m wrong.
Replacing cow beef with dog beef will not solve Korean beef problem at all, since it is more likely that china will demand Korea to open Korean dog beef market to them. We are fu…..d anyway …
5:39 pm on May 10th, 2008 26
“Finally, I think it is a bit unfair demanding Koreans to consume beefs that even Americans are refusing to eat”
Spoken like a true Korean. First nobody is DEMANDING you eat it, Koreans still have the right not to eat it. And saying that Americans are refusing to eat it is false. Americans eat the same meat.
“Actually we have more problematic “partner” like China, which is stealing Korean investment in China and treating us like dogs. ”
LOL, the old master is not so nice, to her old servant . That is a shame. Koreans walk around China so arrogantly, now they are reaping what they sewed.
10:16 pm on May 10th, 2008 27
China knows exactly how to deal with her old servant. The “garlic war” is a case study on how to deal with Koraens. Once the Korean side breaks the deal, you retaliate. You hit them hard, beat them like a dog. China did that by banning crappy Korean phones, when Korea broke the promise to allow Chinese garlic in Korea. The result was that Korea backed down.
I am looking forward to when Korea returns to the Chinese house, in the servant quarters. China is much more reasonable to deal with then Korea.
4:42 am on May 11th, 2008 28
“China is much more reasonable to deal with then Korea.”
Hahahahahahaha… that’s a laugh!
The entire world is in drag because of the retarded chinese such as shattered.
5:37 pm on May 18th, 2008 29
You’ve tried hard to open up their mind.
You’ve got the point.
Korean people has to be more rational, if not it’ll be a great barrier to it’s National and Economic Progress.
Before making such a big fuss, they should first tried to distiguish fact and myths. Koreans eating beef in America is one proof that American beef is safe.
In US there has been one case of BSE/mad cow disease (disease in cow) identified on December 23, 2003 and one case of vCDJ (disease in human) which are not related to each other. The vCDJ patient identified in the United States died in 2004. He grew up in Great Britain, the origin country of mad cow disease, where he likely acquired his disease and migrated in US in 1992. So far this is the only vCDJ patient in the United States identified.
With regards to the BSE/mad cow case in US, the disease is not contagious and it’s not likely that all of their cows are infected by BSE.
In my opinion if Britain export beef to Korea they can outrage like this…
I understand their forebodings and their worries about their health but I must say it’s exaggerated.
I don’t know what makes them think that US is that bad to import tainted beef to Korea.
What makes them think that it’s just all about money?
I don’t think US is that poor and frustrated to risk other nations’s health for money.
KIST toxicology researcher and KEST vice president Ryu Jae-cheon, himself, said that people are making too big a fuss over an issue which has very low infection rate much lower than bird flu. (Korea Times)
I can’t understand their aggravations against America.
With response to this issue, US Secretary of Commerce Carlos Guttirez affirmed the safety of the beef.
What do Koreans want?
American beef out of Korea?
I don’t think President Lee doesn’t know what he’s doing. Korean US Free Trade Agreement will play a vital role for more progressive Korea and it’s government has gone through a lot for the ratification of this Agreement and because of mad cow issue, which just comes from myths and urban legends, people would want to impeach him.
This would make it’s nation unstable..
tsk tsk tsk
9:16 pm on May 18th, 2008 30
“What do Koreans want?”
Good question. It seems that Koreans are seeting with hared towards the USA. At lease more and more average Americans are seeing this, which is good news.
I have noticed that there is a wave of Koreans getting shot in the USA. I think this is the Amerian way of letting Koreans know how they are not wanted in the USA.
Other asians in America, in my opinion are welcome, however Koreans are hated because of the hatred they have for Americans. Hatred begets hatred. Anyway, this is just my theory.
9:19 am on May 20th, 2008 31
You have no basis of what you’re saying. Even Choi did the Massacre in Virginia, it didn’t create a backlash among Koreans. I know you know that.
The problem is Koreans don’t know what are facts and what are urban legends about mad cow disease. They don’t even know what is SRM (Specific Risk Materials) On the agreement “beef products” excludes SRM which are the following:
The EC current TSE Regulation defines SRM in cattle as follows:
All ages: The tonsils, the intestines, from the duodenum to the
rectum, and the mesentery;
Over 12 months: Skull excluding the mandible but including the
brains and eyes, and spinal cord;
Over 24 months : Vertebral column, excluding the vertebrae of the
tail, the spinous and transverse processes of the cervical, thoracic
and lumbar vertebrae, the median sacral crest and the wings of the
sacrum, but including the dorsal root ganglia.
