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Avatar of GI KoreaBy on June 29th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

Exposing the Anti-US Activists as Violence Continues In Seoul

The protests against the importation of US beef into Korea (that really has nothing to do with US beef) broke out once again in downtown Seoul. The conflict began yesterday when the Korean police gave a deadline to the protests groups to remove their tents that were illegally occupying the front lawn of City Hall. The protesters refused and the police moved in an forcibly removed the tents:

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In an attempt to end the protests, the Seoul Metropolitan Government removed 27 tents that were built illegally by rally organizers from Seoul City Hall Plaza. About 50 workers and 2,000 riot police removed the tents, which had been used as the headquarters of the civic groups’ alliance, the People’s Conference Against Mad Cow Disease.

About 400 protesters tried to physically block the removal, but failed. About 10 people who violently resisted were taken to a police station for questioning.

The city said it gave the organizer yesterday a noon deadline to leave City Hall Plaza, but the protesters did not cooperate, causing the police to forcibly evict them. [Joong Ang Ilbo]

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While removing the tents the police also kept the road leading up to the Presidential Blue House blocked with their police buses in anticipation of the protest that was to begin that night:

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After the police tore down the tent city the protesters then brought out a banner depicting Korean President Lee Myung-bak:

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They then proceeded to walk all over it and eventually tore it up:

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The protesters as usual brought out their young kids to inflate their numbers:

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You are never to young to be brainwashed by these leftist goons:

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Politicians from the United Democratic Party came out and protested as well:

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UDP lawmaker Ahn Min-seok told the media he was assaulted by Korean riot police the night before that ended up being a total fabrication:

Representative Ahn Min-seok said he was assaulted by the police, although he had identified himself as a lawmaker.

Police disagreed. It was Ahn, they said, that actually assaulted three officers.

“We began collecting evidence to investigate this case,” Seoul police said yesterday.

Ahn’s punching a police corporal was captured by the video record of Joins TV, an Internet broadcaster affiliated with the JoongAng Ilbo. The footage was posted on the JoongAng Ilbo’s Internet site. [Joong Ang Ilbo]

The leftist propaganda sites though have been working overtime to spread the disinformation that Ahn was attacked despite the video evidence to the contrary. Below is a picture being spread on the Anti2mb website condemning the supposed attack on Ahn:

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I’m sure you will never see on the Anti2mb website:

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Here is an example of more violence against police officers from last night:

Around 1:20 a.m., Oh Myeong-hwan, a detective from the Namdaemun police precinct, attempted to arrest several protesters who vandalized the Koreana Hotel in central Seoul. He was soon surrounded by about 30 demonstrators. Lee Deok-wu, an attorney from the Lawyers for a Democratic Society, which represents the rally organizer, appeared 20 minutes later. Kim Won-jung, chief of the Namdaemun police, also arrived.

“The people nabbed Oh because they thought he was a kidnapper,” Lee said. At the time, Oh was not wearing his uniform. [Joong Ang Ilbo]

These people claim to be peaceful protesters yet they are vandalizing one of the better hotels in Seoul and beating policeman and then claim he is a kidnapper. How would a kidnapper kidnap “several” men at one time? These people will lie about anything.

These so called peaceful protesters have also ransacked offices of newspapers that have spoken out against the violence as part of the protesters campaign of intimidation to silence their critics:

Demonstrators have attacked journalists from conservative-leaning newspapers, which they claim carry unfair reports about the protests. They also broke windows to storm into the head offices of the Chosun Ilbo and Donga Ilbo dailies. [Korea Times]

Choe Sang-hun of the New York Times reported last night’s protests as having 15,000 people. Looking at the below pictures I would say that estimate is about right and would make this the largest of the violent protests so far:

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As night fell the violence began:

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Of course once again they were using ropes to pull on the buses with to try and move them:

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I may have even been able to locate King Baeksu’s fire extinguisher from last night’s protest:

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The Anti2mb site is claiming the policemen were beating down foreigners for no reason as well, just like Ahn Min-seok I’m sure:

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To be fair some of the policemen were hitting some of the protesters pretty hard as this YouTube video shows but it tough to make out the context of what happened before the woman got hit with the batons. Did she she throw something that hit somebody in the head to provoke the attack? As we see with the Ahn Min-seok story, these groups will lie and lie regularly no matter how absurd the claims may be.

