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		<title>By: Antonio Sosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Sosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If not stopped, the global warming scam will enrich the scammers (Gore), increase the power of the U.N. and Marxists like Obama, and multiply poverty and servitude for the rest of us. 
 
Believing that human activities can change the weather is like believing that the earth is the center of the universe. The earth is not the center of the universe. 
 
The more than 650 international scientists who dissent over man-made global warming claims are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers. 
 
Additionally, more than 31,000 American scientists have signed onto a petition that states, &#8220;There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth&#8217;s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth&#8217;s climate&#8230;&#8221; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pr-inside.com/the-petition-contains-the-signatures-of-r613239.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pr-inside.com/the-petition-contains-th...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
It is CRIMINAL to force us to swallow the global warming hoax, which will increase unemployment, poverty and dependence. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not stopped, the global warming scam will enrich the scammers (Gore), increase the power of the U.N. and Marxists like Obama, and multiply poverty and servitude for the rest of us.</p>
<p>Believing that human activities can change the weather is like believing that the earth is the center of the universe. The earth is not the center of the universe.</p>
<p>The more than 650 international scientists who dissent over man-made global warming claims are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.</p>
<p>Additionally, more than 31,000 American scientists have signed onto a petition that states, &ldquo;There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth&rsquo;s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth&rsquo;s climate&hellip;&rdquo; <a href="http://www.pr-inside.com/the-petition-contains-the-signatures-of-r613239.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pr-inside.com/the-petition-contains-th&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>It is CRIMINAL to force us to swallow the global warming hoax, which will increase unemployment, poverty and dependence.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry thanks for the comment.  I agree fully and that is why I have been saying before that a reduction in our oil consumption is needed for national security reasons: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rokdrop.com/2008/12/13/putting-ecuadors-foreign-debt-default-into-perspective/#comment-261500&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rokdrop.com/2008/12/13/putting-ecuadors-fo...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry thanks for the comment.  I agree fully and that is why I have been saying before that a reduction in our oil consumption is needed for national security reasons:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://rokdrop.com/2008/12/13/putting-ecuadors-foreign-debt-default-into-perspective/#comment-261500" rel="nofollow">http://rokdrop.com/2008/12/13/putting-ecuadors-fo&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I subject I can chime in on as an actual meteorologist!  Here&#039;s the rub about &quot;extremes&quot; in the weather....what is your time scale?  The earth has had a &quot;climate&quot; for millions of years.  You are looking at a slice of records which amounts to far less than 1% of history at a single point on the globe.  It not feasible to say the climate is changing just because it snows in the UK (an event which by the way was both expected and predicted based upon the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and the North Atlantic Oscillation....but I digress).  There are a lot of things that the US (using this nation as an example) can be doing in the name of national security and controlling our own economy to convert our energy practices and usage, but the fallacy of man-made global warming and the supposed ability to prevent climate change shouldn&#039;t be part of the arguement. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I subject I can chime in on as an actual meteorologist!  Here&#039;s the rub about &quot;extremes&quot; in the weather&#8230;.what is your time scale?  The earth has had a &quot;climate&quot; for millions of years.  You are looking at a slice of records which amounts to far less than 1% of history at a single point on the globe.  It not feasible to say the climate is changing just because it snows in the UK (an event which by the way was both expected and predicted based upon the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and the North Atlantic Oscillation&#8230;.but I digress).  There are a lot of things that the US (using this nation as an example) can be doing in the name of national security and controlling our own economy to convert our energy practices and usage, but the fallacy of man-made global warming and the supposed ability to prevent climate change shouldn&#039;t be part of the arguement.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes man made environmental damage is causing the snows to recede on Kili and not global warming. If the writer of the article said that instead of blaming global warming then I would have no issue with the article. 
 
