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By GI Korea on June 20th, 2008 at 5:23 am

Camp Humphreys Captain Sentenced for Sexual Misconduct

People like this guy are a special kind of stupid:

An Army captain saw his 19-year military career end abruptly after he was found guilty of sexual misconduct toward female subordinates and lying to investigators about his actions.

Capt. Clyde E. Callwood, former commander of the 520th Maintenance Company, was sentenced Wednesday to 15 months in prison and dismissal from the service.

Military judge Col. Donna M. Wright handed down the sentence after finding him guilty earlier in the day of attempting to have improper relationships with two female subordinates, aggravated sexual contact, making a false official statement and obstruction of justice.

“This case is about an arrogant Army captain who’s abused his position” and tried to “force himself” on two low-ranking female soldiers, prosecutor Capt. Scott Hughes told Wright in a closing argument.

Callwood fancied himself “a ladies’ man,” said Hughes, but “in reality he’s not a ladies man, he’s a sexual predator.” [Stars & Stripes]

You have to be quite the idiot to be one year away from retirement and then sexually harrass soldiers when you are their commander, especially when you had sexual assault allegations brought against you before that you got away with. Good riddance and enjoy Leavenworth.

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  • Richardson
    10:30 am on June 20th, 2008 1

    He wanted sex; if he’s going to Leavenworth he’s apt to get it, in the end.

  • Gerry
    10:40 am on June 20th, 2008 2

    Perhaps the fact that he only made Captain after 19 years speaks for itself. Definately a loser.

  • Dan85
    10:50 am on June 20th, 2008 3

    This guy is obviously a douchebag, but I have known of more than one officer that retired as a Captain and had VERY distinguished careers. They were all prior-enlisted, or warrant…

  • Gerry
    12:37 pm on June 20th, 2008 4

    Dan85, I stand corrected.

  • Kingkitty
    9:31 pm on June 20th, 2008 5

    I knew this guy personally and all I can say the newspaper made him look better than he actually was.

  • we all fall short of the grace of god
    9:59 pm on June 20th, 2008 6

    What if it is all a lie, this man’s entire future is ruined. God and 4 others really know what happened, the rest of us can only speculate. Let’s not judge for it is not for us to do so. Instead of throwing stones either way, we should bow our heads, humble our hearts and just pray for both sides, they are all in serious need of prayer. Justice will truely be served on judgement day one way or another.

  • Sonagi
    3:45 am on June 21st, 2008 7

    Those of us who don’t believe in a sentient God can’t wait for the Judgment Day that is never going to come. That’s why temporal justice is needed.

  • Jax
    5:14 am on June 21st, 2008 8

    Soldier Rule of Thumb: If you want to be a ladies’ man, then go off post.

    Soldier Rule of Opposable Thumbs: If you insist on conducting business in the barracks, then stay in your room by yourself.

  • Kingkitty
    6:39 am on June 21st, 2008 9

    No you dont understand god man….this guy did worse …he was just caught for the stuff the paper mentioned. He was far worse…no throwing stones here…I knew this guy well

  • shattered
    7:06 am on June 21st, 2008 10

    Hmm any girls out there remeber this man?
    http://www.eplckappa.org/bio/bio_C_Callwood.html

  • Gerry
    8:38 am on June 21st, 2008 11

    Anyone want to speculate as to why a man with a BS in criminal justice and an MA in human resources would knowingly destroy his career, reputation, and be sent to jail after completing 19 years of service? Fear of being sucessful? Yeah, dumb thought I know. But its what came to mind.

  • Sonagi
    9:32 am on June 21st, 2008 12

    It’s quite possible that he had been engaging in this kind of behavior for years before a couple of women finally had the courage to file complaints. If a man fondles a woman, it’s his word against hers. Without a witness, I don’t know that I’d come forward unless the sexual harassment was an ongoing problem, and I felt seriously threatened.

  • Chickenhead
    10:33 am on June 21st, 2008 13

    Kingkitty,

    One of the reasons nothing gets solved in USFK and the dirtbags continue their dirty business as usual is because everything is always so secretive… and the apathetic majority don’t man-up to bring attention to the bad apples that ruin it for everyone.

    If this guy was a dirtbag, you should be detailing everything you know about him AND his enablers.

    In fact, you should have done it at the first appropriate opportunity BEFORE he came to public attention… instead of making a few cryptic comments after his scumbaggedness got so big and out of control that somebody higher up was forced to do something about it to cover their own rear end…

    Somewhere out there is someone else you know of that is a complete scumbag doing their small part to weaken America and its military while countering the correct things that you have worked hard to improve.

    Now is the time to speak up… and bring some attention that derails their career of screwing it up for everyone else… before they do it for 19 years.

    That goes for all of you.

  • shattered
    11:59 am on June 21st, 2008 14

    Chickenhead, I have read a few people asking you for some details about your criptic comments about corruption. You are heavy on the jokes but thin on the detalis. For example who is this guy banging the 15yo?

    Now is the time to speak up :)

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  • Kingkitty
    9:50 pm on June 21st, 2008 16

    Chick…things were brought to the attention of EO and others but not until he caught his STD did people begin to take the victims seriously

  • Chickenhead
    11:53 am on June 22nd, 2008 17

    Awww, shattered…

    When matters of wrongdoing in USFK come up, it always comes back to, “Let’s change the topic to ChickenHead.”

    In doing the right thing, am I that much more interesting than the guys who are doing the wrong thing?

    Think about it.

    But, let’s address your statement… yet again.

    I am not on base/post on a daily basis so I don’t see much of the fraud, waste, abuse, corruption, etc firsthand. For the most part, I meet contractor and military members socially rather than professionally… so I am not submerged in the daily gossip and inner workings of base/post life.

    Further, I am known by a name other than ChickenHead and I don’t single-mindedly pursue USFK corruption as I do here… nor do I even bring it up.

    I do pick up hints of where it can be found (if someone was interested in looking) based on what people say to me and to each other… but I certainly can’t interrogate those around me.

    I infer other examples based on commonly available information (such as my buddy easily barfining a girl last weekend indicates that open prostitution and human trafficking still exists in Songtan… or AAFES-only products openly for sale in Korean shops suggest black marketing… etc Etc ETC).

    And, people give me information with various levels of detail. Frequently, the more detail I get, the bigger chance they ask me not to share those details… probably for the same reasons many people here don’t post what they know.