This means that even US exports meat from a 30 months old cow they will not export the above mentioned SRM’s.
When people started dying of vCDJ in 1996 more than 30 months old cow were banned not more than 20.
Where did they get this information that Americans don’t eat more than 20 months old cow?
Did they ask themselves if this is a fact or urban legend?
What makes them think that US is just trying to US them?
What makes them think Mr Lee is a US “puppet”?
I don’t think Mr.Lee was incompetent in making the agreement. All the rights of Koreans to heaalth and safety food chain were protected on the agreement.
I’ll say more next time.
And by the way, sorry to disappoint you..
I’m not American, I’m an Asian teacher to Koreans.
12:01 pm on June 1st, 2008 32
I am tired of defending America to Koreans. I am a Canadian living in Korea. Any anti-Americanism that I may have had when leaving Canada (which was really more a healthy rivalry than anything) has been replaced with this constant defending of America to Koreans. Why? Because this anti-American sentiment is so unbelievably unreasonable, irrational, and dangerous.
I am tired also of defending American and for that matter Canadian beef.
Here are some of the ridiculous claims I have had to argue with. I am hoping someone can give me information (FACTS) that will dispute these ridiculous claims, so that once and for all I can shut this down.
1) Koreans I have talked to say that Americans refuse to eat meat over 20 months old because they know it is unsafe. So they send that meat to Korea.
2) No other nation will accept meat over 20 months old because they all know of the extreme risk in this also.
3) Now, I saw one statistic that said that beef under 20 months only represented about 10% of American beef slaughtered. So…where is all this beef going to if Americans are not eating or exporting it. That would imply that Koreans, the vast nation of Korea, is consuming 90% of American beef. Not rational!
4) Koreans apparently have a gene that makes them more susceptible to the mad-cow disease in humans.
I don’t understand that no Koreans have gotten sick eating beef in America so far.
5) There is the argument that eventually we will see that in America there will be evidence that many diseases like Parkinsons etc are because of mad-cow and the incubation period may be more than a decade.
A few other things:
I believe that Koreans do not test their beef as stringently, so how do they know if they have had any mad cow in Korea?
Does anybody have any facts on things like this instead of just emotional facts (all made up to suit the agenda!)
2:38 pm on June 1st, 2008 33
Kate you are saying that Koreans are irrational? LOL.
6:35 pm on June 3rd, 2008 34
Kate,
Below are the facts that should answer your questions. However facts mean little to Koreans when worked up into a frenzy so don’t expect it to change opinions at all:
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/02/mad-korean-disease/#comment-157665
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=060000&biid=2008051919728
http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/20/korean-beef-less-safe-then-american-beef/
http://www.bombenglish.com/2008/06/03/16-mad-about-mad-cow/
12:43 pm on June 8th, 2008 35
You want some fact????????????
go to the korean website and read some
fact-based on articles. That will sure help you!
Do u know that the only 0.01% of the us cows are tested
and even in that ridiculous small number there are mad cows? and bones?
And please dontmake offensive claims to koreans who are protesting now
Sorry my English is short that I can’t show my ideas more than this–
I am here to see Americans’ attitude toward
problematic us beef… Why don’t you also go to the korean websites and look? read some ARTICLES
Lee myeong park is retarded let’s admit it.
4:10 pm on June 8th, 2008 36
Untested cow aged over thirty months enters food supply
Friday 25 January 2008
The Agency has been notified that a cow aged over thirty months (OTM) has entered the food supply without being tested for BSE. As specified risk material (SRM) was removed and it is unlikely that the animal was infected with BSE, any risk to human health is extremely low.
However, testing is mandatory for cattle slaughtered for human consumption at over thirty months of age.
The cow was slaughtered on 2 August 2007 at Linden Foods, Dungannon aged thirty nine months.
The error was discovered by the Northern Ireland Department of Agriculture and Rural Development (DARD) on 7 December 2007 when routine on-farm tests for brucellosis revealed that the cow had been misidentified as one under thirty months of age.
By then, all the meat (including that from the cattle slaughtered one before and two after) had left the premises and subsequent checks indicate that this meat has entered the retail chain and is likely to have been consumed.