I actually thought this was kind of funny that some of the protesters brought their own water hoses to fight back with:

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I was wondering what protesters were doing with these water guns in the previous night’s protest:

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Well now we know:

“In the latest rallies, demonstrators shot acid at the police using water pistols and threw bricks at them,” said Han Jin-hee, chief of the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency. “The use of violence has crossed the line. It doesn’t feel like a democratic country anymore.” [Joong Ang Ilbo]

The leftist politician were also out getting their faces in the news again as well and fortunately there are no reports yet of them claiming they were beaten by police like the false claim from Representative Ahn Min-seok discussed earlier:

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The guy dressed in the hanbok if anyone wondering is Kang Gi-gap is a member of the Democratic Labor Party (DLP) that two years ago was linked to a North Korean spy ring.

With that an excellent report was published today that shows the background of two of the main organizers of these protests that clearly shows their anti-American backgrounds:

He said the Korea Alliance for Progressive Movement, established last September, is the architect of the protests.
Oh Chong-ryol and Han Sang-ryeol, the co-chairmen of the civic group, as well as Park Seok-un, another senior leader, were singled out by Hong as ringleaders.

Oh, 70, who used to teach at Jeonnam Girls’ High School, is a well-known anti-U.S. activist. He is also a leader of the alliance of civic groups that oppose the U.S.-Korea free trade agreement as well as other anti-American measures.

Han, 58, whose career as an activist began as the student association president of Chonbuk National University, is famous for leading protests to demand the withdrawal of the U.S. forces from Korea. [Joong Ang Ilbo]

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Han Sang-ryeol

Make sure to read the rest of the report but Han Sang-ryeol has a vast history of violence to include participating in the attempt to tear down the MacArthur Statue in Incheon and fighting with Korean police against the Camp Humphreys expansion. He is also a pro-North Korean stooge.

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Oh Jong-ryeol

Oh Chong-ryol is the chairman of the Korea Progressive Coalition that is an umbrella group that includes mostly anti-US and pro-North Korean groups like Hanchongryun. Oh has been behind anti-US-ROK FTA protests as well as anti-US protests in 2002 in regards to the USFK armored vehicle accident. He was also involved in protests to shut down the USFK bombing range at Maehyang-ri in 2001.

It is pretty clear that these guys and others are hard core anti-US activists that have been helping to spearhead these violent protests. In response to the violent protests the police have finally issued arrest warrants for organizers of the protests:

Police also said yesterday that they sought warrants to further detain two key members of the rally organizer on charges of violating laws governing assembly and demonstration. According to police, Ahn Jin-geol, 35, was suspected of inciting protesters to march toward the Blue House from May 13 to 25. Yun Hee-suk, 32, was accused of instigating a movement to oust President Lee Myung-bak by acting as a host for the candlelight vigils.

The police also applied for warrants to arrest eight others who are known as leaders of the anti-U.S. beef import rallies. Subpoenas were sent to two more activists. [Joong Ang Ilbo]

Ahn Jin-geol was one of the organizers of the violent protests and is a member of the Peace Network. The Peace Network is a anti-US (some Japan bashing too) and North Korean apologist group that has held seminars criticizing actions against North Korea such as UN resolutions condemning North Korea’s human rights abuses. Yun Hee-suk on the other hand I couldn’t find out much about his background but considering the company he keeps we can assume where he comes from.

Also I recommend everyone go and read this posting from Gusts of Popular Feeling that lays out in great detail on how the online scaremongering scheme by some shady leftist groups coincided with the now proven to be fraudulent PD Diary report that greatly fanned the anti-US beef fears across the Korean public. It is coming quite clear how organized these protests were and all the players behind them.