    Let’s look at the case of the 15 year-old…

    The guy who was getting 15 year-old tail (presumably) isn’t bragging about it right now. I would love to post his name and company as I feel it would bring the right attention to this story and force Osan to take action.

    But the father asked me not to… and his reasons are valid.

    The father would prefer that his name and family situation is not the hot topic of gossip in his professional community. More importantly, his daughter doesn’t need everyone in her high school to know the deal. Once this guy’s name is in the open, the question of, “So, whose daughter were you banging?” by friends and co-workers becomes very likely. It goes from there.

    For this reason, as per the father’s request, I told this story without any names in hopes somebody in a position to do something would see it. I made the offer (as I now will again) to supply the father’s contact information to anybody who has an official e-mail address (embassy, military). Then it can be resolved first-hand.

    As it is, Osan law enforcement leadership is well aware of the situation, including everybody’s names, and has done nothing… much like the nothing they do with open prostitution, human trafficking, GIs illegally buying/importing counterfeit goods, black marketing… etc. (The seem to do a good job with curfew, though… and suspect raape accusations.)

    By bringing some attention to this story, I was hoping some up-and-coming “leader” would see this as a good chance to put a check in the Osan’s Zero Tolerance on Pedopphilia box.

    Guess not.

    If, out of frustration, the father changes his mind, rest assured I’ll be the first to post it here…

    …then, shattered, your burning, yet ultimately unproductive, curiosity will be satisfied.

  • shattered
    3:52 pm on June 22nd, 2008 18

    If you don’t want to name names, how can you expect others to?

    Now is the time to speak up.

  • Chickenhead
    10:33 pm on June 22nd, 2008 19

    Kingkitty…

    Ahhhh… the plot thickens. Now we have a case of EO and a chain of command ignoring the pleas of victims. Now that he is a convicted “sexual predator”, perhaps it is time to look at why he was protected… and by whom.

    shattered,

    Excellent logic. I avoid smoking pole… but I don’t expect that from you. Cool?

    If you want to troll, I’ll usually bite.

    Heh.

  • Mike
    9:23 pm on June 23rd, 2008 20

    As stupid is as stupid do’es. :lol: :roll: :oops: :twisted:

  • doubtmenow1
    8:08 am on June 26th, 2008 21

    he was enlisted then he went ocs thats y he was a cpt, he was my old commander

  • All Facts
    11:24 pm on July 3rd, 2008 22

    I know this guy pretty well. I worked for him at Bliss and at Humphreys. He’s cool just make you work alot. I also know the main so called victim involved personally. She is no damn saint. She had a thing for Cpt. Callwood and wanted to be like us, dating officers. I have emails from her on this matter. I also 9mo. left. We were told not to get involve and not to talk about it. Once I am out it will be publically known and I can tell you he wasn’t messing with her. He didn’t give her any play. He also didn’t do it. She’s my girl, but this was messed up.

  • To-the-left
    11:34 am on July 4th, 2008 23

    Why was he not charged with adultery, he is married? This is his 4th account of sexual misconduct towards females. His commander must be commended for finally putting this predator in a place where treatment is possible (only if he want to be cured). Apparently, he used his rank to abuse females and that is very sad.
    Who gave him the STD? This type of conduct surely exposes others (males and females)to STD’s or even HIV. For all those who protected him, you are lucky he did not get to your wives or daughters like he did mine. Just think of all the females who because of fear of retaliation did not file charges but became a victim of captain callwood. AKA “ABASI”

  • To-the-left
    11:52 am on July 4th, 2008 24

    To “ALL FACTS…” THE EMAILS YOU HAVE ARE FROM CAPTAIN CALLWOOD, IT WAS PART OF HIS GAME…CHECK-MATE. DON’T CONTINUE TO LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD. FROM A PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE YOUR STATEMENT, wanted to be like us, dating officers. I have emails from her on this matter. I also 9mo. left. We were told not to get involve and not to talk about it. Once I am out it will be publically known and I can tell you he wasn’t messing with her. He didn’t give her any play. He also didn’t do it. She’s my girl, but this was messed up.

    QUESTION:
    WHAT IS A DATING OFFICER?
    IF SHE IS YOUR “GIRL” WHY IS SHE EMAILING YOU HER DATING DESIRES?
    THE FACT THAT YOU MENTION YOU HAVE 9MO LEFT MEANS YOUR ARE GUILTY OF THE CRIME.
    YOU STATE THAT ONCE YOU ARE OUT YOU ARE GOING PUBLIC…WHERE ARE YOU NOW? NORMAL PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE RETIRING IN 9MO OR ET’SING IN 9MO; BUT YOU SAY “OUT”.
    YOU STATE “SHE’S MY GIRL” WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I THINK YOU TO ARE A PREDATOR WHO WAS ONCE AGAIN REJECTED.

  • shattered
    11:56 am on July 4th, 2008 25

    Post the emails if this isnt some pile of BS.

    CALLWOOD —> GUILTY!!!

  • battle
    1:24 pm on July 5th, 2008 26

    GOD IS A FORGIVING GOD,REGARDLESS OF WHO IS WRONG. TIME WILL TELL SOON ENOUGH NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKE IT WILL BE MADE KNOWN FROM EITHER SIDE. YOU WILL REAP WHAT YOU SOW. IN STEAD OF JUDGING EITHER SIDE LETS PRAY FOR THEM. BECAUSE THEY NEED IT!!!!

  • doubtmenow1
    3:07 pm on July 7th, 2008 27

    to the left you need to email me

  • ALL FACTS
    1:50 pm on September 3rd, 2008 28

    TO: TO-THE-LEFT

    The emails I have are from the victim known as Jenkins. She used my computer and left information on there. They are definitely from her. My NCO, told me not to get involved. He told me to wait until I get out. She also had postings on her myspace which I did turn over. I asked her about it and all she could do is laugh. I am not saying he is a saint, but I know for a damn fact that he didn’t do it. So make sure you have your info correct before you try to check someone. I make sure I will give you a shout out when this story hits the fan. Check this!

  • Rahbugirl
    12:01 pm on February 24th, 2009 29

    I too met him before this deployment and have been trying unsuccessfully to contact him. I can’t say that I knew him well. If anyone can assist me with contact info I would like to write him.

  • Rahbugirl
    12:04 pm on February 24th, 2009 30

    I do and I would really like to send greetings to him from Trinity Baptist Church family and let him know that we are praying for him.