A full investigation into the circumstances of this incident is under way.
Background to BSE testing
OTM cattle are allowed to enter the food supply provided they have tested negative for BSE. If there is no negative test result, the OTM carcass, plus the one before and two after on the slaughter line, must be condemned.
Since 7 November 2005, when the previous ban on OTM cattle was replaced by BSE testing, over 180,000 OTM cattle have been slaughtered in the Northern Ireland for human consumption.
On a UK basis, this is the eighth untested OTM animal that the Agency is aware have entered the food supply.
Specified risk material is those parts of the animal that contain almost all BSE infectivity, if the animal is infected with BSE.
http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2008/jan/otmjan08
9:21 pm on June 8th, 2008 37
Kate, maybe I can pass some words of wisdom to you that my father did to me; He told me “son, you can’t argue with an idiot.” (Now, I do not believe Koreans or any other people are idiots, but my dad used the term idiot to describe someone who fails to reason with logic.
12:37 am on June 9th, 2008 38
I think both Countries should stop all exports to each other. No more Hyundai or Kia cars to the U.S., no more Samsung or LG products exported to the U.S., no more Korean people immigrating to the U.S., all U.S. troops leave Korea. I think it is time we knock Korea back to the 50’s where they belong. The people in Korea act like third world citizens so let’s put these ungrateful people back to third world status where we, the U.S., brought them from. The people of Korea are so easily influenced by the Korean media it is pathetic. These people have no mind of their own what so ever and deserve to just be a forgotten nation.
5:26 am on June 9th, 2008 39
with small beef intestine :
http://www.clickasia.co.kr/about/yukkaejang.htm
6:47 am on June 9th, 2008 40
2005 Beef Business Bulletin Stories Archive
Rule Amends What Packers Can Use
Cattle processors on Sept. 7 learned that they will be able to use most of the small intestine as part of the human food chain beginning Oct. 7. The Food Safety Inspection Service amended its interim rule regarding removal of specified risk material to make the allowance. Packers who do so must exclude the distal ileum and document their procedure in their Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point plans, standard operating procedures or other prerequisite programs.
NCBA has pushed for this amendment knowing that establishments have the technology to effectively remove the distal ileum, which will allow the remaining portion of the small intestine to be used domestically for casings or exported. The export market for beef small intestine is valued at $25 million per year. This change should also allow many domestic sausage processors to stay in business as they will now have access to beef casings.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) also published a similar amendment to its interim final rule for removing risk materials from the foods that FDA regulates — dietary supplements and cosmetics — to allow the small intestine to be used. The FDA amendment clarified that milk and milk products, hide and hide-derived products, and tallow derivatives are not considered prohibited materials.(source : National Cattlemen’s Beef Association)
10/7/2005 3:42:00 PM
USMEF Boosts Industry’s Bottom Line; Return Of Beef Small Intestine
Beef small intestines, a valuable export commodity, return to U.S. beef production today after being disallowed since January 2004 when they were listed as a risk material following the first case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) found in the United States.
The U.S. Meat Export Federation (USMEF), a key player in getting small intestines back on the U.S. production and export lists, sees this move as a boost to the U.S. beef industry’s bottom line.
“The U.S. beef industry can now make use of a 10-pound yield per head that was previously discarded,” USMEF Assistant Director, Export Services Kevin Smith said. “The rule change gives U.S. packers another valuable option in export markets.”
The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) announced Sept. 7 that the Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) starting today will allow production of beef small intestine that has been separated from the distal ileum, a portion of the small intestine.
This change is a result of industry comments requested by FSIS in January 2004. USMEF took the lead in gathering information, sharing details with the industry and providing comments to FSIS.
Smith wrote a technical paper on the beef distal ileum that was sent to FSIS, packers and casing manufacturers. Several of Smith’s conclusions have been included in the FSIS rule changes.
USDA export statistics show in 2003 the United States exported 15,475 metric tons (mt) of beef intestine with 46 percent to Japan at $1.02 per pound and 36 percent to Korea. U.S. exports of beef intestine to Japan in 2003 alone were estimated at more than $16 million.
“With the expectation markets such as Japan and Korea will reopen soon to U.S. beef, this new ruling is especially important since those were the top two markets for U.S. beef intestine and hold significant value for the U.S. beef industry,” Smith said.
