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	<title>Comments on: Violent Anti-US Beef Protests Continue In Seoul</title>
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		<title>By: Canada &#38; South Korea Begin Beef Import Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canada &#38; South Korea Begin Beef Import Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] does anyone think we will see violent anti-Canadian protests that will swamp the streets of Seoul for months because of a possible beef agreement between the two [...]</description>
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		<title>By: South Korea &#38; the Third US Presidential Debate</title>
		<link>http://rokdrop.com/2008/06/28/violent-anti-us-beef-protests-continue-in-seoul/#comment-237238</link>
		<dc:creator>South Korea &#38; the Third US Presidential Debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Korean President Lee Myung-bak must be kicking himself because all the crap he took over the mad cow nonsense in South Korea in order to get an FTA with the US advanced.  Everything Lee went through is probably going to all [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Korean President Lee Myung-bak must be kicking himself because all the crap he took over the mad cow nonsense in South Korea in order to get an FTA with the US advanced.  Everything Lee went through is probably going to all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seoul Prepares for Liberation Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seoul Prepares for Liberation Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and some tents so it appears that quite a show will be put on tomorrow.  Hopefully some of the usual suspects don&#8217;t show up to ruin [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and some tents so it appears that quite a show will be put on tomorrow.  Hopefully some of the usual suspects don&#8217;t show up to ruin [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KCTU violent protest - Dogpile Web Search</title>
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		<dc:creator>KCTU violent protest - Dogpile Web Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] the LMB ...       groups.yahoo.com/group/GreenLeft_discussion/messag...   &#38;#149 Found on Google     Violent Anti-US Beef Protests Continue In Seoul    ... Lee Myung-bak has announced he is going to arrest the protest ... it will fire water cannons [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Amnesty International Criticizes South Korean Government for &#8220;Excessive Force&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amnesty International Criticizes South Korean Government for &#8220;Excessive Force&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and vandalized police vehicles. No where does she mention the unprovoked assaults on policemen, throwing objects at the police to include bottles of urine, shooting acid at them with water guns, the destruction of property, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Korean Auto Workers Strike Due to Mad Cow Disease</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korean Auto Workers Strike Due to Mad Cow Disease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thugs say they &#8220;want to live long and healthy&#8221; but they will violently assault a column of riot police and set fire to buses which is more hazardous to their health then US beef.  Don&#8217;t be fooled [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thugs say they &#8220;want to live long and healthy&#8221; but they will violently assault a column of riot police and set fire to buses which is more hazardous to their health then US beef.  Don&#8217;t be fooled [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The beef and the damage done</title>
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		<dc:creator>The beef and the damage done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They live in an impersonal, crowded, competitive world, (Seoul), where the individual matters little, and the beef is simply a catalyst for venting the general rage,
"I,m mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore."

Credible surveys show 60 % are dissatisfied with their lives, that they work basically as a means to get money, which I believe is reflected in this sense of the little guy against the imposimg giant.

Many of them are University age people, who for the first time in their lives, are allowed to expess this frustration with the society that has controlled almost every aspect of their lives, and now it's time to let all hell break loose.

If it wasn't beef or the FTA, them some other excuse would serve as a flash point.