  • theotherguy
    8:08 pm on February 24th, 2009 31

    The moment you said,
    “am not on base/post on a daily basis so I don’t see much of the fraud, waste, abuse, corruption, etc firsthand. For the most part, I meet contractor and military members socially rather than professionally… so I am not submerged in the daily gossip and inner workings of base/post life.”

    All your comments made complete sense. Basically you have ZERO real knowledge about things, and instead rely on knowledge passed to you by others over drinks. So when the military / civilian / contractors are tired from their day and want to b#tch / moan / just get the stress off their chest (we’re all human) that is the info you receive. Which gives your arguments and statements the same validity as Mr. Kims. Which Kim you ask? Any of them, pick one, randomly pick out a member of the local population and that is about your knowledge base.

    As for the 15yr + GI situation, it happens and the GI was wrong. It was a smart decision to let the family take care of it. If they want to press charges its up to them, they will most likely win because of how sensitive the US military is to -anything- related to sexual abuse.

    As for your “crusade” to “enlighten” the world about USFK’s “evilness”, please give it a rest. You’ve already shown that you have NO actual knowledge of whats going on, just hearsay and gossip.

  • 80s 90s Troop
    8:53 pm on February 24th, 2009 32

    I was waiting to hear someone take this side. During my twenty years, I saw more than a few female troops cause their CO, NCOIC or just those of higher rank serious trouble. I tend to side with my gut and experience, when I say that something doesn’t smell right here. Females know the army will jump if they make even a little noise in this area.

    Glad to see not EVERY ONE is falling for this. Not that it will do him any good.

  • 80s 90s Troop
    9:04 pm on February 24th, 2009 33

    I just love you people that scream with your keyboard. Who you trying to convince?

    I say in a quiet voice -> Not Guilty of this.

  • CALLWOOD
    11:10 am on February 25th, 2009 34

    If you have ever seen this black as night man, you would cross the street to avoid him. He is a pervert and needs to go to jail. Callwood is no better then a ra/pist.

  • GI Korea
    8:28 pm on February 25th, 2009 35

    I left this contact information at the prior comment you left:

    Directorate of Inmate Administration
    1301 Warehouse Rd
    Fort Leavenworth, KS 66027
    (913) 758-3646 or DSN 585-3646

    http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/USDB/

  • GI Korea
    8:39 pm on February 25th, 2009 36

    I think the fact he is black has nothing to do with the crime, so I don’t even understand why you bring it up.

    People need to also remember that he was convicted of making false official statements and obstruction of justice. What was he trying to cover up from the investigators?

  • CALLWOOD
    11:05 pm on February 25th, 2009 37

    [DELETED BY ADMIN - You are now in the moderation que for all future comments for now on]

  • JAFO
    11:12 pm on February 25th, 2009 38

    Don’t feed it GI.

    Callwood. You are very funny. You think Obama is “black”.

  • Pete
    5:41 am on February 26th, 2009 39

    The army is full of sexual predators. Senior leadership gives it lip service then looks the other way. Most senior leaders take the “not on my watch” attitude and go to great lengths to keep things under the rug until they PCS. The promotion system is screwed up and the senior NCO ranks are full of NCOs with the morals of an alley cat. Sad new is I feel the situation will only get worse in the future. Sounds like this idiot CPT got off light. More than likely these charges were just the tip of the iceberg of his crimes.

  • Rahbugirl
    6:43 am on February 26th, 2009 40

    Thank you so much.

  • gerry
    9:03 am on February 26th, 2009 41

    PETE, “the army is full of sexual predators? The promotion system is all screwed up? Senior NCOs have the morals of alley cats?”

    Wow, I assume you will be getting out as soon as your enlistment is up. I for one would never have stayed in if things were that bad.

  • callwood2
    11:32 pm on February 27th, 2009 42

    [DELETED BY ADMIN]

  • theotherguy
    2:26 am on February 28th, 2009 43

    Can we please leave the racist political stuff off this site. Its baseless mud throwing.

  • JAFO
    3:45 am on February 28th, 2009 44

    Noooooo! You fed the troll!

    Don’t worry about Obama being dictator for life. As much as they are going to try, they can’t ban ALL the rifles.

  • Pete
    9:05 am on February 28th, 2009 45

    Gerry,

    Thanks for the good advice.

  • GI Korea
    9:40 am on February 28th, 2009 46

    I took care of it and yes I agree racist political remarks are not wanted on this blog.

  • You
    1:30 pm on February 28th, 2009 47

    Chickenhead

  • You Can't Handle The Truth
    1:36 pm on February 28th, 2009 48

    Chickenhead–you can call 784-5515 and ask for anyone in the Osan Security Forces leadership chain to report a Child Sexual Assault, that you alledge happened. If you don’t report what you know, then you are obstructing justice and involved in a cover-up/protecting the alleged child rapist. I will seriously help you report this crime and ensure you have the right access to Korean National Police and any military assistance needed–can you handle doing the right thing or are you just going to make wild accusations w/o facts? If you want to meet up so we can get the authorities involved–email me at rokwhistler@yahoo.com otherwise you have no credibility.

  • ChickenHead
    8:12 pm on February 28th, 2009 49

    theotherguy,

    Ho, ho ho!

    As usual, when the message is unattackable, attack the messenger. This strategy works well with the emotional and the uneducated.

    USFK apologists are so cute when they do that… because it is one of the few tool they have in their Toolbox of USFK Support… other than deflection, ignoring and lying.

    Now, why don’t you take a deep breath, choose something I have stated in a posting somewhere and simply demonstrate why it is wrong while proposing an alternate explanation to explain the facts?

    Because you can’t… because you are an incapable person… or because I am not wrong… or both.

    “Basically you have ZERO real knowledge about things, and instead rely on knowledge passed to you by others over drinks.”

    I presume you have never been into space yet you are aware the earth is round and revolves around the sun based on available information backed up by personal observation and filtered through a lifetime of experience…

    …or maybe you aren’t…

    …which would explain the completely ignorant premise of your statement.

    Now, theotherguy, you can call me dumb and I can call you stupid all day long… but it doesn’t stop fraud, waste and abuse in USFK… or even rationalize it away.

    Do you wish to keep whining about me or are you ready to explain away questionable actions and events around USFK?

  • ChickenHead
    8:57 pm on February 28th, 2009 50

    You Can’t Handle the Truth,

    “you can call 784-5515 and ask for anyone in the Osan Security Forces leadership chain to report a Child Sexual Assault, that you alledge happened.”

    You need to find my original posting on this. This WAS reported by the father to everyone from USFK to the American embassy. Everyone was aware. Everyone was friendly yet claimed someone else was responsible. As it happened off-base, everything led to KNP which didn’t want to get involved with an American-on-American situation.

