Comments on: US & Korea Discuss North Korean Regime Collapse Planning

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By: More Reports of Chinese Troop Increases on North Korean Border

More Reports of Chinese Troop Increases on North Korean Border — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:09:41 +0000

[...] The Chinese have been taking North Korean regime collapse seriously for years and in recent months signs have been mounting that the US is finally taking North Korean regime collapse seriosly as well. So serious in fact [...]

By: CalmSeas

CalmSeas — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:39:47 +0000

“…just naturaly grumpy”

Thats what my wife always complains about me…I just don’t understand…

Another very important point to be made here is:
“Several infectious diseases—scarlet fever, measles, typhoid, paratyphoid, and typhus—are reportedly spreading inside North Korea now.”

Just think, with the mass exodus of refugees being un-checked, this could lead to a pandemic.

By: Gerry

Gerry — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:39:28 +0000

The UN “could ” play a major role when humanitarian assistance is needed should the north become open enough to receive aide. Large quantities of food and agricultural assistance would help in reducing the number of refuges fleeing across the southern border. If the Chinese gain control, I would be surprized if they asked for UN help. But thats possible as well.

By: Gerry

Gerry — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:32:58 +0000

Calmseas, Lol, No angst, just naturaly grumpy. Always ready to say what I believe is right. And you are correct, my opinions are based on history, not current data. So I will defer to your currency in the military issues. However the political ramifications of US troops entering into North Korea, as well as South Koreas interest doing anything should the north collapse, are open to debate. The takeover of North Korea by the Chinese may be unfavorable to South Korea, However it is not in the interests of the US to act in place of the South Koreans, both politically or militarily. If the South Koreans are not willing to do what needs to be done, it is not in the best interests of the US to step in and do it for them. North Korea is not worth it, and the US would open itself to condemnation from both North and south, as well as around the world. Not to mention the blood that would be spilled in large quantities should the Chinese oppose the US invasion. US SOF are not the answer either, there would not be enough to make a significant difference other than a political statement that the US is involved on the ground with the South Koreans. Those issues are neither off track, inconclusive, nor outdated

By: CalmSeas

CalmSeas — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:56:55 +0000

The UN was here in the 1950s…look at the mess it left…

The UN would only complicate things and more than likely, leave the entire Korean population with the short end of the stick…but in reality…YES, they will more than likely b running around somewhere.

By: Allison Turner

Allison Turner — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:34:23 +0000

Funny as this may be, is there any role for the UN? After all, a South Korean is in charge of the UN.

By: CalmSeas

CalmSeas — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:27:13 +0000

Damn Gerry:

Got a little angst going on there?

It is not about the family relationship here…the U.S. has vested interest in the situation, for whatever their reasons that I am not even trying to figure out, due to their dismal track record.

Notice that I said “SOF” forces…NOT SF…

I think that I am more than qualified to still know what the capabilities are of my bretheren are. The missions you listed are off-track/inconclusive & out-dated…period.

Units/missions do evolve.

The courses of action that I have outlined in my posts are right up the alley of the “Current” mission profiles of our SOF forces…who would “Accompany” S. korean forces “as Advisors” of course…into a turbulent N. Korea to ensure that their territory remained intact.

As for the “Heavy Lifting,” I still question S. Korea’s resolve.

I would still ask the question…”Are the current ROK forces up to the task of taking/securing N. Korea in the event of an internal collapse?”

By: Gerry

Gerry — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:34:08 +0000

South Korea is not little brother and we are big brother who must do thier thinking and fighting for them. There is no interest for the US in “Taking” North Korea. It is a Korean issue. If South Korea wants a unified Korea, let them go for it. If they want the US to do it for them, let them deal with the new Chinese government of North Korea. The US has no stake in the outcome. We do not need to be involved. US special forces are just that, “special forces”, not Army scouts, forward air controllers, or a blocking force. They do intell, special hunter killer missions, and on a larger scale can take an airstrip. They recruit and train indigenous troops to fight guerilla warfare. Understand the difference. While they are very good at what they do, they are not super heros from a video game. The “heavy hauling” needs to be done by the South Koreans, and only if they really want to. That is the issue they need to understand.