By That is what this guy wants:
South Korea’s Military Law imposing the duty of national defense solely on men has been challenged in a court hearing.
A man filed a complaint with the Constitutional Court, claiming the law conflicted with the right to equality, which is protected under the Constitution.
The court had a public hearing on this issue Thursday, with the date of a ruling yet to be fixed.
Lawyer Chae Hyeong-seok representing the petitioner said, “The Constitution stipulates the duty of national defense is comprehensively applied to men and women alike. But the Conscription Act mandates only men to undertake military service, which is unconstitutional.”
Chae said physical strength had been a key factor imposing the duty solely on men, while exempting women from the obligation, but this was no longer applicable.
“The physical strength of soldiers was important in conventional wars. However, state-of-the-art weaponry is much more valuable these days, meaning it’s unnecessary to limit conscription to men,” he said. [Korea Times]
I think the guy has a point that a woman could be conscripted to do non-physically demanding jobs. However, if you conscripted every female in Korea there would literally be too many soldiers that are not needed and would increase costs. Plus the ROK government is already trying to down size their military and are not looking for a massive increase that conscripting women would bring. I did find it amusing that lawyers for the Korean Defense Ministry are defending not conscripting women by saying they need women to stay home and make babies.
However, I think the bigger picture being missed here which is does Korea still need the mandatory service requirement in the first place? There has been movements before to professionalize the force. South Korea is a wealthy and modern country that is for all intents and purposes using forced labor to man their military force. Professionalizing the ROK Army would come at a large cost due to increased pay and benefits to recruit soldiers. These costs are likley why the ROK Army will not be fully professionalized anytime in the near future thus continuing the increasing amount of antagonism within Korean society against conscription.
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8:17 am on July 9th, 2009 1
Women should stay at home and have babies? That’s their key argument?
Probably not the best defense against accusations of discrimination.
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8:25 am on July 9th, 2009 2
I wonder though if a pure volunteer army will be able to recruit sufficient manpower. I know that at this point, conscripting women would overwhelm the ranks, but I remember looking at some ROK white papers that were predicting difficulty in meeting manpower requirements in a decade or two due to the shrinking population.
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10:17 am on July 9th, 2009 3
If they all looked like her, no problem..RUCK UP!
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5:25 pm on July 9th, 2009 4
Yeah, you have a point that the ROK military would be too high if they drafted ALL young men and women, but, they could do a lottery system, much like they did in the States in the ’60’s. That way not ALL young men nor ALL young women would have to serve. If your number was low, well, soooo sorry, if your number was high, well, good on you….. It seems an equitable solution.
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5:54 pm on July 9th, 2009 5
I think they should start conscripting women into the Korean military as soon as possible.
It brings a tear to my eye every time I think about how all those poor, young Korean soldiers are missing out on hours of sensitivity training, equality awareness workshops and sexual assault prevention stand downs.
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November 13th, 2009 at 9:06 am
AAHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The ROK Army needs to stop pu–y-footing around and allow those
girls to be equal.
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6:26 pm on July 9th, 2009 6
Not all recruits serve in the armed forces. Some work in government offices and others are traffic cops or in the riot police.
If they cut the number of months that recruits must serve by half, recruiting women probably wouldn’t overwhelm the ranks.
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6:35 pm on July 9th, 2009 7
Cutting the number of months would result in a highly under-trained military, though. It would be better to keep the length of time at a minimum of 2 years and do a lottery system.
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7:40 pm on July 9th, 2009 8
As Gillian said then you end up with an under-trained force. It takes about a year to properly train a soldier and then the ROK’s get one year of good use out of him.
What I have always maintained is that the ROK’s should look to professionalize their force. It is not possible to do it all at once but take a 20-25 year approach to it where slowly you make units on the DMZ all volunteer and make rear units conscripted.
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1:00 am on July 10th, 2009 9
Yes and many gyopos too!