    At the time I made the posting, Osan Security Forces was very aware of the situation. They did nothing.

    “If you don’t report what you know, then you are obstructing justice and involved in a cover-up/protecting the alleged child rapist.”

    My criminal career is getting off to a bad start then since everything I know has already been reported… just not acted upon. What a stupid accusation. It almost seems as if you are more concerned with pestering me than actually turning the wheels of justice.

    “I will seriously help you report this crime and ensure you have the right access to Korean National Police and any military assistance needed”

    O.K. If you are truly concerned and you have these great connections with Osan law enforcement and KNP, simply look up the police reports. Then my “wild accusations w/o facts” will neither be so wild nor w/o facts.

    “can you handle doing the right thing”

    When looking at the situation where everybody with official power to “do the right thing” scrambled to avoid responsibility, this accusatory question directed at me is almost laughable… bordering on hateful.

    “If you want to meet up so we can get the authorities involved–email me at rokwhistler@yahoo.com otherwise you have no credibility.”

    In my original posting I said I would e-mail all contact information to an OFFICIAL E-MAIL ADDRESS… this means a military, government or embassy address with a verifiable person attached…

    …rokwhistler@yahoo.com is no better than kiddytoucher69@pervert.com when it comes to personal information on teenage girls.

    If you wish this to be reported and acted upon, e-mail me the official address of someone who cares and I will send contact information for the father…

    …otherwise, YOU have no credibility.

    My e-mail address is chickenheadlab@yahoo.com.

    This offer has been around for a long time yet NOBODY has actually bothered to send me an official address.

    Personal attacks aside, that says a lot.

  • theotherguy
    11:25 am on March 1st, 2009 51

    @Chickhead

    This will be the last post I make in response to you. Not to argue with you (because you have no creditability) but to let you know I consider you nothing but a troll.

    You have no knowledge of what your talking about, no experience, and any knowledge you have received is with your friends over drinks. So as such you have no creditability.

  • ChickenHead
    12:12 pm on March 1st, 2009 52

    theotherguy,

    Once again, you attack the messenger instead of the message.

    …and you call ME a troll. Heh.

    Now, smarty-pants, explain this away:

    Outside the main gate of Osan, I can purchase pirated game CDs, pirated DVDs, etc. This is not hidden and this is not a secret. Do we agree this situation exists?

    This pirated media is illegally copied and distributed. This media is illegal to sell, import into the United States and may even be illegal to possess in certain situations. This is illegal under Korean law, American law and the UCMJ. Do we still agree?

    Osan Air Base is not able to enforce Korean law… which is always the fall-back excuse. However, they are required to insure American servicemembers do not violate the UCMJ, American law or the laws of the host country. Do you disagree with any part of this?

    Osan Air Base is fully aware these establishments are engaging in illegal activity. Osan Air Base is fully aware these establishments allow/encourage American servicemembers to break the law. Do you agree these places are engaged in illegal activity? Do you agree that servicemembers are breaking the law? Do you agree that Osan Air Base is fully aware of this?

    Osan Air Base is required to place any establishment which engages in illegal activity off-limits (AFDCB regulations). They have not been put off-limits. Do you agree they are not off-limits? Do you agree regulations require them to be put off-limits?

    Now, kindly tell me where I am wrong on any part of this line of reasoning. Explain to my why these places are on-limits.

    This isn’t trolling… this is looking for an honest explanation as to why this situation exists… especially when establishments are put quickly off-limits for things such as curfew violation and serving 19 year-olds which are not only legal but are rather victimless in comparison.

    Keep in mind, this isn’t a pisssing contest. If I am wrong about my observation or interpretation, I am certainly willing to listen to alternate explanations and change my attitude if they make sense.

    The problem is, nobody can explain these things away… nor has anyone tried. They simply attack me without addressing my questions or statements.

    So, once again, I ask that you choose something I have posted. Tell me why my observation or interpretation is wrong. Most importantly, give an alternate explanation which more clearly explains the situation.

    Until that time, you more clearly fit the characteristics of a troll.

  • theotherguy
    12:39 pm on March 1st, 2009 53

    Only responding to the questions you had.

    You “honest explanation” is that it would be entirely too much effort to police those DVD marts. Especially when they can be found EVERYWHERE not just outside USFK bases. If the KNP won’t police their own, its not worth USFK’s time to bother. Illegal selling of copyrighted happens in the US, in Canada, in Korea, in Japan, most especially in China, Australia, the Philippines. I guess USFK needs to put most of the world off limits then? And sense any sex not in the missionary position is illegal by UCMJ, we might was well put video camera’s inside everyone’s quarters to make sure their obeying the law.

    Your tactic is the classic “stick man” argument. And anyone who’s been on this site more then one month knows your blatantly anti-USFK, and believe USFK is the root of all evil in Korea and the cause of all problems. At least that is how you portray yourself. And like I said before, you have zero knowledge to base any argument on, the most you got is “I heard this from a friend” or “I saw this happening outside the base”. Both of those are based on external input with no actual knowledge of whats happening, nor the full story.

  • ChickenHead
    10:39 pm on March 1st, 2009 54

    Ha!

    theotherguy,

    I can only guess you are joking… because, if you are serious, you are a characture of yourself.

    Let’s take a look.

    “You “honest explanation” is that it would be entirely too much effort to police those DVD marts.”

    It is too much effort to place a line between “Beta Site Railroad Tracks” and “Market Area (after dark)” that says, “Pirate DVD/CD Shops”? The effort is rather underwhelming. How do you get out of bed in the morning?

    “Especially when they can be found EVERYWHERE not just outside USFK bases.”

    Oh, you mean like “Hospitals, Pharmacies, Barber Shops, Gambling Houses, Soju Tents, Steam and Turkish Bath Houses, Prsotitution Houses, Tattoo Parlors and Acupuncture Clinics”?

    It takes a certain kind of skill to base an argument on the opposite of glaring reality. It takes a certain kind of dumb to think it will work.

    “If the KNP won’t police their own, its not worth USFK’s time to bother.”

    You got me there. Apart from a fake, and very temporary, crackdown now and then, USFK isn’t really even concerned about prostitution and human trafficking openly supported by servicemembers.

    You didn’t address the part about “legal” curfew violations and “legal” drinking (over 19) being suddenly worth USFK’s “time to bother”. Explain why this is different.

