Comments on: US Congress Attempting to Ban Men’s Magazines from Servicemembers http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/ Serving on the Forgotten Frontier Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:39:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Cloying_Odor http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157350 Cloying_Odor Wed, 07 May 2008 04:04:37 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157350 "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.”

Thomas Jefferson

]]> By: Disinterested http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157278 Disinterested Wed, 07 May 2008 00:23:27 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157278 I personally find porn magazines to be boring but I also believe strongly in personal freedoms. As long as a person is of legal age what they do or buy for use in the privacy of their own home is their business. This 'peeking' into everyones bedroom is just stupid. Spider Robinson said it best in Lady Slings the Booze... "Lady Sally doesn't mind anything human beings can do that doesn't involve former food or former people..." Time and again the supreme court has refused to define obsenity what makes this gentleman think he knows what it means and how can he dictate to our servicepeople what they are allowed to buy. Men and women in all branches of our service are dying for their country trying to "protect" them from the possible evils of chaffing or developing a forearm like a mountain gorilla seems a poor way to say thank you. I personally find porn magazines to be boring but I also believe strongly in personal freedoms. As long as a person is of legal age what they do or buy for use in the privacy of their own home is their business. This ‘peeking’ into everyones bedroom is just stupid. Spider Robinson said it best in Lady Slings the Booze…
“Lady Sally doesn’t mind anything human beings can do that doesn’t involve former food or former people…”

Time and again the supreme court has refused to define obsenity what makes this gentleman think he knows what it means and how can he dictate to our servicepeople what they are allowed to buy. Men and women in all branches of our service are dying for their country trying to “protect” them from the possible evils of chaffing or developing a forearm like a mountain gorilla seems a poor way to say thank you.

]]> By: Richard Saunders http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157273 Richard Saunders Wed, 07 May 2008 00:08:26 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157273 Here are the details of what went down with the last ban in '96. I remember Penthouse had challenged and lost so I dug this up for the details. http://www.robsworld.org/dishonor.html Here are the details of what went down with the last ban in ‘96. I remember Penthouse had challenged and lost so I dug this up for the details.

http://www.robsworld.org/dishonor.html

]]> By: GI Korea http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157240 GI Korea Tue, 06 May 2008 23:04:45 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157240 The loss of porn I could personally care less about it is the banning of FHM and Maxim style magazines that is really pissing people off because so many servicmembers read these magazines. Then the reasoning for the ban is totally dishonest; it has nothing to do with sexual assaults. These Congressmen are trying to impose their Christian conservative agenda on US servicemembers and it makes you wonder what they are going to attempt to ban next? If Maxim is banned because of sexual assaults then how in the world is AAFES allowed to sell alcohol then? Steve the military plays by different rules because as Brendon Carr already stated a number of porn magazines have already been banned from PXs for some time with no legal challenges. The loss of porn I could personally care less about it is the banning of FHM and Maxim style magazines that is really pissing people off because so many servicmembers read these magazines. Then the reasoning for the ban is totally dishonest; it has nothing to do with sexual assaults. These Congressmen are trying to impose their Christian conservative agenda on US servicemembers and it makes you wonder what they are going to attempt to ban next? If Maxim is banned because of sexual assaults then how in the world is AAFES allowed to sell alcohol then?

Steve the military plays by different rules because as Brendon Carr already stated a number of porn magazines have already been banned from PXs for some time with no legal challenges.

]]> By: Apple Pie http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157237 Apple Pie Tue, 06 May 2008 22:59:55 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157237 I cringe when I see a woman with her daughter in the "intellectual" section of the PX, trying to convey to the child that reading is fun. "...my friend showed me this thing last summer..." I cringe when I see a woman with her daughter in the “intellectual” section of the PX, trying to convey to the child that reading is fun.

“…my friend showed me this thing last summer…”

]]> By: steve http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157222 steve Tue, 06 May 2008 21:45:24 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157222 I'm probably way out of date on this issue, but I thought Larry Flynt (publisher of Hustler) had pretty much killed this issue with his suit back in the late or 70s (or was it the early 80s). As I recall, the crux of the issue was that government could not censor publications, which banning the sales of effectively does. Especially in the case of magazines that are readily available in the US. I’m probably way out of date on this issue, but I thought Larry Flynt (publisher of Hustler) had pretty much killed this issue with his suit back in the late or 70s (or was it the early 80s). As I recall, the crux of the issue was that government could not censor publications, which banning the sales of effectively does. Especially in the case of magazines that are readily available in the US.

]]> By: Sonagi http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157220 Sonagi Tue, 06 May 2008 21:38:06 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157220 <i>"Take away Constitutional rights. No problem. Take away the porn. Loss of faith in America. Makes you wonder what our military boys are really fighting for."</i> :lol: :lol: :lol: <i>"This may sound crude, but I am willing to bet this person screaming how bad porn is has a nice collection somewhere."</i> I was wondering myself if any of the 16 co-sponsors were clients of the late Madam Palfrey or her competitors. “Take away Constitutional rights. No problem. Take away the porn. Loss of faith in America. Makes you wonder what our military boys are really fighting for.”

:lol: :lol: :lol:

“This may sound crude, but I am willing to bet this person screaming how bad porn is has a nice collection somewhere.”

I was wondering myself if any of the 16 co-sponsors were clients of the late Madam Palfrey or her competitors.

]]> By: Bob Walsh http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157174 Bob Walsh Tue, 06 May 2008 17:58:36 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-157174 I hate it when politicians pick the military as their venue for half-baked social engineering stunts. I hate it when politicians pick the military as their venue for half-baked social engineering stunts.

]]> By: Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-156989 Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) Tue, 06 May 2008 04:59:50 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-156989 I think the Internet has killed more of those magazines than the bluenoses. I think the Internet has killed more of those magazines than the bluenoses.

]]> By: Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-156988 Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) Tue, 06 May 2008 04:59:25 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/05/06/us-congress-attempting-to-ban-mens-magazines-from-servicemembers/#comment-156988 Me too. In fact, I remember it was at AAFES in 1989 that I discovered just how many different kinds of porn magazines there were. Prior to joining the service I had thought there were only three or four, but the top shelf of the magazine rack at the PX was a real revelation. Me too. In fact, I remember it was at AAFES in 1989 that I discovered just how many different kinds of porn magazines there were. Prior to joining the service I had thought there were only three or four, but the top shelf of the magazine rack at the PX was a real revelation.

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