This is all quite clearly an attempt by the anti-US leftist groups to politically neuter Korean President Lee Myung-bak because he put a stop to their leftist agendas by winning the election. They are now trying to do through misinformation, smears, violence, and intimidation what they couldn’t do in the ballot box.

As things stand now they have been extremely effective.

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  • Rob
    5:02 pm on June 29th, 2008 1

    I think King Baeksu is the grand puppet master. :wink:

  • King Baeksu
    8:55 am on June 29th, 2008 2

    "These people claim to be peaceful protesters."

    Most do, not all. Nuance is clearly not your strong suit.

    "anti-US leftist groups"

    You are so funny, does your computer have a function that allows you to insert "anti-US" in front of every usage of the word "leftist"?

    It's funny that I think I've seen Han Sang-ryeol and

    Oh Jong-ryeol maybe once or twice at the rallies, and never after dark. Yet according to you they are the grand puppet-masters, aren't they?

    "The guy dressed in the hanbok if anyone wondering is Hong Hui-deok is a member of the Democratic Labor Party (DLP) that two years ago was linked to a North Korean spy ring."

    Wrong. That's Kang Ki-gap:

    http://gopkorea.blogs.com/flyingyangban/2004/06/k

    Is he a North Korea spy, too, according to your excellent reporting?

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    10:24 am on June 29th, 2008 3

    Thanks for the correction on Kang. Correction made. I misread the ordering of the names on the caption of the VOP report. Kang is still another DLP member that as I mentioned is a political party linked to a North Korean spy ring.

    As far as anti-US leftists in Korea, what leftist group in Korea isn't anti-US or doesn't fall under a larger anti-US umbrella group?

    Oh and Han are clearly anti-US activists with strong seniority in the anti-US leftist movement in Korea that have advocated violence before and they sure are not doing anything to keep these protests peaceful now.

    The guys with the arrest warrants issued against them appear to be the guys on the ground orchestrating what is going on who once again has links to anti-US and pro-North Korean sympathies.

    You are not going to convince me these protests as some "class warfare" movement with the involvement of so many anti-US pro-North Korean leftist leaders, politicians, and groups surrounding them. It is also no coincidence that these protests largely turned violent when these groups were left to protest on their own when the majority of the Korean public abandoned them when their true agendas were revealed.

    I will say it again here, this is not a class warfare movement. This is an attempt by the anti-US leftist groups to politically neuter 2MB because he put a stop to their leftist agenda by winning the election. They are trying to do through misinformation, smears, violence, and intimidation what they couldn’t do in the ballot box. Pretty plain and simple.

  • King Baeksu
    10:37 am on June 29th, 2008 4

    GI, good to see that your "anti-US" edit function is still working well.

    Actually, one of the main points I have been making in talking with the protesters is that there is hardly any consciousness of North Korea in this movement, and that most people seem indifferent to what is happening North of the DMZ. But a lot of the protesters are not interested in talking about that aspect, since they are mainly focused on other things which are, in order of importance (currently): 1. Anti-2MB; 2. Anti-police; 3. Anti-mad cow.

    But keep on playing the pro-North theme if it makes you feel better!

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    10:44 am on June 29th, 2008 5

    I like how you keep ignoring this statement:

    I will say it again here, this is not a class warfare movement. This is an attempt by the anti-US leftist groups to politically neuter 2MB because he put a stop to their leftist agenda by winning the election. They are trying to do through misinformation, smears, violence, and intimidation what they couldn’t do in the ballot box. Pretty plain and simple.

  • King Baeksu
    10:51 am on June 29th, 2008 6

    "They are trying to do through misinformation, smears, violence, and intimidation what they couldn’t do in the ballot box."

    Well, then you should live up to your own high standards.

    I answered the class warfare issue in the other post and am waiting for your answer.

  • Pops
    11:08 am on June 29th, 2008 7

    GI,

    Don't waste any more keystrokes on this Baeksu dude. Keep shining the light on all this malarkey and disregard the inane comments of such posers. Cheers,

  • King Baeksu
    11:17 am on June 29th, 2008 8

    Yeah, GI, ignore the guy who's an expert on these protests, because uninformed opinion is so much more fun!

