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By GI Korea on July 5th, 2009 at 5:58 am

Jon Huer On Why He Dislikes the US

Via the Marmot’s Hole comes the latest article in the Korea Times by the controversial Jon Huer that decides to take a few shots at the US over this Independence Day holiday:

With the Fourth of July coming up and bases getting ready to celebrate our Independence Day, I am beginning to have second thoughts: Maybe it was a mistake, a costly one, for the colonies to have fought and won the War of Independence against Great Britain. Maybe we should have stayed with England and we would be much happier and more peaceful. Before anybody gets mad at me, let me give my reasons.  [Korea Times]

If you are wondering Jon Huer is a Californian that got his Ph.D in sociology from UCLA and is just another example of a California liberal hating his country.  He could definitely “talk about interesting things at dinner” with Gwyneth Paltrow.  Anyway he goes on to explain his dislike for his country.

His first complaint is that he wishes the US lost the Revolutionary War to Britain so the US could be happy nations like Australia and Canada. For countries that are allegedly so much more happier than Americans, how come both Canada and Australia have nearly the same suicide rates as the US?  Huer goes on to say that everything in Canada and Australia are better then the US mentioning things such as crime rates.  First of all statistics in different countries are gathered in different ways.  So if the statistics are not collected in the same way then they are useless.  However, just to further shoot down Jon Huer here is an exerpt from the 2008 Australian Crime & Safety Report:

Australia’s urban crime rate is on par with most large cities in the United States that have medium crime rates.

As far as Canada they allegedly have a violent crime rate twice that of the US:

Gottlieb cites an article by Canada’s National Post columnist David Frum where he revealed that “Canada’s overall crime rate is now 50 percent higher than the crime rate in the United States.” Moreover, “Since the early 1990s, crime rates have dropped in 48 of the 50 states and 80 percent of American cities. Over that same period, crime rates have risen in six of the 10 Canadian provinces and in seven of Canada’s 10 biggest cities.”

He also cites the most recent complete data available from both countries that shows that in 2003, the violent crime rate in the United States was 475 per 100,000 people; while up north, there were 963 violent crimes per 100,000 people. The figure for sexual assault in Canada per 100,000 people was more than double that of the United States: 74 as opposed to 32.1; and the assault rate in Canada was also more than twice that of the states: 746 to America’s 295 for the people.

Moreover, he cites research that showed the figure for sexual assault in Canada per 100,000 people was more than double that of the United States: 74 as opposed to 32.1; and the assault rate in Canada was more than twice that of the United States: 746 to America’s 295. Also, in 2005, Toronto had 78 murders; that’s a 28 percent increase in homicides since 1995.

Remember what I said before about statistics, but obviously both Australia and Canada are not the low crime paradises that Huer makes them out to be.  Huer makes a huge leap in logic by claiming the US would become free and independent in time like Australia and Canada if the colonists did not launch the Revolutionary War.  For having a doctorate degree in sociology Huer definitely doesn’t know his history considering that the British learned from their experience fighting in the Revolutionary War to better manage their colonies so they would not have to fight another expensivie revolution.  There is absolutely no guarantee that Canada and Australia would have evolved the way they did if it was not for the American Revolution.

Next Huer goes on to complain that Americans do not pay enough tax like the Canadians and Australians.  Well if you look at the income tax rates for the three countries they are all nearly similar overall:

Huer then claims that American tax payers are not paying enough taxes for public schools.  I paid $2,800 in property taxes last year for the public schools in my area and Huer doesn’t think I am paying enough?  I don’t even have any kids in school to get anything out of that tax money.  In fact when I have kids that are of school age my wife and I will put them in private scholl instead of the substandard schools my $2,800 tax bill go to pay.  I have to wonder if Huer owns in property in the US since he is living in Seoul?  If he doesn’t he has some nerve claiming people like myself are not paying enough in taxes for schools. Plus if you look at the graphs in this report provided the UN, the US is one of the world’s leaders in education spending that tops both Canada and Australia.

Huer then goes on to complain about massives deficits but earlier in the article he complaining about the lack of universal health care in the US and more funding for schools that would only further increase the deficit.  Probably the most outrageous claim by Huer is that it was a “national humiliation” to have assistance from the French during the Revolutionary War.  He tries to tie the French help to the US-ROK SOFA agreement being a humilation for South Korea.  What is especially ironic about this statement is that Jon Huer is dependent on the US-ROK SOFA considering he teaches at the University of Maryland extended campus on Yongsan Garrison in Seoul.