Australia has been in drought and is now coming out of it because of heavy rains it has been receiving in the last two years.  Australia&#039;s rain fall is cyclical and during the recent drought years the total rain fall was similar to other years in the past century: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/rain.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/rain.shtml&lt;/a&gt;  
 
What is making drought years more significant for Australians&#039; is the fact there is more of them.  Australia&#039;s greatly increased population over the past 50 years strains their water resources on drier years because the environmentalists have been stopping the building of dams to support a higher population: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_join_the_dam_dots/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ind...&lt;/a&gt;   
 
Colder winters in London just proves the point about the global cooling going on right now that I have already mentioned. It has even snowed in New Orleans this year.  
 
As far as snow in Las Vegas, it is not unheard of for snow to fall in Las Vegas: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lvrj.com/news/36335684.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lvrj.com/news/36335684.html&lt;/a&gt;  
 
3.6 inches fell in this latest storm, if you read the article you will see that 30 years ago 7.8 inches fell on the city.  The snow fall record for Las Vegas is in 1949 when over 9 inches fell.  Was global warming induced climate change beginning back then?   
 
All throughout history there has been freak snow storms and years of drought. To expect the weather to remain the same is not plausible. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes man made environmental damage is causing the snows to recede on Kili and not global warming. If the writer of the article said that instead of blaming global warming then I would have no issue with the article.</p>
<p>Australia has been in drought and is now coming out of it because of heavy rains it has been receiving in the last two years.  Australia&#039;s rain fall is cyclical and during the recent drought years the total rain fall was similar to other years in the past century:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/rain.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/rain.shtml</a>  </p>
<p>What is making drought years more significant for Australians&#039; is the fact there is more of them.  Australia&#039;s greatly increased population over the past 50 years strains their water resources on drier years because the environmentalists have been stopping the building of dams to support a higher population:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_join_the_dam_dots/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ind&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>Colder winters in London just proves the point about the global cooling going on right now that I have already mentioned. It has even snowed in New Orleans this year. </p>
<p>As far as snow in Las Vegas, it is not unheard of for snow to fall in Las Vegas:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.lvrj.com/news/36335684.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lvrj.com/news/36335684.html</a>  </p>
<p>3.6 inches fell in this latest storm, if you read the article you will see that 30 years ago 7.8 inches fell on the city.  The snow fall record for Las Vegas is in 1949 when over 9 inches fell.  Was global warming induced climate change beginning back then?  </p>
<p>All throughout history there has been freak snow storms and years of drought. To expect the weather to remain the same is not plausible.</p>
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		<title>By: Korean Blogs &#124; Stafford Lumsden &#124; The Chosun Bimbo - Blog - Go. Read.&#160;Now.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korean Blogs &#124; Stafford Lumsden &#124; The Chosun Bimbo - Blog - Go. Read.&#160;Now.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChosunBimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChosunBimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for Al Gore but I would have to agree that it probably IS the deforestation causing Kili&#039;s snow cap to recede. That is to say some sort of man-made intervention affecting the environment. 
As for the argument that our climate changes, yes I have to admit to embracing the buzz word rather than the literal changing of climate. But as for getting one&#039;s facts straight, 2 instances of extreme drought in Australia in the last decade: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/sa/010123.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_release...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
and  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/18/2192358.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/18/219...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
and the UKs coldest winter in 2005: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article576791.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
and then the coldest again this time last year: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/29879/New-year-big-freeze-is-coming&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/29879/New-yea...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
and as if to illustrate the very point at debate, snow in Las Vegas!? How could you not at least consider the fact that SOMETHING is up when it comes to the weather. I don&#039;t agree with &quot;Global Warming&quot; per se, but I can&#039;t disagree that the extremes in the weather experienced in the last decade have happened, and might have something to do with environmental intervention by people. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t speak for Al Gore but I would have to agree that it probably IS the deforestation causing Kili&#039;s snow cap to recede. That is to say some sort of man-made intervention affecting the environment.</p>
<p>As for the argument that our climate changes, yes I have to admit to embracing the buzz word rather than the literal changing of climate. But as for getting one&#039;s facts straight, 2 instances of extreme drought in Australia in the last decade:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/sa/010123.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_release&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>and </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/18/2192358.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/18/219&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>and the UKs coldest winter in 2005:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article576791.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>and then the coldest again this time last year:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/29879/New-year-big-freeze-is-coming" rel="nofollow">http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/29879/New-yea&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>and as if to illustrate the very point at debate, snow in Las Vegas!? How could you not at least consider the fact that SOMETHING is up when it comes to the weather. I don&#039;t agree with &quot;Global Warming&quot; per se, but I can&#039;t disagree that the extremes in the weather experienced in the last decade have happened, and might have something to do with environmental intervention by people.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh by the way, I am currently holidaying in Las Vegas and it is snowing outside: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/dec/17/rain-snow-moving-las-vegas-valley/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/dec/17/rain-...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
That is the beauty of climate change, this freak snow storm here can be blamed on global warming as well. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way, I am currently holidaying in Las Vegas and it is snowing outside:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/dec/17/rain-snow-moving-las-vegas-valley/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/dec/17/rain-&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>That is the beauty of climate change, this freak snow storm here can be blamed on global warming as well.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If global warming industry cared about deforestation why is Al Gore and the rest of the usual suspects not repeating how deforestation is effecting the snow pack on Kiliminjaro and not global warming?  
 
