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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Time for Current TV to Talk About What Happened to Their Captured Reporters [Reporters In Peril] &#124; Geek &#38; High Tech</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Time for Current TV to Talk About What Happened to Their Captured Reporters [Reporters In Peril] &#124; Geek &#38; High Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to research by the Korea-focused website ROK Drop and its commenters, there are seven bridges between North Korea and China where the reporters might have been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Man from Modesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Man from Modesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:shock: 

I was warned of this very event in a dream more than a year before it happened. 

I was praying about what would be the sign that would prompt me to leave America. Revelation says, &quot;Come out of her my people, lest you suffer with her for her iniquities.&quot; 

Following this, the dream warned, there would be a missile attack on Japan. Then an angel&#039;s voice said, &quot;When Japan folds to China, that will be your warning.&quot;

Link to video on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvHeNObckKI</description>
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<p>I was warned of this very event in a dream more than a year before it happened. </p>
<p>I was praying about what would be the sign that would prompt me to leave America. Revelation says, &#8220;Come out of her my people, lest you suffer with her for her iniquities.&#8221; </p>
<p>Following this, the dream warned, there would be a missile attack on Japan. Then an angel&#8217;s voice said, &#8220;When Japan folds to China, that will be your warning.&#8221;</p>
<p>Link to video on YT: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvHeNObckKI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvHeNObckKI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Man from Modesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Man from Modesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Original articles immediately after the event speculated that they had crossed the frozen river. In March, those rivers are frozen. N. Korea and China each claim the opposing riverbank as the border. When the river is frozen, either nation could claim a false crossing. 

However, as the two women were captured dressed as Korean refugees, it is likely they did cross the border. 

The most interesting thing in the above article is this: the mention that the ladies could have been betrayed into capture. Would Al Gore&#039;s cronies sell out two young women in order to create international outrage, and assist in creating public sentiment against N. Korea?

If true, DISGUSTING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Original articles immediately after the event speculated that they had crossed the frozen river. In March, those rivers are frozen. N. Korea and China each claim the opposing riverbank as the border. When the river is frozen, either nation could claim a false crossing. </p>
<p>However, as the two women were captured dressed as Korean refugees, it is likely they did cross the border. </p>
<p>The most interesting thing in the above article is this: the mention that the ladies could have been betrayed into capture. Would Al Gore&#8217;s cronies sell out two young women in order to create international outrage, and assist in creating public sentiment against N. Korea?</p>
<p>If true, DISGUSTING!</p>
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		<title>By: Spelunker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spelunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our diligent friend at &quot;One Free Korea&quot; has been looking at Google Earth images to try and locate the border crossing at Onsong, which is where KCNA&#039;s report claims that the 3 American journalist were led across the Tumen River by their guide.

http://freekorea.us/2009/06/17/n-korea-ling-and-lee-filmed-themselves-entering-north-korea/#more-8599</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our diligent friend at &#8220;One Free Korea&#8221; has been looking at Google Earth images to try and locate the border crossing at Onsong, which is where KCNA&#8217;s report claims that the 3 American journalist were led across the Tumen River by their guide.</p>
<p><a href="http://freekorea.us/2009/06/17/n-korea-ling-and-lee-filmed-themselves-entering-north-korea/#more-8599" rel="nofollow">http://freekorea.us/2009/06/17/n-korea-ling-and-lee-filmed-themselves-entering-north-korea/#more-8599</a></p>
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		<title>By: In Seoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Seoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching your video of “North Korea Shop.” I’m curious as to why you have images of the words ‘The US Imperialist Started the War’ flickering on the screen. Are you a North Korean?

As for the clip in the North Korean propaganda building, the woman is obviously lying about knowing nothing about the two detained Americans. This brings into question her accusations about the two downed American pilots. It’s probably just a Korean War photo. North Koreans have been known to be pathologic liars; there is no need for a firm foundation in ethics when one’s religion is Kim Il-sung the divine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching your video of “North Korea Shop.” I’m curious as to why you have images of the words ‘The US Imperialist Started the War’ flickering on the screen. Are you a North Korean?</p>
<p>As for the clip in the North Korean propaganda building, the woman is obviously lying about knowing nothing about the two detained Americans. This brings into question her accusations about the two downed American pilots. It’s probably just a Korean War photo. North Koreans have been known to be pathologic liars; there is no need for a firm foundation in ethics when one’s religion is Kim Il-sung the divine.</p>
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		<title>By: TheNORTHKOREA</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheNORTHKOREA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>video of NORTH KOREA done in May 2009</description>
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		<title>By: TheNORTHKOREA</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheNORTHKOREA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>video of NORTH KOREA
http://www.youtube.com/TheNORTHKOREA</description>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/TheNORTHKOREA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/TheNORTHKOREA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spelunker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spelunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the transcript of Anderson Cooper&#039;s interview on June 9 with Jim Butterworth and Mike Kim concerning Yanji and the Tumen River area, where Current TV&#039;s crew was on assignment.  I have added my own comment at the end.  Let&#039;s see if CNN&#039;s AC360 blog publishes my comment as it&#039;s now &quot;awaiting moderation&quot;  
My new friends here at ROK Drop need not wait: 

Jim Butterworth: “…it is commonly believed that there are hundreds of North Korean agents who actually had infiltrated the Chinese side, which is almost entirely ethnic Korean .”