This won't be the end of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They live in an impersonal, crowded, competitive world, (Seoul), where the individual matters little, and the beef is simply a catalyst for venting the general rage,<br />
&#8220;I,m mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Credible surveys show 60 % are dissatisfied with their lives, that they work basically as a means to get money, which I believe is reflected in this sense of the little guy against the imposimg giant.</p>
<p>Many of them are University age people, who for the first time in their lives, are allowed to expess this frustration with the society that has controlled almost every aspect of their lives, and now it&#8217;s time to let all hell break loose.</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t beef or the FTA, them some other excuse would serve as a flash point.</p>
<p>This won&#8217;t be the end of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;one unarmed protester I saw had climbed up on a police bus in front of the Seoul Finance Center last night. Why? Because the the police were firing at the crowd with super high-pressure water cannons and he was trying to stop it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And why were the police firing at the crowd with water cannons?  Were they in the middle of a street?  Were they trying to attack a bus? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;So he was surrounded by 6 or 7 riot police and as they were holding him, another policeman came up from the side and took a giant swing at the protesters with his long club. The protester was some skinny college kid and I don’t understand why half a dozen policemen were unable to subdue him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think most long-term residents of Korea would agree that there is inappropriate violence on both sides and that Korean military conscripts are a poor choice for crowd control.  On an episode of &lt;i&gt;Cops&lt;/i&gt; I watched last night, I saw a short, chubby Fort Worth policewoman take down a taller, leaner young man who tried to run away and resisted arrest.  It's all in the techniques.  She knew exactly how to subdue him quickly and get him cuffed.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;You can argue that pulling away police buses is “violent,” but the protesters’ would counter that the police are blocking the roadway and they merely want to protest in front of Chongwadae to make their point to Lee. If the police had allowed them to do this two months ago, the protests would never have escalated the way they have. I mean, aren’t there protests in front of the White House all the time?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There isn't much space immediately in front of the White House, but there is a lawn across the street.  I've seen small pickets, but I've never seen or heard of tens of thousands of people protesting on that sidewalk or opposite lawn.  Given the emotions and the strong possibility of violence, the police are correct to keep a large group of protesters away from the Blue House.  Even if the protesters feel they have the right to march to the Blue House, that does not justify destroying public property.  The very fact that they did so demonstrates that the police are exercising good judgment in confining their demonstrations.  

Back here in the States, it is interesting to see how these protests are being covered by the Big Three networks.  The images I am seeing are of violent clashes as protesters charge a police line and protesters standing on and rummaging around inside police buses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>one unarmed protester I saw had climbed up on a police bus in front of the Seoul Finance Center last night. Why? Because the the police were firing at the crowd with super high-pressure water cannons and he was trying to stop it. </p></blockquote>
<p>And why were the police firing at the crowd with water cannons?  Were they in the middle of a street?  Were they trying to attack a bus? </p>
<blockquote><p>So he was surrounded by 6 or 7 riot police and as they were holding him, another policeman came up from the side and took a giant swing at the protesters with his long club. The protester was some skinny college kid and I don’t understand why half a dozen policemen were unable to subdue him.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think most long-term residents of Korea would agree that there is inappropriate violence on both sides and that Korean military conscripts are a poor choice for crowd control.  On an episode of <i>Cops</i> I watched last night, I saw a short, chubby Fort Worth policewoman take down a taller, leaner young man who tried to run away and resisted arrest.  It&#8217;s all in the techniques.  She knew exactly how to subdue him quickly and get him cuffed.  </p>
<blockquote><p>You can argue that pulling away police buses is “violent,” but the protesters’ would counter that the police are blocking the roadway and they merely want to protest in front of Chongwadae to make their point to Lee. If the police had allowed them to do this two months ago, the protests would never have escalated the way they have. I mean, aren’t there protests in front of the White House all the time?</p></blockquote>
<p>There isn&#8217;t much space immediately in front of the White House, but there is a lawn across the street.  I&#8217;ve seen small pickets, but I&#8217;ve never seen or heard of tens of thousands of people protesting on that sidewalk or opposite lawn.  Given the emotions and the strong possibility of violence, the police are correct to keep a large group of protesters away from the Blue House.  Even if the protesters feel they have the right to march to the Blue House, that does not justify destroying public property.  The very fact that they did so demonstrates that the police are exercising good judgment in confining their demonstrations.  </p>
<p>Back here in the States, it is interesting to see how these protests are being covered by the Big Three networks.  The images I am seeing are of violent clashes as protesters charge a police line and protesters standing on and rummaging around inside police buses.</p>
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		<title>By: Offbeat News Roundup From Around Asia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Offbeat News Roundup From Around Asia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Cuteness!Thousands riot in China after death of teenage girl :: China, GuardianPictures of Violent Anti-US Beef Protests In Korea :: S.Korea, RokdropSushi - Britain's new national dish :: Japan, Independent Ao Dai is one of [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: King Baeksu</title>
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		<dc:creator>King Baeksu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, about a minute into this YTN video, you can see the protester on the bus I mentioned above getting clobbered twice on the head by the police:

http://tvnews.media.daum.net/list/view.html?cateid=100000&#38;newsid=20080629133905234&#38;cp=ytni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, about a minute into this YTN video, you can see the protester on the bus I mentioned above getting clobbered twice on the head by the police:</p>
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