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1:16 pm on July 10th, 2009 10
Ok here is my two cents on this. one in korean society a member of the ROK military is looked down upon in society especially if you serve past the mandatory time. Because Koreans think that they are low class and cannot get a job in the real workforce. two israel has a mandatory service for males and females and their military on a toe to toe can really ause damage. I hate to sound bad but Koreans are lazy especially their military and its even worse with their conscripted service members. Now if they were to be able to show the society that being a soldier is a great thing your doing kind of the same way the US up plays our soldiers then recruitment might be better. But it is really hard for a country that is in industrially and technologically modern but their culture is still not up to date. now three what about female katusas that in itself would be another not equal opportunity since the males can do it. now i can forsee a lot of issues with that especially since a lot of young soldiers coming and seeing a female katusa that looks like the picture. that has potential sexual assault written all over it. i am a believer that the military should be volunteer however that is not possible everywhere.
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November 13th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Just to be clear—-are you saying that Americans can do something that Koreans are not capable of doing?
That Koreans are somewhat backward in their treatment of females.
Just to be clear—-
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4:08 pm on July 10th, 2009 11
I agree that the situation would open up the potention for sexual assult, however, that is a social problem, not necessarily a military one. Sexual harassment and abuse is rampent in Korean society. And as has already pointed out, soldiers would be forced to sit through “hours of sensitivity training, equality awareness workshops and sexual assault prevention stand downs” as Chickenhead so succinctly pointed out. This would be, in my opinion, one of the major benefits from making women serve in the military.
All of this gender equality training would only benefit Korean society, since these young men would eventually become civilians and they would bring their training with them.
I have had this discussion in some of my classes, and the fact that Korea’s gender equality is just barely above Turkey’s, and that if the women of Korea want gender equality, then they have to take the bad with the good. And that means serving in the military.
If one looks at the US, gender equality didn’t really materialize until women became a common sight in the military. Yes, there were issues of sexual harassment and assult, but again, that was a society-wide problem that became better AFTER women in the military became a common sight.
If the women in Korea want to continue to earn $60 to every $100 that the men earn, fine, she can have her way and not serve in the military. But if true gender equality is to be realized, then it must be REAL gender equality.
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10:21 pm on July 10th, 2009 12
Great. Bringing women into the military has had so many positive effects on the US military, I think we should spread the pain, er, wealth.
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10:32 pm on July 10th, 2009 13
LOL, I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or sincere. I guess this begs the question: What have been the pros and cons of having women in the US military?
As far as spreading the pain, well, at the risk of repeating myself, if the women of Korea want the benefits of gender equality, then they will have to share in the pain also. To expect otherwise is an unreasonable expectation.
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10:37 pm on July 10th, 2009 14
Just because women serve in the US military, you think it has created gender equality? What is that anyway?
If anything it has made the differences more distinct and screwed it up for almost all concerned.
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12:52 am on July 11th, 2009 15
Well, that is certainly an interesting response, although not a particularly enlightening one. For a definition of gender equality, this is probably not an appropriate forum.
I am more interested in how, specifically, having women in the military has “screwed it up for almost all concerned”? I am not trying to be obtuse, I really would like to know.
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11:26 pm on July 13th, 2009 16
[...] ROK Drop discusses whether the Korean Army should also conscript women, or do away with conscription altogether. Given [...]
8:36 pm on August 21st, 2009 17
My suggestion is that they apply the act to both men and women but drastically increase the number of reasons you can be exempted. That solves the contradiction of the current law that only applies to males and it allows the force to downsize/professionalize.
Just make it really easy to avoid the service which basically guts the law by removing its teeth. Kill two birds with one stone.
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9:01 pm on August 21st, 2009 18
I say they should conscript women but give them an exemption if they have a defective Y chromosome.
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6:30 pm on November 12th, 2009 19
I knew they couldn’t conscript women, but I always thought that women could voluntarily enlist. Now I learn that the ROK military only allowed for women to be officers.
Women May Volunteer as Rank-and-File Soldiers
All this time I thought I had seen women wearing stripes. I guess I hadn’t been looking closely enough and will try to do better from now on.