Also global warming stopped 10 years ago.  This is why climate change is the new buzz word for the global warming industry.  You can say anything is climate change since the climate changes all the time through out history. 
 
Chosun Bimbo is playing the typical art of Climate Change cherry picking.  Two can play that game: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/cherry_picking_is_now_warming_science/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ind...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Plus you need to get your facts straight.  Australia is currently swamped with cool wet weather and floods: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/a_dam_would_have_been_safer/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ind...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
For those interested in the data going into those computer models read this: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6855&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6855&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If global warming industry cared about deforestation why is Al Gore and the rest of the usual suspects not repeating how deforestation is effecting the snow pack on Kiliminjaro and not global warming? </p>
<p>Also global warming stopped 10 years ago.  This is why climate change is the new buzz word for the global warming industry.  You can say anything is climate change since the climate changes all the time through out history.</p>
<p>Chosun Bimbo is playing the typical art of Climate Change cherry picking.  Two can play that game:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/cherry_picking_is_now_warming_science/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ind&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>Plus you need to get your facts straight.  Australia is currently swamped with cool wet weather and floods:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/a_dam_would_have_been_safer/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ind&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>For those interested in the data going into those computer models read this:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6855" rel="nofollow">http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6855</a></p>
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		<title>By: ChosunBimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChosunBimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GI Korea, a Global warming denier?! I feel betrayed. Oh wait a minute, no I don&#039;t. Global &quot;Warming&quot; has, and remains a bit of a fallacy. 
But would GI Korea concede that there has been profound extremes in weather over recent years (maybe decade). Take for example this year&#039;s coldest autumn in England on record Vs The hottest drought conditions in Australia at the same time. 
&quot;Is there such a thing as climate change?&quot; - that would&#039;ve been a better poll. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GI Korea, a Global warming denier?! I feel betrayed. Oh wait a minute, no I don&#039;t. Global &quot;Warming&quot; has, and remains a bit of a fallacy.</p>
<p>But would GI Korea concede that there has been profound extremes in weather over recent years (maybe decade). Take for example this year&#039;s coldest autumn in England on record Vs The hottest drought conditions in Australia at the same time.</p>
<p>&quot;Is there such a thing as climate change?&quot; &#8211; that would&#039;ve been a better poll.</p>
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		<title>By: JAFO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Future global warming is based on computerized climate models.  By plugging in today&#039;s numbers, the future can be predicted.   
 
The real test is to see if present conditions can be predicted by plugging in the numbers of the past. 
 
The inconvenient truth is that they don&#039;t. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Future global warming is based on computerized climate models.  By plugging in today&#039;s numbers, the future can be predicted.  </p>
<p>The real test is to see if present conditions can be predicted by plugging in the numbers of the past.</p>
<p>The inconvenient truth is that they don&#039;t.</p>
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