Anderson Cooper: “Why would they do that?”

Butterworth: “To capture not only refugees that had escaped into China… In fact there is a bounty paid to Chinese citizens that would turn in North Korean refugees but the bounty is actually 10 times that if they would turn in the activists that would help them or anyone that would assist them.”

Mike Kim; “… North Korea will send spies posing as refugees to infiltrate networks and as a result there have been people abducted… and it really threatens the work of NGO’s there.”

Spelunker: “So then it’s not unreasonable to assume that the ethnic Korean citizen of China that led Current TV’s crew to the Tumen River border on the morning of their departure from Yanji to Dandong could have been acting on an extremely high bounty after tipping off Pyongyang spies that 3 US passport holding journalists were in Yanji interviewing North Korean refugees.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the transcript of Anderson Cooper&#8217;s interview on June 9 with Jim Butterworth and Mike Kim concerning Yanji and the Tumen River area, where Current TV&#8217;s crew was on assignment.  I have added my own comment at the end.  Let&#8217;s see if CNN&#8217;s AC360 blog publishes my comment as it&#8217;s now &#8220;awaiting moderation&#8221;<br />
My new friends here at ROK Drop need not wait: </p>
<p>Jim Butterworth: “…it is commonly believed that there are hundreds of North Korean agents who actually had infiltrated the Chinese side, which is almost entirely ethnic Korean .”</p>
<p>Anderson Cooper: “Why would they do that?”</p>
<p>Butterworth: “To capture not only refugees that had escaped into China… In fact there is a bounty paid to Chinese citizens that would turn in North Korean refugees but the bounty is actually 10 times that if they would turn in the activists that would help them or anyone that would assist them.”</p>
<p>Mike Kim; “… North Korea will send spies posing as refugees to infiltrate networks and as a result there have been people abducted… and it really threatens the work of NGO’s there.”</p>
<p>Spelunker: “So then it’s not unreasonable to assume that the ethnic Korean citizen of China that led Current TV’s crew to the Tumen River border on the morning of their departure from Yanji to Dandong could have been acting on an extremely high bounty after tipping off Pyongyang spies that 3 US passport holding journalists were in Yanji interviewing North Korean refugees.”</p>
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		<title>By: Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stafford, the north Koreans will clear trees from observation posts but the widescale deforestation is due to foraging for both food and fuel to keep warm.  Once they pulled up all the grass, water errosion finished off what was left of many of the trees.  Use google earth and you will see it isn&#039;t just limited to the border areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stafford, the north Koreans will clear trees from observation posts but the widescale deforestation is due to foraging for both food and fuel to keep warm.  Once they pulled up all the grass, water errosion finished off what was left of many of the trees.  Use google earth and you will see it isn&#8217;t just limited to the border areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Spelunker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spelunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, I have a few possible clues for you.  (I&#039;m all over this story!)   :shock: 

1.
This is from Seattle blogger Robert Blevins of Adventure Books and his opinion published on Newsvine:

Witnesses and reports in South Korean media tell a different story. According to local sources, Laura Ling, Euna Lee, along with a local guide and cameraman Mitch Koss were attempting to cross the frozen Tumen river when they were accosted by border guards. Mitch Koss and the guide shoved the North Korean soldiers and fled back into China. Both men were later arrested by Chinese border guards near the town of Yanji and are being held in an undisclosed location. The two women were caught by the North Korean soldiers.

http://adventurebooks.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/07/2645835-reporters-working-for-al-gore-held-prisoner-in-north-korea-the-real-story-behind-their-capture

There is a photo of one of the Tumen River bridges here as well!

2.  
This is from USA Today&#039;a article back on March 22:

&quot;The journalists and cameraman Mitch Koss were following their guide across the frozen Tumen River early Tuesday morning when North Korean soldiers armed with rifles approached them from a half-hidden guard post, the South Korean Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported Saturday. It cited activists working with North Korean refugees in China and other unidentified sources.

Koss and the guide pushed the North Korean soldiers away and ran back toward China, but Ling and Lee were caught, the newspaper said, citing an unidentified source.

Koss and the guide were later seized by Chinese border guards and sent to the Chinese Public Security Bureau, the newspaper said. Their whereabouts remain unclear.&quot;

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-03-21-northkorea-us-journalists_N.htm

There is another amusing tidbit in the USA Today article from Reverend Chun Ki Won about the purpose of Current TV&#039;s trip to Yanji,  &quot;where they planned to interview women forced by human traffickers to strip for online customers&quot;

3.  
In this Seattle Times article on March 20, Reverend Chun says Koss got away at the last minute:

&quot;They were detained that day, along with their guide, Chun said, citing sources he refused to name. He said it was unclear whether they were seized in North Korean or Chinese territory.