I know they wear insignia on there hats, but I often see ROK military females without hats. The other insignia is hard to spot in all that cammo, but it’s somewhere on their chest, right?
“Pardon my staring, ma’am.”
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November 12th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
The link to the story was http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/11/113_55354.html
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12:24 am on November 13th, 2009 20
It has disaster written all over it. But will our military’s leadership be honest with ROK and advise them not to do it? Or will they give the “PC” answer that “everyone is exactly the same”?
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2:18 am on November 13th, 2009 21
Yes!!
Korean girls = Hot
Korean girls in uniform with weapons = Hotter!
If the 2nd Korean war ever does happen to break out, a battalion of cute Korean girls might do well to distract the North Koreans.
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November 13th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Think if they have been together long enought to be on the same cycle.
and they are pissed off!!!!
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2:23 am on November 13th, 2009 22
They haven’t advanced to where they can be trusted not to physically abuse mixed-race Koreans or even not sexually assault other male enlistees. Females enlistees won’t stand a chance.
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7:07 am on November 13th, 2009 23
Do they still have the “Black Widow” battalion? Its the battalion of beautiful Korean women, trained in the arts of seduction and assasination, with the mission to entice and kill NK generals. Or is the battalion just another urban legend?
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1:38 pm on November 13th, 2009 24
Okay, so I have heard a lot of sniped against women in the military, followed by the typical “yuk,yuk,yuk” but as yet noone has enlightened me as to the problems/pain of having woment in the military. Am I to assume this is the reverse of penis envy?
If the concern is for the (sexual) safety of the women, well, my suggestion is that the men learn to put their tool into approprate, and willing, recepticles. This is not Saudi Arabia for crying out loud. We shouldn’t have to protect the women from ourselves.
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November 13th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
The reverse of penis envy? No such think woman.
Men can pee ANYWHERE, and stand up doing it. I once walked and pissed at the same time (didn’t get any on me either).
But to address your concerns in all seriousness.
1. I once stood in a company formation while some female and an MP walked thru the ranks lookin for the guy that raped her rear end the night before. I don’t sleep with the window unlocked! But she did, and all males were guilty untill she walked thru the ranks.
2. I was on hall guard in AIT. This male E5 was reclassing and came to the second floor and went into HIS room. I was stationed 3 feet from his door. She came up, smiled at me and went into his room. Ten minutes later she came out, smiled at me and went down to the 1st floor—where her boyfriend was waiting. I hear that she started crying and said she had been raped.
Just being accused ENDED that Sergeant’s career. No one wanted to hear my report!
3. I was at Fort Campbell and a sweet little thing filed sexual harassment charges on all the E5s in the platoon except me (7 or 8). What I thought funny was, I was the one that was always telling her what I did with hookers while i was in korea! She was on her second divorce.
4. Men are assumed to have a problem with women. Women use this against men who are in charge of them. IE = I can chew a male soldiers ass for F ing up, but if I treat a female soldier the same as I would a male, I risk sexual harassment charges.
5. I was in Bosnia. I have a bad knee and was lifting in the gym for PT. A “female” soldier was lifting, doing wrist curls with the smallest weight she could find. After I did my benches and shoulder work, I saw she was STILL doing wrist curls. For over half an hour! She said she had hurt her ankle. OK! FINE! I went over and leaned down to her ear and told her she should exercise other areas, like her arms, for push ups. Three hours later and I’m explaining all this because she has made the statement that I have a problem with women in the army.
As for your assertion that it is the men’s problem—your wrong. Each person is responsible for their own safety. Only an idiot sleeps with the window unlocked on a base with a shortage of women. Stupid!
There was no rape problem in the philippines with airmen and sailors, that I ever heard of. Plenty willing little holes outside the gate.
Women need to protect THEMSELVES! Rape happens EVERYWHERE! If you were older, you would know that. Saudi Arabia? WTF!