The article is filled with plenty of more crap, but I think everyone gets the point by now because Jon Huer isn’t worth any more of time responding to.  Isn’t it incredible that this garbage is worth a Ph.D from UCLA?

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  • Benicio74
    7:13 am on July 5th, 2009 1

    I couldn’t make past the 4th paragraph as it was making my physically ill.
    I swear that Huer is making a bid for dipshit of the year.
    his logical falacies and ridiculously stupid points of “evidence”
    are worse than any Friday the 13th movie.
    The guy is just a farkin’ dipshit wannabe intellectual who
    has no business publishing his lame excuses of “thought”!
    Time for him to put up or shut up- turn in that US passport
    for a Korean one or shut the f*ck up forever!

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    Rebecca
    July 7th, 2009 at 7:53 am

    I take offense at another Californial liberal hating their country. I am nothing like that anti-Ameican racist. I am a Californial liberal who is extremely patriotic so please be careful when you make generalizations like Huer. I actually wrote an editorial against his BS that was published in the Korea Times. I just honestly don’t understand how he can get away with such falsehoods and fabrications and he angers me so much that I am so glad that there are others out there who equally despise this *&^$$! There should be a Facebook group who dislike him.

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  • USinKorea
    9:05 am on July 5th, 2009 2

    I stopped at “got his Ph.D in sociology…”

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  • fsa
    10:51 am on July 5th, 2009 3

    What does it matter? This guy isn’t American. No matter how many times he uses the pronoun “we” in this article.

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  • Miriam
    3:57 pm on July 5th, 2009 4

    Haha, I am not American and he’s got a very good point. What a smart guy!

    The world would be a much better place if the US had remained in the British fold for longer..

    Your country is the most aggressive, egoistical, polluting, imperialist place on earth!

    On top of that, you want the rest of the world to worship you for your “culture” (lol) and love of freedom (to be a consumer of American products, that is).

    :lol:

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  • Lemmy
    6:47 pm on July 5th, 2009 5

    Let us pray-
    Dear Heavenly Father-

    I pray to you that Jon Huer is involved in a car crash in Seoul where he is trapped in the car, it catches fire and not one Korean stops to help him. I pray that he suffers 3d and 4th degree burns over 100% of his body and loses his limbs at the knees and elbows. I then pray that he is convicted in Korean court for causing the accident and has to pay for scratching the dump truck he damaged and has to pay for the dump truck drivers injuries.

    Please God, I beg of you –

    Amen

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  • Lemmy
    6:49 pm on July 5th, 2009 6

    Huer is summed up this way,

    Jon Huer teaches in Korea.

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  • dan85
    8:05 pm on July 5th, 2009 7

    What a loser.

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  • Cloying_odor
    4:35 am on July 6th, 2009 8

    If you have a Ph.D from UCLA and the best you can do is teach for a second rate overseas community college run by contractors that gives the actual University of Maryland a bad name then you shouldn’t be running your mouth. It’s almost as bad as having a Ph.D and working as a civil servent in the U.S. Government.

    I am down with the DIAFIRL prayer. The dude is an oxygen thief and probably smells of little boy buttholes. (props to Katt Williams for the inspiration for part of that comment).

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  • Lemmy
    6:57 am on July 6th, 2009 9

    I would write more, but I have to take a Huer. Then I’m going to wipe my Huer to make sure I got all the huer off my Huer Huer and then I’m going to take and flush the huer down the toilet.

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  • Lemmy
    7:47 am on August 29th, 2009 10

    A message from Huer
    You are getting this message because you have written to me regarding my columns in the Korea Times, both positive and negative. I appreciate your passion and involvement in social-intellectual-cultural issues in Korea and elsewhere.

    The Korea Times has decided that the critical and negative comments are too much to bear and has “suspended” my Series. I am letting you know of this development in case you wonder why there are no more “Jon Huer Columns” appearing in the Korea Times.

    Through 55-60 articles I wrote for the Times, I have really enjoyed communicating with you, often arguing and sometimes lamenting together. I was planning a 100-article Series but whatever has appeared already is quite enough for me and I truly appreciate what the Korea Times has done.

    Wishing you the very best,

    Jon Huer

    Jon Huer, Ph.D.
    Professor of Sociology
    UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND UNIVERSITY COLLEGE
    http://www.jonhuer.com or http://sensei.ad.umuc.edu/jhuer
    019-269-6157

    “IF NOT EDUCATION, WHAT?” Jon Huer

    “It is difficult to teach a man something when his salary (or lifestyle) depends upon his not learning it.” Upton Sinclar

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