    And, once again, the “It is KNP’s Fault” argument comes up. This isn’t about what KNP enforces. This is about giving a lawful order to servicemembers to stop engaging in illegal activity. Without customers, the shops will close… unless you are suggesting USFK is filled with undisciplined servivcemembers unable to follow the most basic of orders.

    “Illegal selling of copyrighted happens in the US, in Canada, in Korea, in Japan, most especially in China, Australia, the Philippines.”

    Well, you are right. And pole smoking happens in San Francisco bathhouses… so why don’t you just snuggle your mug between my thighs, there, buttercup. You do now see the pointlessness of your statement, don’t you?

    “I guess USFK needs to put most of the world off limits then?”

    Yes. I am the bad guy who makes the “classic “stick man” argument”. One thing is sure, you are a master of being unintentionally funny on multiple levels at the same time.

    “Your tactic is the classic “stick man” argument.”

    And speaking of classic arguments, I’m not sure there is a “classic “stick man” argument”. This is primarily due to the fact that The Great Big List of Fallacies of Relevance doesn’t seem to include a “stick man” argument… therefore a classic one cannot exist.

    The closest thing I could find was the “Straw Man Argument”. But, hey, a lot of people mix up their magnoliophyta and their coniferophyta.

    “we might was well put video camera’s inside everyone’s quarters to make sure their obeying the law.”

    No… no stick or straw men here. Move along, citizen.

    If we streamed it on the Internet as pay-per-view, I bet we could get that new school built without Korean funds, though… so you might be on to something. That’s the first intelligent thing you have said… well… at least the most intelligent.

    Now that Part One is complete, let’s look at Part Two. This is the obligatory personal attack which attempts to make up for a complete inability to counter any statements I have made.

    “And anyone who’s been on this site more then one month knows your blatantly anti-USFK, and believe USFK is the root of all evil in Korea and the cause of all problems.”

    That is not true. You will be unable to find any instance of anti-USFK posts. What you WILL find is anti-fraud, waste, abuse and corruption within USFK.

    Regardless of my beliefs, or your representation of them, my depiction of USFK’s faults are valid. Solving these problems do not damage USFK, the military or America. Ignoring or excusing these faults and empowering the people who perpetuate them do very real damage to these institutions which you claim to suppor.

    Now, who is really anti-USFK? The person who strives to improve the mission by exposing fraud, waste, abuse and corruption or the person who perpetuates, encourages and defends it… that would be you.

    Certainly you are able to differentiate right from wrong yet you excuse USFK’s incorrect actions and attack those who wish to change them.

    “And like I said before, you have zero knowledge to base any argument on, the most you got is “I heard this from a friend” or “I saw this happening outside the base”.”

    In the previous post, I clearly explained a situation with publicly-available facts… no rumors or secret knowledge. You failed to rationalize USFK’s actions… or even truly address them.

    “Both of those are based on external input with no actual knowledge of whats happening, nor the full story.”

    Short of opening a shop or writing military regulations, it would be hard to get closer to the situation.

    Now, once we establish a stable framework for debate by discussing obvious examples such as this, we will continue to the less-obvious ones.

    As of now, even in the most simple of examples, you seem unable to differentiate right from wrong, consistency from inconsistency and relevant facts from extraneous emotion-based distraction.

    Try again.

  • Pete
    6:31 am on March 2nd, 2009 55

    The reason the stores that sell copies of orginials (DVDs purses, etc)are not off limits and you have curfews and off-limits on bars that may engage in sex is because everyone can benefit from buying the fake goods while only the unaccompanied individuals usually benefit from the traditional off limit areas. Accompanied individuals, for the most part, do not need to be out late at night or try to score off post,
    but trips to China can bring bags of fake goods.
    As soon as Korea becomes fully accompanied, like Germany, the curfew and off limit bars will probably go away.

  • ChickenHead
    9:40 pm on March 7th, 2009 56

    Well, here is a quick update.

    Despite a lot of bluster and personal attacks, theotherguy was completely unable to defend USFK’s actions… primarily because they are undefendable.

    Pete offered the best explanation yet. It is backed up by observation. Leadership buys fake DVDs and their wives buy fake bags. Why spit on your own face.

    I would add that, to sell fake DVDs in Songtan, you have to pay The Man… and The Man plays golf on Osan Air Base with the guys who have the power to put fake DVD shops off-limits.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    It is interesting how in our world of political-correctness-gone-amok where even the appearance of guilt-by-association is avoided at all costs, some things are never “noticed”. No good can come from the close relationship between base leadership and obvious criminals in an environment with lots of loose money… especially when leadership is in a position to affect that money supply.

    Somehow, this is all encouraged and even marketed at an important relationship with “our downtown friends”… although the actual benefits (to USFK) of this relationship are never clearly defined.

    As for You Can’t Handle the Truth, as I suspected based on his accusations of me “obstructing justice” and being “involved in a cover-up/protecting the alleged child rapist”, he was not as interested to “seriously help you report this crime” as he originally claimed to be.

    After a week, he did not reply to the posting. He did not e-mail me any contact information to ensure “you have the right access to Korean National Police and any military assistance needed.” That would have been very easy…

    …so, I must conclude he was a troll… based on the snarkiness of his post which was equally balanced between promising help and accusing me of being a criminal and incapable of “doing the right thing” while “making wild accusations”.

    The other option is that he looked up the police reports and found there was nothing he could do… and he doesn’t have the balls to post his conclusion because it doesn’t fit with the USFK-can-do-no-wrong agenda he was pushing.

    KNP was uninterested then… and, I would guess, even more uninterested a year later. The American embassy nods understandingly and then points to the Justice Department. Osan stutters and points to KNP with one hand and the Justice Department with the other… because if they get involved, there might be scandal. The Justice Department is far away and busy… and, unless pushed by a congressman, will take a report and get back to you.

    It all does make some kind of sense in a circular-logic-kind-of-way.

    In the end, USFK is quick to find an excuse to fire a family guy just doing his job… yet doesn’t want to get involved when an accused kiddy-toucher drives by the school on his way to work each day. He may still be working on Osan.

    Explain that one away.

    I’ll close by repeating that, for almost a year, I have openly offered to send contact information to anyone in an official position who wishes to investigate this and, despite promises and accusations from the trolls, nobody has followed through.

    That says it right there.

  • theotherguy
    12:36 am on March 8th, 2009 57

    Sorry ChickenHead you live in your own little world, that only exists in your head. You even put words into peoples mouths and draw stick man arguments left and right. I never defended USFK, I simply said your an idiot who has no clue what your talking about. I’m hoping everyone can see that anything and everything you say has the credibility of a tabloid magazine. In fact, that is your new name, Tabloid.