He said his sources told him that Koss, a cameraman, escaped arrest &quot;at the last minute.&quot; He said he did not know where Koss was.&quot;

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008891931_nkor20.html

4.  
This is from RushPR News on June 4:

&quot;Lee and Ling were taken by border police at a bridge crossing over the Tumen River, which forms part of the border between North Korea and China. Mitchell Koss, executive producer of Current TV’s Vanguard Journalism reporting unit, and a driver were working with them but were not taken.&quot;

http://www.rushprnews.com/2009/06/04/call-for-journalists-release-as-trial-date-nears-in-north-korea/

5.  
Here is another interesting website that mentions Mitch Koss and the Tumen River incident:

http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/Jilin_Province/Jilin_Source/Jilin_Province-Highlights-Monuments-Scenic_Sites.html

Scroll down to the satellite image of the Korean peninsula for some pretty good insight on the Tumen River area as well as commentary on Mitch Koss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I have a few possible clues for you.  (I&#8217;m all over this story!)   <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>1.<br />
This is from Seattle blogger Robert Blevins of Adventure Books and his opinion published on Newsvine:</p>
<p>Witnesses and reports in South Korean media tell a different story. According to local sources, Laura Ling, Euna Lee, along with a local guide and cameraman Mitch Koss were attempting to cross the frozen Tumen river when they were accosted by border guards. Mitch Koss and the guide shoved the North Korean soldiers and fled back into China. Both men were later arrested by Chinese border guards near the town of Yanji and are being held in an undisclosed location. The two women were caught by the North Korean soldiers.</p>
<p><a href="http://adventurebooks.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/07/2645835-reporters-working-for-al-gore-held-prisoner-in-north-korea-the-real-story-behind-their-capture" rel="nofollow">http://adventurebooks.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/07/2645835-reporters-working-for-al-gore-held-prisoner-in-north-korea-the-real-story-behind-their-capture</a></p>
<p>There is a photo of one of the Tumen River bridges here as well!</p>
<p>2.<br />
This is from USA Today&#8217;a article back on March 22:</p>
<p>&#8220;The journalists and cameraman Mitch Koss were following their guide across the frozen Tumen River early Tuesday morning when North Korean soldiers armed with rifles approached them from a half-hidden guard post, the South Korean Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported Saturday. It cited activists working with North Korean refugees in China and other unidentified sources.</p>
<p>Koss and the guide pushed the North Korean soldiers away and ran back toward China, but Ling and Lee were caught, the newspaper said, citing an unidentified source.</p>
<p>Koss and the guide were later seized by Chinese border guards and sent to the Chinese Public Security Bureau, the newspaper said. Their whereabouts remain unclear.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-03-21-northkorea-us-journalists_N.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-03-21-northkorea-us-journalists_N.htm</a></p>
<p>There is another amusing tidbit in the USA Today article from Reverend Chun Ki Won about the purpose of Current TV&#8217;s trip to Yanji,  &#8220;where they planned to interview women forced by human traffickers to strip for online customers&#8221;</p>
<p>3.<br />
In this Seattle Times article on March 20, Reverend Chun says Koss got away at the last minute:</p>
<p>&#8220;They were detained that day, along with their guide, Chun said, citing sources he refused to name. He said it was unclear whether they were seized in North Korean or Chinese territory.</p>
<p>He said his sources told him that Koss, a cameraman, escaped arrest &#8220;at the last minute.&#8221; He said he did not know where Koss was.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008891931_nkor20.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008891931_nkor20.html</a></p>
<p>4.<br />
This is from RushPR News on June 4:</p>
<p>&#8220;Lee and Ling were taken by border police at a bridge crossing over the Tumen River, which forms part of the border between North Korea and China. Mitchell Koss, executive producer of Current TV’s Vanguard Journalism reporting unit, and a driver were working with them but were not taken.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rushprnews.com/2009/06/04/call-for-journalists-release-as-trial-date-nears-in-north-korea/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rushprnews.com/2009/06/04/call-for-journalists-release-as-trial-date-nears-in-north-korea/</a></p>
<p>5.<br />
Here is another interesting website that mentions Mitch Koss and the Tumen River incident:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/Jilin_Province/Jilin_Source/Jilin_Province-Highlights-Monuments-Scenic_Sites.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/Jilin_Province/Jilin_Source/Jilin_Province-Highlights-Monuments-Scenic_Sites.html</a></p>
<p>Scroll down to the satellite image of the Korean peninsula for some pretty good insight on the Tumen River area as well as commentary on Mitch Koss.</p>
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