With the return of the beef small intestine to the U.S. export list, more value exists in open U.S. beef markets such as Mexico, the fourth-largest market for U.S. beef intestine in 2003.
By removing 80 inches of the approximately 100-foot small intestine, Smith concluded the intestine can be safely used for sausage casings and other human food while ensuring the entire ileum, which is 18 to 24 inches in length, including the distal portion is safely removed.
The U.S. Meat Export Federation is the trade association responsible for developing international markets for the U.S. red meat industry and is funded by USDA, exporting companies, and the beef, pork, corn, sorghum and soybean checkoff programs. (source : Cattlenetwork.com)
US Expands Canadian Cattle Imports
Friday, September 14, 2007
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WASHINGTON —
Canadian cattle over 30 months of age will be allowed into the U.S. market starting Nov. 19, the Agriculture Department said Friday in expanding its policy on mad cow disease.
In May 2003, the discovery of an Alberta cow with mad cow disease caused the United States to slam the border shut to cattle imports from Canada.
The border between the world’s largest trade partners reopened for Canadian beef from younger cattle within months of the original ban. Live cattle under the age of 30 months have been allowed to move across the border since July 2005.
Bruce Knight, undersecretary for marketing and regulatory programs, said the change is firmly based in science and ensures that U.S. regulators will protect the country against the disease.
Eating meat products contaminated with mad cow disease, known scientifically as bovine spongiform encephalopathy, has been linked to more than 150 human deaths, mostly in Britain, from variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
There have been three cases of mad cow disease in the U.S. The first, in December 2003 in Washington state, was in a cow that had been imported from Canada. The second, in 2005, was in a Texas-born cow. The third was confirmed last year in an Alabama cow. There have been 10 cases of mad cow disease in Canada.
(Source : Fox News)
1. US cattle small intestine
http://www.clovegarden.com/ingred/sausage.html
2. Korean cattle small intestine
http://nungkysman.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A05A417D22C49E2D!193.entry
8:00 am on June 9th, 2008 41
Truth-
Here is another fact-
If I don’t want it, I won’t buy it.
8:18 am on June 9th, 2008 42
Here you go Korea - just wanted to let you know, you’ll never get beef like this! You can keep eating your home-grown pork anus that you think is a delicacy!
http://www.ridgefieldfarm.net
you’ll never eat our 1st class beef, thats only for US!
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4:29 pm on June 10th, 2008 43
Sausage Basics: Sausage Glossary
Published by Joel January 22nd, 2007 in Food, Meat. Share This
• botulism - An illness from exposure to the toxin botulin, produced by the Clostridium botulinum bacteria. A bad way to go—double vision, slurred speech, and paralysis—and the reason all sausage must be properly cooked or otherwise prepared.
• bung - The caecum (or cecum), which connects the large and small intestines. Beef bungs are often used to make larger sausages.
• caps - Another term for “bung.”
• casing - The tubes into which sausage is stuffed, traditionally the intestines of the same animal being prepared. Some casing is meant to be consumed along with the sausage, while some synthetic casings are meant to be removed before cooking. The larger the animal, the larger the casing, meaning the larger the sausage.
Casings varieties include: hog casing, made from pig intestine; lamb casing, made from sheep intestine; beef casing, made from cow intestine; collagen casing, made from animal connective tissue (very common in the States); cellulose casing, made from solubilized cotton (common in hot dogs); muslin casing, made from fabric; synthetic casing, including those made from alginates (a salt of alginic acid, often derived from seaweed) and plastics, made from dead dinosaurs who we’ll never be able to turn into sausage. (Hat tip: 3men.com.)
• grind - All sausage is ground or otherwise pulverized before being stuffed into casing, via an electric or hand-cranked grinder. The “grind” denotes how big a chunk will come out of the grinder, from a 3/4-inch “coarse grind” to an 1/8th-inch “fine grind.”
• middles - Casing made from the large intestine.
• offal - The funky parts of an animal, like the heart, brain, liver, kidneys, and glands, sometimes used to make sausage. It’s “oh-full,” not “awful.”
• rounds - Casing made from the small intestine.
• wurst - It’s just the German word for sausage. We may often think of “wursts” to be cold, spreadable sausages, but they don’t have to be.
http://dethroner.com/2007/01/22/sausage-basics-sausage-glossary/
5:00 pm on June 10th, 2008 44
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