  • Surabol
    12:03 pm on June 29th, 2008 9

    There's no reason for any of these protesters to be anti 2MB or anti mad cow (assuming that there's not a trace of anti American sentiments that influence these protests, which I find highly unlikely). They can scream and holler until their face is blue, but the science on MDC largely laughs at their overblown concerns.

    Why are Koreans against 2MB? The guy was elected only about a few months ago. Not to mention that he has committed ZERO impeachable offense.

    This MDC movement is approaching the HEIGHT of foolishness not seen even in America. I live in LA, where emotionally charged protests and clash against the police are an occasional reality. But they END eventually. The organizers (who work / comply with officials on how to conduct these protests) won't call for protests that clog streets and paralyze the economy for 2,3 months. And If they did, not many will show up.

  • Kalani
    12:06 pm on June 29th, 2008 10

    GI Korea,

    I tried to make this comment twice before but it has not taken. Though I may not agree with King Baeksu on a lot of points, I do agree that this protest has NOTHING to do with anti-Americanism.

    Yes, Rev. Han and Mr. Oh did try to stir up the pot on 10 Jun by holding that sunrise (6am) ceremony up near Paju, but it was a flop. No one is buying the anti-American slant. However, it does not mean that these guys are not interested in destabilizing the government though. However, the anti-Americanism angle just does not exist in this protest.

    On the other point, I do concur with you that the entire progressive movement is out to neuteralize LMB and make him a lame duck so that he cannot disassemble the progressive "gains" made in the past ten years. However, this has nothing to do with anti-Americanism.

  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    12:24 pm on June 29th, 2008 11

    Kalani I checked the spam filter and the comment wasn't there so I don't know what happened to it.

    Also, I'm not saying these protests right now are anti-American, I'm saying the groups behind them are anti-US. Like I told King Baeksu they are using the beef issue to politically neuter 2MB. Once 2MB is neutered they will continue to advance their leftist agenda which a large part of it is anti-US.

    That is why I have been saying that if 2MB is neutered then I fully expect them to go after USFK on cost sharing and the Camp Humphreys relocation when those issue come to a head.

    King Baeksu if this is a class warfare struggle then how do you explain that your supposed champions of the people are ensuring that everyone in Korea pays higher food prices especially on beef. The rich chaebol types could care less what the average working person pays for food.

    Also your champions of the people are ensuring the Korean economy stays in the tank as reforms 2MB has been trying to push through along with the FTA are all in limbo and FDI continues to be drained from the country.

    I could go on and on about the absurdity of these protesters representing the working people. They are representing themselves and their own narrow leftist agendas which is obvious since the Korean public has largely abandoned them.

  • Cloying_odor
    12:24 pm on June 29th, 2008 12

    "However, the anti-Americanism angle just does not exist in this protest."

    So the signs reading "We don't want US troops, We dont want US mad cows!" are not an anti-american angle? I have been looking high and low in Korea for some really good drugs… please tell me where you get yours?

  • Cloying_odor
    12:31 pm on June 29th, 2008 13

    And since we are talking conspiracy theories… For example the theory that this is actually about public health… I suspect that the PRC has a significant black-ops level role in all of this. Remember when all those Chinese rampaged in Seoul and basically got off scott free? Things that make you go hmmmmmm……

    No one takes the Chinese threat seriously.. most of all the South Koreans.

  • RonElvis
    1:12 pm on June 29th, 2008 14

    "Actually, one of the main points I have been making in talking with the protesters is that there is hardly any consciousness of North Korea in this movement, and that most people seem indifferent to what is happening North of the DMZ"

    Exactly, that what makes them useful idiots of the Norks. These folks have had their heads filled with Nork propaganda from the time they attended elementary school. Why does North Korea need to attack Seoul when there pawns already in place will do it for them?

  • Kalani
    2:06 pm on June 29th, 2008 15

    Cloying Odor: "So the signs reading “We don’t want US troops, We dont want US mad cows!” are not an anti-american angle?"