    Your attacks on USFK, along with your insinuations are so far off that they no longer merit me responding. You can’t hold a reasonable debate through point – counter point because you use stick man, ad hominem attacks and just make facts up and/or twist them to fit your arguments whenever possible.

  • RealAmerican
    1:08 am on March 8th, 2009 58

    This guy isn’t even a REAL AMERICAN. Who cares what he says. ChickenLover, as you have yet to prove you are a REAL AMERICAN. I have to conclude you are a troll.

  • You Can't Handle The Truth
    1:13 am on March 8th, 2009 59

    Chickenhead–I offered you the chance to call Security Forces directly. You backed out. I offered the chance for you to email me. You backed out. I tire of people who talk and don’t act–I don’t respond to whiners. Again, you want to meet, then email me: rokwhistler@yahoo.com
    and I’ll set it up; bring evidence not innuendo. Your last post claimed you didn’t trust me for meet–same goes here. Let me predict your response, “…like I already said, give me an official name/email otherwise I don’t do anything,” Whine, whine, whine. What do you have to lose but 10 minutes of your time by seeing me in person? Apparently you willingly sacrifice more than that in the many establishments in Songtan, what’s 10 minutes with someone who asked for it instead of was subjected to your presence randomly and in-voluntarily?

  • Leon LaPorte
    1:39 am on March 8th, 2009 60

    I must admit I have personally met Chickenhead and he does exist, though he may troll and has some pretty far out theories.

    That said, there is one thing he wrote above that I will concur with 100% – If you want to find the dirtiest scumbags (civilian, military and Korean) in Korea, just poke around any USFK golf course.

  • matt
    3:48 am on March 8th, 2009 61

    Gerry,
    I knew this guy. He was prior service, which makes him even more stupid. Don’t sh*t where you sleep.

  • You Can't Handle The Truth
    3:18 am on March 8th, 2009 62

    I ride Harleys. Most cage drivers believe bikers are all criminals. “Anybody that wants to ride bikes and wear leathers must be into crime, drugs or other nefarious activities.” I can vouch that is so not true.

    Not all golfers, like not all bikers, are criminals; whether they are Koreans or Americans.

  • Leon LaPorte
    3:45 am on March 8th, 2009 63

    I’m a biker as well. Some bikers are criminals. :lol: I agree, not all golfers are criminals. I still say if you want to find some criminals there is a high likelihood they are hanging around a USFK golf course.

    One example: The Golden Gate is placed off-limits after a hostess is caught, shall we say, red-lipped under a table offering some quality time to a service “member” by the MP’s.

    During, the very short period, the club was off limits, guess who is out plinking on the ninth hole. In between meetings with the AFDCB to get his place re-instated.

    What I and many others are saying here is this is a clear case of the appearance of impropriety. Here’s a known pimp, a human trafficker, allowed to access post to play golf even while under investigation for illegal activities. I don’t know, you tell me…

  • ChickenHead
    6:13 am on March 8th, 2009 64

    Trolling implies there is something worth catching. All I see are mental minnows nibbling around the edges. But it makes for interesting conversation as long as I have the time.

    theotherguy,

    If you are going to take the time to write something, try to have something to say first. Please. It isn’t even that fun countering your points.

    “Sorry ChickenHead you live in your own little world, that only exists in your head.”

    Hey… whatever keeps me from killing myself when I wake up each morning.

    “You even put words into peoples mouths and draw stick man arguments left and right.”

    And an example would be?

    What’s up with you and stick men? “stick man argument” gets TEN hits on Google. Does that mean nothing to you?

    “I never defended USFK, I simply said your an idiot who has no clue what your talking about.”

    so…”it would be entirely too much effort to police those DVD marts” sounds awfully like a defense to me… except that it was such a lame excuse that it didn’t defend. As for the second part, I gave a perfect example of something EVERYBODY knows about… and you were unable to show a single statement that was false or that demonstrated I had no knowledge of the situation… or any defense in my follow-up post… so, I guess, technically, you never did defend USFK. You just attacked me instead of my message. I guess every party needs a poooooper!

    “You can’t hold a reasonable debate through point – counter point because you use stick man, ad hominem attacks and just make facts up and/or twist them to fit your arguments whenever possible.”

    And examples are?

    This is the pot calling the new-fallen snow black.

    Which bring us back to the beginning. Are you sure it is me who lives in a fantasy world?

    You Can’t Handle the Truth,

    Like a broken record… with the volume getting lower and lower on every spin.

    “Chickenhead–I offered you the chance to call Security Forces directly. You backed out. ”

    Ooooooooh! You mean you offered me the chance to call a number which is posted on the Osan AB website? Wow!

    Thanks! Thanks for… uh… nothing.

    I assume you are talking about the same security forces that took a report and told the father to deal with KNP and the American Embassy. Yeah… they will be all over that now, eh?

    “I offered the chance for you to email me. You backed out.”

    E-mail you what? There is nothing to e-mail you.

    “I tire of people who talk and don’t act”

    Bravo! You mean like people who are all charged up about others “obstructing justice” and quickly offer to “seriously help” with the “right access” to KNP and USFK… and… then we find the “act” is to give the “chance to call Security Forces directly”.

    I am definitely with you on that one, brother. To heck with those people. Euch!

    “Again, you want to meet, then email me: rokwhistler@yahoo.com

    I trying to think why I would need to meet… or want to meet. Why make a simple thing complex. You either know somebody who can help or you don’t. If you do, give me their e-mail address. If you don’t, why are you yapping?

    “Your last post claimed you didn’t trust me for meet”

    No. I said I wasn’t going to send any details about this situation to a random e-mail account. This is a personal family matter in which the only welcome intrusion is someone in an official position who wishes to help.

    “–same goes here.”

    …because of my reputation as a trained killer? Or is it one of my various superpowers that I am only now learning to bring under control. That whole nickname, the Butcher of Songtan, was just lies by my competitors spread to discredit me.

    “Let me predict your response, “…like I already said, give me an official name/email otherwise I don’t do anything,””

    So as not to disappoint, like I already said, give me an official name/email otherwise I don’t do anything.

    What is so hard about that?

    …other than nobody in an official position cares. They didn’t then and, as many people have come and gone, they don’t now.

    Unofficial people do not need to be involved. That is sounding more and more like you… just another curious bystander wishing to insert themselves into a situation that is none of their business.

