Comments on: Osan Airbase Bans Soju http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/ Serving on the Forgotten Frontier Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:21:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: death very special airman http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-208520 death very special airman Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:56:32 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-208520 today marks 56 days since we lost Tim with being no closer to having any facts regarding his death. all the things we read on line points to this shit called soju, or alcohal of some sort with this in mind I have to agree people should be monitoring what the hell is going on over there.but the bottom line is whatever his cause of death was the end results are the same, he's gone forever, leaving behind a mother who can not sleep, eat,and all she does is cry and throw up, a father who is just going though the motions of life because he has to, a sister trying to go on as there are young children she needs to be there for. plus all of us the gramma, aunts uncles, cousins, friends, we are a exceptionally close family so this is trully unbearable!!! and half way around the world strangers seem to know what happened,but won't share any news with us.Please partying is fun I love it too, but if this a major promblems with our brave young men & women in the military I would love to believe the big dogs are trying to do something to protect all of you Please share with us what you know good, bad, otherwise. today marks 56 days since we lost Tim with being no closer to having any facts regarding his death. all the things we read on line points to this shit called soju, or alcohal of some sort with this in mind I have to agree people should be monitoring what the hell is going on over there.but the bottom line is whatever his cause of death was the end results are the same, he’s gone forever, leaving behind a mother who can not sleep, eat,and all she does is cry and throw up, a father who is just going though the motions of life because he has to, a sister trying to go on as there are young children she needs to be there for. plus all of us the gramma, aunts uncles, cousins, friends, we are a exceptionally close family so this is trully unbearable!!!
and half way around the world strangers seem to know what happened,but won’t share any news with us.Please partying is fun I love it too, but if this a major promblems with our brave young men & women in the military I would love to believe the big dogs are trying to do something to protect all of you Please share with us what you know good, bad, otherwise.

]]> By: Jeffery http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-207636 Jeffery Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:22:40 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-207636 I have a good one for ya ... Go to the Gateway club at Camp Humphreys which is right across the parking lot from the Military Police headquaters. The Gateway club used to be the post club and recreation center but it was left open for the old timers who like to smoke and drink. If you have the time to visit this establishment go there and look at who the regulars are. Mostly contractors, GS level and upper level ranking miitary making plans for ther next camping trip, BBQ, the issues in the work place and who to blackball but if you go after 20:00 all you will hear is a bunch of mush mouth slured jibber jabber and sometimes you might even see a few good fights. Its comical to watch. These individuals will go there and drink for hours some till closing time and then stumble out to there vehicals and drive themseves home or downtown and continue there drinking binge. You know the funny thing about it is the Military Police know this is happening but never stop any of them before they enter there vehical to check to see if they are intoxicated, its amazing but its all about who you know and thats why they get away with it. I think there should be check points at the exit gates to check these drunks before leaving base and being involved in a auto accident or runing over someone crossing the road. If there is anyone reading this who has any authority over establishing or emplamenting a check point at the exit gates please do because they are sliping thru the cracks and getting away with what all of these alcohol related issues are all about. I think the truth about the airmens death will have to be released because to much is covered up in alcohol related incidences when it only involves 1 individual because its EASY to cover up and will not reflect on the commands OERs which could make them or break them when there lookin for that full bird or there 1st star. I think this would be a good one for 20/20 or Dateline. Keep um sober if you can. Awatchnu I have a good one for ya … Go to the Gateway club at Camp Humphreys which is right across the parking lot from the Military Police headquaters. The Gateway club used to be the post club and recreation center but it was left open for the old timers who like to smoke and drink. If you have the time to visit this establishment go there and look at who the regulars are. Mostly contractors, GS level and upper level ranking miitary making plans for ther next camping trip, BBQ, the issues in the work place and who to blackball but if you go after 20:00 all you will hear is a bunch of mush mouth slured jibber jabber and sometimes you might even see a few good fights. Its comical to watch. These individuals will go there and drink for hours some till closing time and then stumble out to there vehicals and drive themseves home or downtown and continue there drinking binge. You know the funny thing about it is the Military Police know this is happening but never stop any of them before they enter there vehical to check to see if they are intoxicated, its amazing but its all about who you know and thats why they get away with it. I think there should be check points at the exit gates to check these drunks before leaving base and being involved in a auto accident or runing over someone crossing the road. If there is anyone reading this who has any authority over establishing or emplamenting a check point at the exit gates please do because they are sliping thru the cracks and getting away with what all of these alcohol related issues are all about.

