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		<title>By: korea soldier marijuana - Dogpile Web Search</title>
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		<dc:creator>korea soldier marijuana - Dogpile Web Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] the ...       rokdrop.com/2008/11/26/usfk-soldier-sentenced-for-...   &#149; Found on Google     Foreigners &amp; Ex-North Korean Soldiers to Protest Beef Protesters   Jul 3, 2008 ... GI Korea: That would be really messed up for... USFK Soldier Sentenced for [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Osan AB and the Songtan Area 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osan AB and the Songtan Area 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] democracy -- that I had witnessed being so brutally abused by the progressive elements. I wrote on GI ROK Drop blog: &quot;I don&#039;t like the idea of protestors protesting protests. It even sounds ridiculous. But on second [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] democracy &#8212; that I had witnessed being so brutally abused by the progressive elements. I wrote on GI ROK Drop blog: &#8220;I don&#8217;t like the idea of protestors protesting protests. It even sounds ridiculous. But on second [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: KK Kau Manua</title>
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		<dc:creator>KK Kau Manua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repost of what I posted on Marmot&#039;s Hole on 5 Jul: 
 
Was also there at the nonodemo and was very disappointed with the turnout &#8212; after it was announced with such fanfare. The media said there was going to be 30,000 and as you can attest it was about 500. But that is the media&#8217;s fault &#8212; and the guy giving overly optimistic press releases. The teachers that were supposed to show up??? Think I saw only about 5 &#8212; of the 100 that was supposed to show. 
 
But am I disappointed? No. I went for personal reasons as I support the idea of a counterpoint in a discussion. I support an exercise in democracy &#8212; not only the one-way version that has been going on on the other side. 
 
BTW those military clad folks are the Hanchongryeon &#8220;storm troopers/peace marshalls&#8221; that are there to coordinate the trouble. I arrived at 5:30 and they were hanging out as a group down near the 7-11 &#8212; I assume because they thought 30,000 were going to show up. When only 500 old folks &#8212; and I never saw the 300 &#8220;bodyguards&#8221; &#8212; appeared, it was apparent that their job was nill. To taunt the group, they formed up on the opposite street with signs that talked about a new beginning of non-violence. Nice touch. 
 
Only one incident when a rabble rouser in a pink raincoat (not a monk) was chased out of the group&#8217;s area &#8212; but then returned with his own group. The police put an end to any confrontation by simply blocking them off immediately before they could cross the road. The police finally boxed the whole area with buses at the front &#8212; and had police at the rear.  
 
Left at 7:30 because it appeared that they weren&#8217;t going to do much more.  
 
However, though I still don&#8217;t believe in protesting protests, I do believe in exercising their rights under the democracy that the other side so loudly professes&#8230;but is so ready to trample. 
 
