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		<title>By: Gusts Of Popular Feeling: Feeding U to the dogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gusts Of Popular Feeling: Feeding U to the dogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] anti-American feeling, perhaps caused by some of the incidents and political currents described here.Eller certainly thinks so, saying that "the most shocking thing about the video is that it is mild [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: sesame seed</title>
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		<dc:creator>sesame seed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realistically, I agree that the troop pullout or even a reduction will not happen.  Sadly our people will continue to pay taxes to an immobile and lost bureaucracy.

I will however, continue to speak out against the un-Consitutionality of our presence here, and hope that the changes necessary to get our country back on course will come about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realistically, I agree that the troop pullout or even a reduction will not happen.  Sadly our people will continue to pay taxes to an immobile and lost bureaucracy.</p>
<p>I will however, continue to speak out against the un-Consitutionality of our presence here, and hope that the changes necessary to get our country back on course will come about.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug Bandow is among my favorite Cato scholars.  He has often argued in support of withdrawing US troops. One of the points Bandow makes is that the difference between the population and GDP of Mexico and the United States is roughly equivalent to the differences in the population and GDP of North and South Korea. He asks, "would anyone seriously suggest that the United States, with its larger population and GDP, could not defend itself from Mexico?"  Indeed South Korea could certainly defend itself from North Korea if it chose to commit the Won and industrial and personnel effort to do so.  In order to buy the deterrence that US troops provide, it would certainly be expensive and may even require a larger military draft which would leave less young people available to do the really mportant things like protest American beef.  I can see why that would be a bad thing. 

I recall around the time of the Seoul Olympics, one Korean national assemblyman who was Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee in a moment of rare candor said on the floor of the Assembly  that "we shouldn't think in terms of anti-Americanism or pro-Americanism, but rather we should think of Americans as mercenaries, someone we pay to protect us."  

In response, I sent that particular Assemblyman a tersely worded letter in Korean informing him that Americans were not mercenaries and asking him how he would like being referred to as a "prostitute National Assmemblyman."  He apparently didn't appreciate my letter as I soon learned from sources in the headquarters that he had complained directly to the USFK Commander's office about having received such an inflammatory letter from a US Army officer who, in sending such a letter,  was interfering in internal politics of Korea.  Fortunately for me, either the general or someone else in his ofice was amused by the whole affair and nothing came of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Bandow is among my favorite Cato scholars.  He has often argued in support of withdrawing US troops. One of the points Bandow makes is that the difference between the population and GDP of Mexico and the United States is roughly equivalent to the differences in the population and GDP of North and South Korea. He asks, &#8220;would anyone seriously suggest that the United States, with its larger population and GDP, could not defend itself from Mexico?&#8221;  Indeed South Korea could certainly defend itself from North Korea if it chose to commit the Won and industrial and personnel effort to do so.  In order to buy the deterrence that US troops provide, it would certainly be expensive and may even require a larger military draft which would leave less young people available to do the really mportant things like protest American beef.  I can see why that would be a bad thing. </p>
<p>I recall around the time of the Seoul Olympics, one Korean national assemblyman who was Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee in a moment of rare candor said on the floor of the Assembly  that &#8220;we shouldn&#8217;t think in terms of anti-Americanism or pro-Americanism, but rather we should think of Americans as mercenaries, someone we pay to protect us.&#8221;  </p>
<p>In response, I sent that particular Assemblyman a tersely worded letter in Korean informing him that Americans were not mercenaries and asking him how he would like being referred to as a &#8220;prostitute National Assmemblyman.&#8221;  He apparently didn&#8217;t appreciate my letter as I soon learned from sources in the headquarters that he had complained directly to the USFK Commander&#8217;s office about having received such an inflammatory letter from a US Army officer who, in sending such a letter,  was interfering in internal politics of Korea.  Fortunately for me, either the general or someone else in his ofice was amused by the whole affair and nothing came of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonagi,

Are the Korean people ungrateful or simply ungreat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonagi,</p>
<p>Are the Korean people ungrateful or simply ungreat?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Studies in &lt;b&gt;ungreatfulness&lt;/b&gt;?  You are an ESLer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Studies in <b>ungreatfulness</b>?  You are an ESLer.</p>
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		<title>By: shattered</title>
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		<dc:creator>shattered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL thanks Mark. 

By the way, I guess its clear I am an ESLer I wrote

"all thinks Korean"

Its pretty clear that at least two of those words should never go together  :razz: 

what about:

7)  Studies in ungreatfulness: Koreas unpaid debt to China, Japan and the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL thanks Mark. </p>
<p>By the way, I guess its clear I am an ESLer I wrote</p>
<p>&#8220;all thinks Korean&#8221;</p>
<p>Its pretty clear that at least two of those words should never go together  <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>what about:</p>
<p>7)  Studies in ungreatfulness: Koreas unpaid debt to China, Japan and the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shattered,

6) Korean global domination of the oldest profession.