I think the truth about the airmens death will have to be released because to much is covered up in alcohol related incidences when it only involves 1 individual because its EASY to cover up and will not reflect on the commands OERs which could make them or break them when there lookin for that full bird or there 1st star. I think this would be a good one for 20/20 or Dateline.
Keep um sober if you can.
Awatchnu

]]> By: Cienfuegos http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-205755 Cienfuegos Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:19:50 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-205755 Sort of off topic, but... The latest of Col. Norman's mind boggling decisions involves not letting females travel off base by themselves this weekend. I can't wait to hear the justification on this one. Sort of off topic, but…

The latest of Col. Norman’s mind boggling decisions involves not letting females travel off base by themselves this weekend. I can’t wait to hear the justification on this one.

]]> By: aunt of very special airman http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-185518 aunt of very special airman Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:04:56 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-185518 M fritzsmb55@aol.com M
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]]> By: Mike http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-185504 Mike Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:45:15 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-185504 I need your email address and I will contact you and explain other issues concerning this and other alcohol related incidents. Confidentality is important until the facts are straight. OK. M I need your email address and I will contact you and explain other issues concerning this and other alcohol related incidents. Confidentality is important until the facts are straight. OK.
M

]]> By: aunt of very special airman http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-185376 aunt of very special airman Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:25:21 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-185376 to mike, about your comment i think the family should dig a little deeper for facts., this is exactly what were trying to do,can you give me a clue as where do we start. we are not tryingto pass judgement, this is a horrible night mare,and all are in shock, and only want help with some kind of closure. i just found it unnessary for the judgement call made by some about the personality of our airman to mike,
about your comment i think the family should dig a little deeper for facts., this is exactly what were trying to do,can you give me a clue as where do we start.
we are not tryingto pass judgement, this is a horrible night mare,and all are in shock, and only want help with some kind of closure.
i just found it unnessary for the judgement call made by some about the personality of our airman

]]> By: Mike http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-184907 Mike Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:07:30 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-184907 SOJU =s LIQUID METH OR SHABU :evil: .. Bottom line its not something I would want my soilders drinking until they cant even walk thats to include any alcohol. Alcohol should be off limits to all military remember you are on duty 24/7 so fit to fight is impossible if the Post Commanders, Brigade/Unit Commanders Platoon leaders and Sergent Majors down the chain of command :roll: allow consumption of alcohol or bing drinking. And on Pay day these young guys go wild on when its pay day, weekend millionares :oops: . Its in sane to watch this in person and see these young kids and some civilians blowing chunks, passed out on the street laying in there own barf really makes the US military look capable to be fit to fight the next day if the need should arise. My condolences to the young soilder who died but. I think the family of this soilder should dig a little deeper if they want some facts. Mike SOJU =s LIQUID METH OR SHABU :evil: .. Bottom line its not something I would want my soilders drinking until they cant even walk thats to include any alcohol. Alcohol should be off limits to all military remember you are on duty 24/7 so fit to fight is impossible if the Post Commanders, Brigade/Unit Commanders Platoon leaders and Sergent Majors down the chain of command :roll: allow consumption of alcohol or bing drinking. And on Pay day these young guys go wild on when its pay day, weekend millionares :oops: . Its in sane to watch this in person and see these young kids and some civilians blowing chunks, passed out on the street laying in there own barf really makes the US military look capable to be fit to fight the next day if the need should arise.
My condolences to the young soilder who died but. I think the family of this soilder should dig a little deeper if they want some facts.
Mike

]]> By: Aunt Sheila "Crazy Cat Lady" http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-184886 Aunt Sheila "Crazy Cat Lady" Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:00:38 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-184886 Say what you will. We all no what happened. RIP. Gone but not Forgotten. God Bless America & All of those who serve :shock: Say what you will. We all no what happened. RIP. Gone but not Forgotten. God Bless America & All of those who serve :shock:

]]> By: aunt of very special airman http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-184728 aunt of very special airman Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:24:56 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-184728 :mad: :sad: you people and your pathetic comments about our airman's untimely death sickens me, and by reading such comments thank the LORD you people have never met him or you would never say these things, he loved life to the fullest,always had a smile, never in 31 years did i ever hear him say a harsh negative thing about another human being, he believed there is good in everybody and we humans should never judge another, and this is the thanks he gets from people. i hope & pray that your family never has to recieve a knock at the door, which in a blink of an eye makes their life stand still and become totally traumtized, with those awful gut wretching words, were here on behalf of your son and are trully sorry BUT... We will not rest until we do know what happened, so if anyone has actual facts,please with the grace of God help us!!! :mad: :sad: you people and your pathetic comments about our airman’s untimely death sickens me, and by reading such comments thank the LORD you people have never met him or you would never say these things, he loved life to the fullest,always had a smile, never in 31 years did i ever hear him say a harsh negative thing about another human being, he believed there is good in everybody and we humans should never judge another, and this is the thanks he gets from people.
i hope & pray that your family never has to recieve a knock at the door, which in a blink of an eye makes their life stand still and become totally traumtized, with those awful gut wretching words, were here on behalf of your son and are trully sorry BUT…
We will not rest until we do know what happened, so if anyone has actual facts,please with the grace of God help us!!!