    My involvement only goes as far as to assist the father in finding someone who will do something about it. He was frustrated, I am vocal and the cause is just. It seemed like someone in charge (maybe with a girl in school on Osan) would get word and say, “I’ll look into this. Let me talk to the father.”

    Nothing.

    …except trolls looking to insert themselves into the gossip chain.

    (Although after seeing what incredible slunts many dependent daughters are (especially after curfew) I should not be surprised).

    If there is someone who can do something about it that cares about this kind of thing, I’ll send the father’s contact info and they can work out the details. I, and my credibility, are not involved.

    Secret meetings and anonymous accounts are unnecessary.

    Why would anyone disagree that this is a logical and prudent way to handle the situation?

    “What do you have to lose but 10 minutes of your time by seeing me in person?”

    A better question is, what would I have to gain?

    Say, you aren’t a hot bittch, by any chance, are you? I might reconsider.

    Leon LaPorte,

    “I have personally met Chickenhead and he does exist, though he may troll and has some pretty far out theories”

    There are three statements about me and the best one is that I “exist”. I am sad.

    I honestly don’t mean to troll. I call what I see.

    I’m curious about which theories are far-out. Maybe I didn’t elaborate enough. I welcome the chance.

  • Unsatisfied LG DACOM Victim
    2:26 pm on March 8th, 2009 65

    This is why I will never give money to the AUSA. I was coerced into attending the annual Camp Humphreys AUSA luncheon in 2001. In his opening remarks, the garrison commander thanked all of the local holders of “corporate memberships.” He called all of the local juicy bar owners out by name to thank them for their contributions and their generosity towards the AUSA. A bunch of pimps and human traffickers.

  • RealAmerican
    8:59 pm on March 10th, 2009 66

    Chickenlover=Non American.

  • ChickenHead
    12:00 am on March 11th, 2009 67

    RealAmerican,

    Drat! You caught me!

    Ahhhhh… but when I get back to Planet Volton, I will re-energize the Summit Disruptor, seed the Cloning Vats of Gamma Four and build an unstoppable cyborg army not seen since the Conquest of the Tannhauser Gate.

    And then… oh, yes… and then, all you Real Americans with your puny weapons will find yourself mining cobalt for the Overlord on the Outer Rim!

    And your Earth women will cater to my every twisted whim! Threesome? NO! Foursome! NO! I will have a THREE BILLIONSOME!

    Muah hah hah hah haaaa!

    Dismissed, sub-being!

  • ChickenHead
    9:48 pm on March 17th, 2009 68

    Just a quick update…

    …because I’m not good at letting things go until they are resolved… and the opponent has been pounded into the hole he was begging for.

    Subject: theotherguy

    He continues to show himself to be unable to answer my questions or counter my criticisms of USFK. Although he was enthusiastic to attack me personally, he was not able to show how any aspect of his attack was valid… even when given an example to work with.

    Verdict: USFK fluffer (but not good at it), angry due to being bullied in school (for good reason)

    Final Word: Come on, if USFK is defendable, you can do it. If not, you prove my point through your silence. Checkmate.

    Subject: You Can’t Handle the Truth

    Despite empty promises of inside assistance followed by accusations of “obstructing justice” and being “involved in a cover-up/protecting the alleged child rapiist”, things got awfully quiet when he was exposed as a connection-less gossip-monger more interested in getting personal information on teenage girls e-mailed directly to him than protecting female dependents by demanding accountability from USFK.

    Verdict: Troll, Alligator/Hummingbird hybrid, possible diaper sniper

    Final Word: You can change my opinion withing microseconds by having one of your contacts in an official position contact me from their official e-mail address.

    Subject: RealAmerican

    He was stomped into a hole so deep he has even been scarce in posting under his usual name.

    Verdict: Not smart enough to be considered a troll, will likely be unable to resist the temptation to reply in a way that will not be clever, funny, contributive or even have much of a point.

    Final Word: Dismissed, Sub-Being!

  • theotherguy
    5:48 am on March 18th, 2009 69

    CH

    I mentioned above that your arguments are no longer valid due to you have ZERO actual knowledge. I understand you like internet forum debate, I do too, but you have to know when you’ve overstepped your own limits. Join the US military and get stationed in Korea, or get some form of job within USFK and then we can hold a rational debate on this topic.

    Honestly the fact that you feel the need to glorify yourself and can’t just let the argument go is rather disturbing. Go outside, get some air, enjoy life, “put your hand so on your head and step away from the keyboard”.

    Honestly you have no form of integrity, right in the other “contractor” thread I take swipes at USFK for their screwed up attempt at a curfew and their inability to set a consistent SOFA policy. I don’t see things as such black/white situations, apparently you like to (for sake of internet argument).

  • ChickenHead
    8:36 am on March 18th, 2009 70

    theotherguy speaks!

    “I mentioned above that your arguments are no longer valid due to you have ZERO actual knowledge.”

    Ohhhhhh… is that so.

    Well, if you scroll farther up, you will see that I posted something concerning businesses that exist solely to allow USFK personnel to conduct illegal activity… which USFK does not place off-limits despite regulations requiring them to.

    Then, you can determine if it is factual or not. If it is not, you can clearly explain why to all the nice people reading this. I will be publicly shut down. I will apologize for my mistake and my ignorance (I have done it before when I found that I was wrong).

    However… if it is factual, then you are faced with a dilemma.

    Either I have more than “ZERO actual knowledge” or I am psychic… or I am God… which would lead to questions you truly are unprepared to address.

    “Join the US military and get stationed in Korea, or get some form of job within USFK and then we can hold a rational debate on this topic.”

    So… if you are not a gynecoloigst, you don’t know what to do with pusssy? Well… in your case…

    I’m not asking you to disprove my statements. I’m asking you to counter them.

    This is not a high threshold of opposition.

    Just tell me why you THINK my statements are wrong… not me, mind you… my statements.

    ““put your hand so on your head and step away from the keyboard””

    Uhhh… is English your first language… or… should… I… type… really… slowly?

    “Honestly you have no form of integrity, right in the other “contractor” thread I take swipes at USFK for their screwed up attempt at a curfew and their inability to set a consistent SOFA policy.”

    Ahhhh… so, while fluffing, you get a little biitchy when you get a puubic hair. Typical. Everybody fluffs USFK until they get bent over and it hurts.