If they do this again, I hope they choose another venue as this place was not a good choice. If they do, my presence will be there but as always I&#8217;ll be in the background&#8230; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repost of what I posted on Marmot&#039;s Hole on 5 Jul:</p>
<p>Was also there at the nonodemo and was very disappointed with the turnout &mdash; after it was announced with such fanfare. The media said there was going to be 30,000 and as you can attest it was about 500. But that is the media&rsquo;s fault &mdash; and the guy giving overly optimistic press releases. The teachers that were supposed to show up??? Think I saw only about 5 &mdash; of the 100 that was supposed to show.</p>
<p>But am I disappointed? No. I went for personal reasons as I support the idea of a counterpoint in a discussion. I support an exercise in democracy &mdash; not only the one-way version that has been going on on the other side.</p>
<p>BTW those military clad folks are the Hanchongryeon &ldquo;storm troopers/peace marshalls&rdquo; that are there to coordinate the trouble. I arrived at 5:30 and they were hanging out as a group down near the 7-11 &mdash; I assume because they thought 30,000 were going to show up. When only 500 old folks &mdash; and I never saw the 300 &ldquo;bodyguards&rdquo; &mdash; appeared, it was apparent that their job was nill. To taunt the group, they formed up on the opposite street with signs that talked about a new beginning of non-violence. Nice touch.</p>
<p>Only one incident when a rabble rouser in a pink raincoat (not a monk) was chased out of the group&rsquo;s area &mdash; but then returned with his own group. The police put an end to any confrontation by simply blocking them off immediately before they could cross the road. The police finally boxed the whole area with buses at the front &mdash; and had police at the rear. </p>
<p>Left at 7:30 because it appeared that they weren&rsquo;t going to do much more. </p>
<p>However, though I still don&rsquo;t believe in protesting protests, I do believe in exercising their rights under the democracy that the other side so loudly professes&hellip;but is so ready to trample.</p>
<p>If they do this again, I hope they choose another venue as this place was not a good choice. If they do, my presence will be there but as always I&rsquo;ll be in the background&hellip;</p>
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		<title>By: Kalani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disregard last my post.  Still going up but for a one-man, silent, in the corner, way in the back, unseen and hidden, personal protest.  Going there just for me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disregard last my post.  Still going up but for a one-man, silent, in the corner, way in the back, unseen and hidden, personal protest.  Going there just for me.</p>
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		<title>By: a listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>a listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe we have a Metropolictian imposter here. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe we have a Metropolictian imposter here.</p>
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		<title>By: Using Religious Groups for Moral Cover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Using Religious Groups for Moral Cover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] interesting to see what this investigator has to say if the KCTU tries to provoke violence with the counter-protesters coming out tonight against the US beef protesters.   Because of this I would be surprised if the leftist thugs try [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] interesting to see what this investigator has to say if the KCTU tries to provoke violence with the counter-protesters coming out tonight against the US beef protesters.   Because of this I would be surprised if the leftist thugs try [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Foreigners &#38; Ex-North Korean Soldiers to Protest Beef… - ROK Drop via MySpace News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foreigners &#38; Ex-North Korean Soldiers to Protest Beef… - ROK Drop via MySpace News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kalani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metropolitician... 
 
Don&#039;t believe in protesting the protest, but do think the idea of &quot;reciprocal democracy&quot; is a solid idea -- you have free speech in the US and I should have free speech in Korea as a democracy.  Spent my time protecting this Korean democracy from the old days (though the Koreans called it a dictatorship) -- pre-Team Spirit -- and finished my tour years sitting under an F-16 during the &#039;88 Olympics just in case things got strange but these latest protestors seemed to have forgotten what it&#039;s all about. 
 
I&#039;m off tomorrow.  Where will you folks be assembling along the stream? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metropolitician&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#039;t believe in protesting the protest, but do think the idea of &quot;reciprocal democracy&quot; is a solid idea &#8212; you have free speech in the US and I should have free speech in Korea as a democracy.  Spent my time protecting this Korean democracy from the old days (though the Koreans called it a dictatorship) &#8212; pre-Team Spirit &#8212; and finished my tour years sitting under an F-16 during the &#039;88 Olympics just in case things got strange but these latest protestors seemed to have forgotten what it&#039;s all about.</p>
<p>I&#039;m off tomorrow.  Where will you folks be assembling along the stream?</p>
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		<title>By: In Seoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Seoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swlee is showing the true colors of those freedom loving souls who want to overthrow a democratically elected president. Perhaps Webster&#8217;s dictionary should redefine the word democracy to fit Mr. Lee&#039;s idea of what he thinks it means: violence against anyone who does not share one&#039;s opinion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swlee is showing the true colors of those freedom loving souls who want to overthrow a democratically elected president. Perhaps Webster&rsquo;s dictionary should redefine the word democracy to fit Mr. Lee&#039;s idea of what he thinks it means: violence against anyone who does not share one&#039;s opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: The Metropolitician</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Metropolitician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope I see all you peeps there, its a good cause and there&#039;ll be free steak. 
Mmm, free steak! 
For those of you that haven&#039;t me me yet, come up and say hello. 
Don&#039;t be shy, I&#039;ll be the fat nigger with a camera and a whole host of cutting-edge audio-visual gear for my live on-the-street mid-demo Internet video blogging. 
Special invite to swlee still stands. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I see all you peeps there, its a good cause and there&#039;ll be free steak.</p>
<p>Mmm, free steak!</p>
<p>For those of you that haven&#039;t me me yet, come up and say hello.</p>
<p>Don&#039;t be shy, I&#039;ll be the fat nigger with a camera and a whole host of cutting-edge audio-visual gear for my live on-the-street mid-demo Internet video blogging.</p>
<p>Special invite to swlee still stands.</p>
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