While I’m at it, women need to learn how to “put the seat down”.
I don’t bitchhh about lifting it up.
If you think your equal then act like your equal.
Women give themselves a bad rap in the Military.
I did know ONE that I respected. She was a dike with a butch haircut. We worked out with the weights together. She also went with me to the bars outside the gate a few times to check out the dancers.
Once while walking to the gym I saw this blond going the other way and looked.
She told me not to worry about that one. She said she would get some of that before I did.
If your a Soldier, then ACT like one.
If you “think” your a Lady, do us all a favor and leave soldiering to Soldiers.
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6:48 pm on November 13th, 2009 25
Women need to protect THEMSELVES! Rape happens EVERYWHERE! If you were older, you would know that. Saudi Arabia? WTF!
First of all, Retired GI, I am 52 years old. I HAVE grown up. Have you? Perhaps you should go back and live with your mommy so she can further your education in basic manners and not jumping to conclusions.
Men can pee ANYWHERE, and stand up doing it. I once walked and pissed at the same time (didn’t get any on me either).
Not THAT is what I call talented. Definitely a prerequisite for military duty.
1. I once stood in a company formation while some female and an MP walked thru the ranks lookin for the guy that raped her rear end the night before. I don’t sleep with the window unlocked! But she did, and all males were guilty untill she walked thru the ranks.
Guess someone forgot to pay attention to where he put his tool, eh? So, what you are saying is, women must be especially careful around men because they operate under the instructions of “Big head” while ignoring “Little head” and should said woman forget that men cannot be trusted, she will get raped. By your own admission, men rape. Since, as you say, men can’t be trusted, why the whine when men are all considered guilty? These are YOUR words, NOT MINE.
2. I was on hall guard in AIT. This male E5 was reclassing and came to the second floor and went into HIS room. I was stationed 3 feet from his door. She came up, smiled at me and went into his room. Ten minutes later she came out, smiled at me and went down to the 1st floor—where her boyfriend was waiting. I hear that she started crying and said she had been raped.
Just being accused ENDED that Sergeant’s career. No one wanted to hear my report!
And that Sergeant didn’t KNOW that she had a boyfriend? Again, perhaps HE should have shown a wee tiny bit of SELF CONTROL. Now, what she did was not right, but it does take TWO to tango. He had either just fallen off the turnip truck or he knew the risks before he dipped his wick into the well. Either way, it is just as much his fault as her’s.
3. I was at Fort Campbell and a sweet little thing filed sexual harassment charges on all the E5s in the platoon except me (7 or 8). What I thought funny was, I was the one that was always telling her what I did with hookers while i was in korea! She was on her second divorce.
Ah, now we come to the real crux of the angst. YOU are a whoremonger, therefore all men are whoremongers, and all women should live in fear. And HER being on her second divorce is pertainent how????? Or is it just that you object to women telling misogynistic morons, like you, where to go?
4. Men are assumed to have a problem with women. Women use this against men who are in charge of them. IE = I can chew a male soldiers ass for F ing up, but if I treat a female soldier the same as I would a male, I risk sexual harassment charges.
May I suggest that perhaps YOU are particularly sensitive to this because, well, because the SHOE FITS??
5. I was in Bosnia. I have a bad knee and was lifting in the gym for PT. A “female” soldier was lifting, doing wrist curls with the smallest weight she could find. After I did my benches and shoulder work, I saw she was STILL doing wrist curls. For over half an hour! She said she had hurt her ankle. OK! FINE! I went over and leaned down to her ear and told her she should exercise other areas, like her arms, for push ups. Three hours later and I’m explaining all this because she has made the statement that I have a problem with women in the army.
Might I suggest, based on your entry, that it was NOT what you said, but rather HOW you said it? I know that is a bit subtle for you, but worth exploring. The fact that YOU felt SUPERIOR enought to “lean down and whisper” ANYTHING shows that it was YOU
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November 13th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Let me address some of your issues HERE. I’m not sure my limited intelligence can handle it, but I’ll try.