]]> By: theairmancousin http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-184422 theairmancousin Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:27:30 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/2008/07/16/8894/#comment-184422 :sad: I HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE READING ALL THE COMMENTS AND CRYING! THE AIRMAN THAT PASSED AWAY ALONE IS HIS DORM HAPPENS TO BE A WONDERFUL GUY! HE WAS MY COUSIN, MY BROTHER, MY BEST FRIEND! 1ST LET ME SAY HE WAS NOT DEPRESSED, HE HAD NO MENTAL PROBLEMS, HE LOVED LIFE! HE WAS PROUD TO BE DOING HIS PART FOR THIS COUNTRY! AS WE WERE PROUD OF HIM, AND WE ARE PROUD OF ALL OF YOU FOR THE VERY SAME REASON! WE BEING HIS FAMILY BACK IN THE USA. ALL WE WERE TOLD IS THEY DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. THEY DID A RANDOM CHECK AND HE WAS LYING ON HIS FLOOR. SO IT SEEMS YOU ALL KNOW MORE THAN US. SO WEATHER THE DRINKING THING IS RUMOR OR FACT, IM NOT SURE. BUT AS FAR AS THIS BAN ON THE SHIT, IM NOT SURE WHAT TO SAY? I HAVE PERSONALLY NEVER TRIED SOJU, AND I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS SAYING ALL ALCOHOL CAN KILL PEOPLE, BUT HOW MANY OF US HAVE HAD TO MANY SOMTIME OR ANOTHER. AND IF THIS SHIT HAS THE SUCKER PUNCH OR TENDACY TO SNEAK UP ON SOMEONE, THE WAY I HAVE READ, I FEEL THAT DOES MAKE IT MORE LEATHEL. AND MORE OF A RISK! OTHER THAN THAT ALL I CAN SAY IS THERE IS A FAMILY LEFT WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED. AND THAT ANYTHING THAT MAKES IT MORE SAFE, OR A BETTER CHANCE TO BRING YOU ALL HOME ALIVE! I AGREE WITH! AND TO THE AIRMAN THAT DIED. HIS FAMILY LOVES HIM VERY MUCH, AND WE WILL FOREVER MISS YOU. GOD BLESS THE USA! AND ILL SEE YA WHEN I GET THERE! R.I.P WITH ALL OF OUR LOVE :sad: I HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE READING ALL THE COMMENTS AND CRYING! THE AIRMAN THAT PASSED AWAY ALONE IS HIS DORM HAPPENS TO BE A WONDERFUL GUY! HE WAS MY COUSIN, MY BROTHER, MY BEST FRIEND! 1ST LET ME SAY HE WAS NOT DEPRESSED, HE HAD NO MENTAL PROBLEMS, HE LOVED LIFE! HE WAS PROUD TO BE DOING HIS PART FOR THIS COUNTRY! AS WE WERE PROUD OF HIM, AND WE ARE PROUD OF ALL OF YOU FOR THE VERY SAME REASON! WE BEING HIS FAMILY BACK IN THE USA. ALL WE WERE TOLD IS THEY DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. THEY DID A RANDOM CHECK AND HE WAS LYING ON HIS FLOOR. SO IT SEEMS YOU ALL KNOW MORE THAN US. SO WEATHER THE DRINKING THING IS RUMOR OR FACT, IM NOT SURE. BUT AS FAR AS THIS BAN ON THE SHIT, IM NOT SURE WHAT TO SAY? I HAVE PERSONALLY NEVER TRIED SOJU, AND I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS SAYING ALL ALCOHOL CAN KILL PEOPLE, BUT HOW MANY OF US HAVE HAD TO MANY SOMTIME OR ANOTHER. AND IF THIS SHIT HAS THE SUCKER PUNCH OR TENDACY TO SNEAK UP ON SOMEONE, THE WAY I HAVE READ, I FEEL THAT DOES MAKE IT MORE LEATHEL. AND MORE OF A RISK! OTHER THAN THAT ALL I CAN SAY IS THERE IS A FAMILY LEFT WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED. AND THAT ANYTHING THAT MAKES IT MORE SAFE, OR A BETTER CHANCE TO BRING YOU ALL HOME ALIVE! I AGREE WITH! AND TO THE AIRMAN THAT DIED. HIS FAMILY LOVES HIM VERY MUCH, AND WE WILL FOREVER MISS YOU. GOD BLESS THE USA! AND ILL SEE YA WHEN I GET THERE! R.I.P WITH ALL OF OUR LOVE

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