 :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shattered,</p>
<p>6) Korean global domination of the oldest profession.</p>
<p> <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: shattered</title>
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		<dc:creator>shattered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the invite GI Korea. I look forward to helping educate people on Korea. What do you think about a series called:

1) Paper Citizens: Korean-UN-Americans and their UN-assimilation.

2) Korean Biographies: Cho Seoun Hui, Robert Kim and others 

3) Korean food Series: Dog Meat

4) The real Korean wave: How Asian communities who have a large influx of Koreans feel about them. 

5) Why you should boycott all thinks Korean. 


Those are just some ideas GI, of course I will support anything I say with research. What do you think? Any additions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the invite GI Korea. I look forward to helping educate people on Korea. What do you think about a series called:</p>
<p>1) Paper Citizens: Korean-UN-Americans and their UN-assimilation.</p>
<p>2) Korean Biographies: Cho Seoun Hui, Robert Kim and others </p>
<p>3) Korean food Series: Dog Meat</p>
<p>4) The real Korean wave: How Asian communities who have a large influx of Koreans feel about them. </p>
<p>5) Why you should boycott all thinks Korean. </p>
<p>Those are just some ideas GI, of course I will support anything I say with research. What do you think? Any additions?</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Luke's question and on the discussion of the potential of USFK leaving:

I see no chance of it happening.  And I base my opinion mostly on the pure power of the status quo:  changing something as massive as USFK and the US-SK military alliance is a mammoth undertaking with all kinds of hurdles.  We're talking billions to trillions of dollars, and it is so much easier to continue paying the billions we already do under the current situation than spent just as much and more money in the short term to change things.  Bureaucracies tend to have a life of their own and are hard to kill.

On the strategic arguments against pulling out -- I won't offer links, but I'd say go look at some of the stuff on Korea done at the CATO Institute --- they have a couple of guys who have been laying out the argument for pulling out of Korea for several years.  By reading them, you will find out what others are saying in favor of keeping troops in Korea by how the CATO people argue against their specific ideas.

I don't remember hearing this idea for a couple of years - but one of the common arguments against pulling out of Korea used to be that such a move would naturally lead to us having to pull out of Japan as well.

....I never bought into that at all.

One idea you do hear regularly repeated today in favor of staying is that --- if the US pulls out, South Korea will automatically swing into China's sphere of influence, and China will use that to attempt to push the US out of East Asia altogether or at least hamper US Asia policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Luke&#8217;s question and on the discussion of the potential of USFK leaving:</p>
<p>I see no chance of it happening.  And I base my opinion mostly on the pure power of the status quo:  changing something as massive as USFK and the US-SK military alliance is a mammoth undertaking with all kinds of hurdles.  We&#8217;re talking billions to trillions of dollars, and it is so much easier to continue paying the billions we already do under the current situation than spent just as much and more money in the short term to change things.  Bureaucracies tend to have a life of their own and are hard to kill.</p>
<p>On the strategic arguments against pulling out &#8212; I won&#8217;t offer links, but I&#8217;d say go look at some of the stuff on Korea done at the CATO Institute &#8212; they have a couple of guys who have been laying out the argument for pulling out of Korea for several years.  By reading them, you will find out what others are saying in favor of keeping troops in Korea by how the CATO people argue against their specific ideas.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember hearing this idea for a couple of years - but one of the common arguments against pulling out of Korea used to be that such a move would naturally lead to us having to pull out of Japan as well.</p>
<p>&#8230;.I never bought into that at all.</p>
<p>One idea you do hear regularly repeated today in favor of staying is that &#8212; if the US pulls out, South Korea will automatically swing into China&#8217;s sphere of influence, and China will use that to attempt to push the US out of East Asia altogether or at least hamper US Asia policy.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke I will put together an indepth posting next week on it that will lay out why a withdrawal of USFK isn't going to happen anytime soon and why the focus needs to remain on making the Camp Humphreys relocation a reality. 

By the way Shattered, I have long read USinKorea and respect his work so that is why I asked him to post here in order to diversify the site a bit and relieve some blogging pressure on me as my own work commitments increase.

However, I will probably make a posting about this later on announcing this but I am willing to except contributions from others if they have well formed and backed up opinions that they want to put into a posting.  If you have something you want to contribute you can always email it to me and I will check out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke I will put together an indepth posting next week on it that will lay out why a withdrawal of USFK isn&#8217;t going to happen anytime soon and why the focus needs to remain on making the Camp Humphreys relocation a reality. </p>
<p>By the way Shattered, I have long read USinKorea and respect his work so that is why I asked him to post here in order to diversify the site a bit and relieve some blogging pressure on me as my own work commitments increase.</p>
<p>However, I will probably make a posting about this later on announcing this but I am willing to except contributions from others if they have well formed and backed up opinions that they want to put into a posting.  If you have something you want to contribute you can always email it to me and I will check out.</p>
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