1. Men DO RAPE. Is this news? Not ALL men!
2. It is NOT his fault. I don’t believe anything even happened. If it did, he was MUCH faster than me. But he was accused BY HER. To explan to her boyfriend why she was up there. I hope it haunts her the rest of her days.
3. Second divorce is pertainent in that she was bitter. IF you had followed the story, (you didn’t) you would have seen that she and I often spoke and that I was the ONLY Sergeant that did NOT receive a complant.
Misogynistic? I happen to like most women. Not all. Some are just Haters.
Maby you know a few.
I forgot about the “whoremonger” thing. Why YES. I am a whoremonger! I put my pipe in the PROPER and WILLING receptacles! I do not rape. I rent! Which is much cheaper than buying. I avoid all that divorce crap and the screaming and name calling. Like we see from you. You are old enough to be more intelligent than that, by the way.
I am sensitive to the issue because I spent 20 years watching women do that crap. I survived it. Which should tell an intelligent person that the shoe did not fit me. (whoremonger—remember) Right hole(s) on rented partner. NEVER with a “uniformed service member”.
“The fact that YOU felt SUPERIOR enough to “lean down and whisper” ANYTHING shows that it was YOU”
My answer, you ready for this? She was sitting down. ok? That is why I Leaned down. Whisper? I didn’t what to embarrass her in front of the other “troops”. Call me crazy! If I had to do it over again, knowing what I do now, I would have screamed at her so there would have been witnesses.
The way you think is the reason women should not serve along side men.
I want women to serve! But the two sexes together can not be trusted. They use each other.
But not me, cause I’m a whoremonger. I’m proud of it too! Like you said; right hole of a willing partner. Don’t get more willing than renting!
Never get involved with women wearing the same uniform as yourself. A good rule, that should be taught. Sadly, that would not be (PC).
I’m not Superior to women—I’m DIFFERENT from women. I don’t know any men that thinks they are superior. All of them know they are different.
Men and women, opps let be put you first, women and men are not equal. Never have been—never will be.
You said your superior to me mentally. YOUR the one looking for one to be better than the other. I’m just a simple whoremonger, renting willing holes. Not raping. Rape is about power you know—not sex. If women could rape, I’m sure there are many who would. Oh wait, there are those teachers having sex with underage boys. But that is another story—about women and power.
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6:56 pm on November 13th, 2009 26
who should NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE MILITARY. It was, quite frankly, none of your business what she was doing.
As for your assertion that it is the men’s problem—your wrong. Each person is responsible for their own safety. Only an idiot sleeps with the window unlocked on a base with a shortage of women. Stupid!
My point exactly. According to YOU women must live in FEAR because men are such weak-minded animals that they can’t control their base needs. Thank you for that touch of enlightenment.
While I’m at it, women need to learn how to “put the seat down”.
I don’t bitchhh about lifting it up.
Really!?? You appear to be bitching about everything else. And the only reason YOU would have to lift the seat in the first place is because you couldn’t avoid pissing on the seat.
If you think your equal then act like your equal.
Oh, with all due respect Sir, we are NOT equals. I am eminently more intelligent than you. Do not insult me by even suggesting that you are MY equal.
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7:40 pm on November 13th, 2009 27
Well said Woman. Well said. And with all the emotion that I would expect form a woman.
You failed to address ANY of my first hand experience.
The issue of “fear”. Fear is what an “intelligent” person has. Based on experience and understanding. You lump all men together into one hateful being.
If your emotions allowed you to notice, (they didn’t) there was some women that I enjoyed hanging out with.
Back to “fear”; all intelligent creatures KNOW that something, somewhere, sometime is going to come after them. I know that, which is why I never sleep in an unSecure room. I, as a man, KNOW that there is evil out there and I must take care of myself. YOU only know “men” are evil.
I know that evil comes in all shapes and sizes and sexes. I prepare. I don’t blame others or accuse an entire sex of being evil, as you do. I am a very “verticlly-challenged” man and like most women, easily overpowered physically.