    RAPPING ON DESK TO WAKE UP STUDENTS…

    Cloying Odor, keep up with the discussion. On 24 May the "adults" (the ones that GI Korea is haranguing about) took over under the oft-used technique of a "Pan-Korea umbrella group" with supposedly 1700 groups. Each of them had its own agenda.

    Awake yet? You can expect all kinds of signs from those 1700 groups — and don't pay attention to those written in English as they are only for US media. Each group has its own agenda and brings it to the demonstrations. I wouldn't panic if only one sign in the thousands has a anti-US message.

    However, when you see the sign "F_CKING USA" on a lot of signs, then you start to worry. When that happens then you have anti-Americanism flowing again. Then it gets very dangerous…

    NOW BACK TO SLEEP…ZZZZz

  • Cloying_odor
    2:47 pm on June 29th, 2008 16

    Yawn. :shock:

    OK, Can I go back to sleep now?

  • King Baeksu
    3:44 pm on June 29th, 2008 17

    GI, I think your fundamental error here is your perception that a few people are running things and leading everyone else in this movement. On the contrary, it is a movement without strong leadership, and is radically decentered save for the common goal of resisting 2MB. That is why even a few "radical anti-US types" will not get a majority of others to go along with them on other outside issues, be it ousting the US military or reunification, as Kalani has mentioned. Tonight I went out to the bakery and there were 5,000 demonstrators sitting down in front of Chonggak Station. I met a well-known actress, a film distribution company worker and an art student at a local university. They were all pissed at Lee and that's why they were there; I seriously doubt that if a few radicals started railing against the US military or whatever, they would be down with that program.

    In any case, it becomes clear what your real worry is here. You want to make sure the status quo here regarding the US military on the Peninsula is protected, and you do not care at all if Lee privatizes health care or builds an environmentally catastophic canal across the country.

    Good to see that you care about Korea and Koreans so much!

  • Mark
    4:49 pm on June 29th, 2008 18

    I think it's time for a Corean barbecue.

  • Ut videam
    4:56 pm on June 29th, 2008 19

    FFS, Baeksu, he dropped the canal plan.

    The continuation of these protests proves that this is not about LMB's policy proposals at all. It's about nullifying the will of the people—as expressed in TWO nationwide elections—by neutralizing the president. These protests are, at their core, ANTI-democratic.

  • Ut videam
    4:58 pm on June 29th, 2008 20

    Mark, good call! I was thinking of that myself. There was a great segment on Futureweapons about that bad boy a while back, IIRC.

  • King Baeksu
    5:21 pm on June 29th, 2008 21

    Ut videam, he dropped it with qualfications and kept the door open to do it in the future. No one really believes him is the main problem now.

  • Ut videam
    5:29 pm on June 29th, 2008 22

    I don't see how disbanding all the study groups in the ministries and leaving the construction companies high-and-dry constitutes "[keeping] the door open to do it in the future," but if you say so.

  • usinkorea
    5:55 pm on June 29th, 2008 23

    It makes no sense to say these protests aren't anti-US.

    This protests are not happening outside the traditional protest culture. They are not so unique that they should be placed separate from protests of previous years.

    You are giving way too much credit to how the protesters are using to justify their righteous rage.

    As #9 pointed out, Pres. Lee wasn't in office long enough to gain such anger. American beef was no where close to being as dangerous as stated to justify the rage…

    ….there is no viable reason to explain the protests that the protesters themselves have offered up.

    But if you understand the anti-US culture in Korea, you can understand how the protests have kept themselves going:

    As I noted near the start of this spike in activity: President Lee and the GNP victory, in Korean society's mind, has made anti-US activity safe again. They trust that he will do whatever it takes to keep the US-SK alliance strong – which is something they couldn't trust under Pres. Roh – and now that they feel secure, they can get back to protesting as usual.

    What we have seen with the mad cow stuff is not unique in Korea.

    The society picked something to go nuts over — a beef deal with the US. And when it became too obvious they were going to look like idiots in the world press because the science behind US beef didn't have a prayer of justifying their rage — they did as they usually do – shifted to a new "cause" — Pres. Lee's arrogance.