    But you complain of a specific symptom that affects you and not the cause. You treat this as an isolated event instead of a small part of a larger pattern of unethical behavior and illegal actions semi-openly conducted by USFK.

    “I don’t see things as such black/white situations, apparently you like to (for sake of internet argument).’

    Which is exactly why I see things in black and white… meaning that I have seen NO good come from USFK’s unethical and illegal actions.

    Good and bad policy has many shades of gray… that can be debated.

    But… show me one place where corruption, violation of the law/rules, back-room deals or the politics of careerism and self-enrichment has done anything to benefit an organization or a country.

    Last week it was the support of known pimps and human traffickers while GIs get ripped off and their families broken… this week, relatives’ companies get big contracts while better companies suffer… next week, illegal curfews and honest contractors get fired… then taxpayers buy ox tails for the worst Koreans while GI Joe can’t get up-armored transportation. Next thing you know, with all the money wasted through corruption, the military will be asking injured GIs to pay for their own treatment.

    Every time you needlessly fluff USFK, you support these things. Do you believe there is any gray?

    Look in the mirror and decide who you are as a man.

    Dismissed, Fluffer!

  • loggie520
    12:41 pm on May 13th, 2009 71

    I know this Soldier real well.

  • loggie520
    12:50 pm on May 13th, 2009 72

    I was at the trial, I know the truth and am in the company. Everyone has their views but if they only knew the truth. I know he is not guilt. I heard the testimonies and knew everyone involved. This is what happens when you have high standards and the rest of the unit (1SG, BN Cdr, XO, CSM and NCO’s) are weak as well as doing illegal things. CPT Callwood was always hard but right. This is someone that valued training and values. I never saw him with a woman during the 1 1/2 years I knew him. I worked close by and he have high values. I also know that Jenkins and Innis are not telling the truth. Both of them as well as other females were interested in men with power and rank. This is not their first time accusing a Soldier of acts like this. I guess you is a female that was interested too and got rejected like the others and now you are shattered too.

  • loggie520
    1:04 pm on May 13th, 2009 73

    I knew him personally and I also know that you are part of this unit and could not handle his strong leadership. He did do worst by not telling about all the leaders in the BN and BDE that are sleeping with Soldiers. I was at the trial as well as I knew CPT Hamilton and LT Won that slept with Soldiers and NCOs. Both lied at the trial due to the fact that they saw a chance to get back at him. There is a lot more to this mess. I also know that there was a lot of changes to statements and I respect him. BLUF I know he is not guilty. Major Jackson 1SG Miller, SSG Thomas/Taylor and several NCOs should be on trial. I will write a letter to informed the CG of what took place. Why did most of the leadership not attend this trial or took interest? To hide their dirt. I know officers, CPT James Johnson, Maj Jackson, LT Won, CPT Humphreys, CPT Broaden, CPT Smith and the list goes on that slept with plenty Soldiers. I just wish him and his family the best and low life people/soldiers get your information from the court room and not the lies that the government put up.

  • loggie520
    1:06 pm on May 13th, 2009 74

    You are really shattered, did you wanted him to remember you? I remember him.

  • loggie520
    1:15 pm on May 13th, 2009 75

    Are you another reject that CPT Callwood refused to date. I knew him and it is apparently silly of you with this comment. You should be in the company and you will know the truth like the rest of us do. If he was guilty he would of been charged that way, the Army did not have any evidence on him I guess.

  • loggie520
    1:29 pm on May 13th, 2009 76

    The Soldiers that lied will have their judgement day is true. It is a shame to see someone and their family done like that. I was in the company during and after this took place as well as at the trial. I knew him and worked with him. I know he is not guilty, we should know the history of these girls (tramps) One married an NCO and CPT Callwood punished both for illegal relationships. The other slept around the company and BN, accused an NCO of the same thing and cost him him marriage, he asked to be moved to another unit. These soldiers in Korea are crazy and will destroy you fast. Did you know he was accused of 10+ counts and charged with 1? Did you know that the soldiers walked away not charge for lying. Did you know he was charge for “Trying to touch” and not touching? The story line at that trial changed so much and other soldiers that came in and told stories just did not make sense, to include CPT Hamilton-Humphreys. We (soldiers in the company) were told to stay away from the CM. On 2 had the gutts to go and tell the truth (they where treated differently after that) I know this soldier and knows she is not truthful when it comes to anything. I also know CPT Callwood and how he respects others and cares. He is smart and the best at what he does, I do know we had the best company in the BN and the other cdrs and 1SG envy him. I wish him the best.

  • loggie520
    1:42 pm on May 13th, 2009 77

    I think Shattered got her heart broken by him at some point.

    I know this guy was not a “ladies man” I never saw him with a lot of women if any. I know he was a guy rat and ran a lot. I would not say he is a sexual predator and hope that someone looks into this in the future. The EO complain came from CPT Hamilton-Humphreys, they could not stand each other. I worked with both of them. She was told to provide a sworn statement and proof and refused to write one. He took her husband’s job when he got fired for being stupid. He also took her job too. Major Gilson made it clear that she was not being honest and was trying to hurt him according to his testimony. The EO NCO was not called to the trial, go figure. These reports are kept on file for years, none was provided. There is a lot to this trial and a lot of anger toward CPT Callwood for slamming shady NCO’s and officers. He fired his LT,supply NCO, platoon sergeants, and was about to do the same with the 1SG, that should tell you that he was no non-sense. I wish all of the people on this blog were at the trial. I was at both and heard the story line changed several times, he did not stand a chance when he walked into the room. The ones that wanted to tell it was not able too. BLUF I would like to see the Army charge soldiers that lie instead of letting them walk away the way Innis did and Jenkins did for all or the lies she told.

  • Junior
    6:56 pm on May 13th, 2009 78

    What a zoo! Does that outfit do anything other than play hide the salami?

    Some units actually train for – and become good practitioners- war.

    Cue the circus music….

  • Loggie520
    1:24 pm on May 18th, 2009 79

    Can someone in confinement send emails? You are very silly also. You seems like someone that had a beef with him too. The unit Soldiers really knows what took place. You should you of been at the trial

  • Rahbugirl/Jackie or as you say Shattered
    3:30 pm on May 18th, 2009 80

    Trust and believe my heart is whole and well. My spirit is so in tack that I have no reason to return to this site. Why? Because I have found what I was looking for and it is well. That I have gotten all that I came here looking for and all is well. If this leads to a broken heart maybe I will return and let you all know. As for right now the Cpt and I will continue to pray for you and you all pray for us.

    See Ya!!!

 

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