    To say that the protests today have nothing to do with anti-US culture —– is like saying the protests in 2000 were really about the danger posed by 20 gallons of embalming fluid — or that the current spike in activity was really about fright over getting mad cow disease.

    Or — maybe the misconception in this thread is that — to be anti-US in nature, they have to really want USFK out of Korea — they have to be directly calling for troop withdrawals and so on.

    If that is what it takes for a protest cycle to be anti-US, then those who say this isn't about anti-Americanism are correct.

    But that is a flawed view of Korean anti-US culture to begin with.

    The die-hard activist do want the US relationship to end.

    The society, however, simply wants to play up nationalism.

    Anti-US culture in Korea is for internal consumption. It is for Koreans alone. They don't want it to get out into the world media.

    They want to use it to feel strong and proud.

    It is a culture seeped deep to the bone during the long decades of opposing authoritarian rule when their own government wasn't democratic and would not listen to the will of the people.

    The anti-US culture in Korea is about Korean national pride — more specifically – exercising Korean national pride.

  • King Baeksu
    6:36 pm on June 29th, 2008 24

    Ut videam, I hope Lee is honest about ending the grand canal plan — we'll see. But the point is that rather than sitting around bitching on blogs, the protesters got out there and did something that has had tangible results: They made Lee back down on the canal and many other things. Let's just hope he means what he says.

    Usinkorea, I've spoken with several hundred protesters and think you're wrong, but if you think you know better than they do, then you must be one really smart dude.

  • The final cut
    12:42 pm on June 30th, 2008 25

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  • Avatar of GI KoreaGI Korea
    11:57 pm on June 29th, 2008 26

    King Baeksu you obviously haven't been reading this blog for too long which is to your extreme detriment.

    First of all I have been against building the canal because it is ridiculous to use it to ship goods to Pusan when the country is surrounded by water. The only reason I could see to support the canal was if it meant less free money going to Kim Jong-il.

    Secondly I am the biggest advocate on the internet against the USFK status quo. I have for years now advocated against the current USFK gravy train in Korea. I have long supported troop reductions, the hand over of operation control, Korea paying more for its defense, and the USFK transformation. Here is a few postings to get you started:

    http://rokdrop.com/2006/12/13/camp-humphreys-relo

    http://rokdrop.com/2006/12/06/us-rok-cost-sharing

    http://rokdrop.com/2007/02/24/wartime-control-del

    http://rokdrop.com/2008/02/06/troop-cuts-in-usfk-

    http://rokdrop.com/2008/02/24/2nd-infantry-divisi

    http://rokdrop.com/2008/01/10/its-official-seoul-

    http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/05/us-senators-critici

    http://rokdrop.com/2008/04/23/drawdown-of-us-troo

    http://rokdrop.com/2008/06/23/should-usfk-hold-an

    Also I know quite well there is not one person behind the protests. Hanchongnyun is not subordinate to KCTU or the teachers union, or PSPD, etc. They coordinate over the internet and these groups get their members to turn out and they protests in together but in their own groups. However certain leaders in the anti-US movement have more street cred then others and once they get involved they can get more of these groups to turn out.

    King Baeksu I do have to wonder where all these groups were when Roh did all the hard work on the FTA and left it to 2MB to implement. Could it be they didn't hold weeks long violent protests against Roh because he was their man in the Blue House who was anti-US and a North Korean stooge, while Lee is considered pro-US and not a North Korean stooge?

  • usinkorea
    1:59 am on June 30th, 2008 27

    I don't think the difference today is that the anti-US die-hard groups were holding back under Roh.

    I think the key is that the average Koreans were.

    The dedicated groups – the ones who really do want the US out of Korea – did stage protests during the Roh years. They did protest the FTA and at economic summits hosted in Korea. They did protest in Pyongtaek and at the MacArthur Statue.

    But they never enjoyed the kind of greater public support they have gotten with Cows Gone Wild!!

    And I think the reason is obvious – if you've (the generic you) watched how the anti-US process works in the society as a whole:

    Average Koreans have always buried anti-US activity when they became afraid it would either damage the US military committment to Korea or damage Korean trade with the US. At least that has been the habit since real democratic reform took place in the late-1980s to early 1990s.

    Under Roh, once average Koreans saw that he might actually officially weaken or destroy the US military alliance, they turned on him and the anti-US groups.

    They waited for the next presidential election to make things safe again.

    And I was predicting several years ago that we'd see a return to the common anti-US process once the GNP regained control of the government.

    The fact you could predict it — long before it was clear who would be the GNP leader/nominee —

    — demonstrates that the current activity has basically nothing to do with American beef or Lee's management style.

    Those are just the excuses used to justify righteous rage – a righteous rage that is all about stoking Korean nationalism.

  • Mark
    2:38 am on June 30th, 2008 28

    Also during Roh there were cute little counter-demonstrations. Where are they now? :?:

  • haksaeng
    3:23 am on June 30th, 2008 29

    Mark, the counter-demonstrations were present, only not covered by the South Korean press, at least, not extensively. Yonhap, at least, mentioned their existence.

  • Mark
    3:52 am on June 30th, 2008 30

    Haksaeng,

    Cool…I found a couple also. Thanks.

  • Kingkitty
    6:12 am on June 30th, 2008 31

    Hey I found the picture of the Fire Extinguisher the police hit King B with. I found it laying around the bus. They also has a waterboarding station set up for all foreigners not participating in the riot

  • shattered
    8:16 am on June 30th, 2008 32

    :razz: Good job KittyLitter. The great thing about people like you is that waterboarding is not necessary. I can just put a fan in a room with you and the thought of "fan death" will terrorize you.

    You are cheeky monkey KittyLitter.

  • Ut videam
    11:43 am on June 30th, 2008 33

    Not to toot my own horn, but…

    Okay, to toot my own horn (after all, if I don't toot it, who else is gonna?), I just posted a quick-and-dirty look at the possible effects of Cows Gone Wild! on the strength of the South Korean currency over at the Marmot's Hole. You can see it here:

    http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/28/open-thread-5

  • usinkorea
    1:55 pm on June 30th, 2008 34

    #27 That is an area I'm interested in watching the next couple of years.

    Will this pro-US or at least anti-anti-US trend continue?

    Will Hanchongryon's ranks continue to dwindle or will they grow?

    Will conservative student groups continue to grow on campus or peter out?

    The same with the civic groups that were popping up – besides the military veterans group – which has been around and active for a long time on the counter-anti-Americanism front.

    My guess is that – after a couple of years with Lee in the Blue House – and a couple more years of basic inactivity on the USFK reformation – Hanchongryon will become the hip thing to join again…

  • shattered
    5:13 pm on June 30th, 2008 35

    Anti Americanism will grow under LMB.

  • King Baeksu
    8:44 pm on June 30th, 2008 36

    And now for something completely different:

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    [...] Make sure to read the rest from Korea Beat, but I for one would love the hear how PD Diary came about their highly flawed mad cow story that set off the Cows Gone Wild craziness. [...]

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    [...] posted about the leftist anti-US groups links to the US beef protests that have continued to plague the country and now this report via One Free [...]

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    [...] of course been following the activities of the anti-government groups which you can read more about here and here as well as providing indepth recommendations on how to deal with them here and here as [...]

  • Choi Sung-yong Jailed for Defending North Korean Abductees
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    [...] protesting the importation of US beef are allowed to assault and beat Korean policemen without being sent to jail, while someone that is actually doing something noble for South Korean [...]

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    [...] melamine from tainted Chinese milk is turning up in Korean products.  Where are the candlelight girls when you need [...]

  • Giving the Consumer What She Wants? Korean Women’s Role in the Westernization of the Korean Media « The Grand Narrative
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    [...] sector was closed off to competition, and is thus stagnant and backward by comparison. Hence the strong protectionist element to the protests, and one reason why Korea’s manufacturing sector is disproportionately large and its service [...]

 

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