I don’t expect (like you) for others to protect me. I have a weapon in my car (9mm) and a 40cal by the bed. I don’t bitchh about how the world is (men for you) out of control. I KNOW the world is out of control and I “prepare” for it.
I lift the seat because women like me to do so. To bad they can’t treat me as I do them.
Women should only live in fear if they are not prepaired. Women should not be stupid when living on the first floor ANYWHERE and leave the windows unlocked.
According to you, I’m not your mental equal, but I do lock my windows and doors.
So I’m way smarter than THAT woman.
As to it not being my business what she was doing—-which SHE.
Your emotions took over and you were not CLEAR as to which she.
The one that got raped? It became my business when I had to stand in a formation on sat morning while that idiot walked thru our ranks of only men accused for no reason then we had a penis.
The one in Bosnia? As an NCO, it is my JOB to instructe soldiers. Thanks for proving my point on that one.
The one in the barracks that killed a young NCO’s career? Again, my JOB as a guard.
In closing, thanks for proving my point here. Now, before you start ranting in anger about how much more intelligent you are than me, do yourself a favor and take a
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November 13th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
You failed to address ANY of my first hand experience.
Interesting. I believe I addressed ALL of your so-called “First hand” experiences.
The issue of “fear”. Fear is what an “intelligent” person has. Based on experience and understanding. You lump all men together into one hateful being.
No, sir, I did not, YOU did. Here is the exact quote where YOU lumped all men together:
Women need to protect THEMSELVES! Rape happens EVERYWHERE!
As for this: If your emotions allowed you to notice, (they didn’t) there was some women that I enjoyed hanging out with.
I’m sure you do enjoy the company of women, so long as they don’t get uppity.
I, as a man, KNOW that there is evil out there and I must take care of myself. YOU only know “men” are evil.
There you go again, telling this simple-minded woman what she is thinking. I do believe it was YOU who professed that rape happens everywhere, I presume that means that the male gender is perpetrating the event? I believe it is YOU who is cautioning me, a simple-minded woman, to be careful, because men can’t be trusted? I actually know better. I KNOW that bad things happen to those who are not vigilent. I KNOW that the percentage of men who would do something that heinous, is relatively small. YOU are the one who is saying otherwise.
I know that evil comes in all shapes and sizes and sexes. I prepare. I don’t blame others or accuse an entire sex of being evil, as you do.
At the risk of repeating myself, YOU are the one who said it, not me.
As to it not being my business what she was doing—-which SHE.
Your emotions took over and you were not CLEAR as to which she.
Well, allow me to explain the proper use and translation of pronouns. Here is the exchange in question:
5. I was in Bosnia. I have a bad knee and was lifting in the gym for PT. A “female” soldier was lifting, doing wrist curls with the smallest weight she could find. After I did my benches and shoulder work, I saw she was STILL doing wrist curls. For over half an hour! She said she had hurt her ankle. OK! FINE! I went over and leaned down to her ear and told her she should exercise other areas, like her arms, for push ups. Three hours later and I’m explaining all this because she has made the statement that I have a problem with women in the army.
Might I suggest, based on your entry, that it was NOT what you said, but rather HOW you said it? I know that is a bit subtle for you, but worth exploring. The fact that YOU felt SUPERIOR enought to “lean down and whisper” ANYTHING shows that it was YOU who should NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE MILITARY. It was, quite frankly, none of your business what she was doing.
A pronoun, such as the word “she” in the above exchange, indicates a person of the female sex. Now, once the female is identified, “A “female” soldier” one no longer need refer to said individual as “A “female” soldier” again, rather one may refer to said individual as “she.” Should “A “female” soldier” be the ONLY female mentioned in the dialog, “she” is a grammatically accurate method by which to refer to her.
Does that clear things up for you?
The one in Bosnia? As an NCO, it is my JOB to instructe soldiers. Thanks for proving my point on that one.
And THAT includes PT in the gym? Ah, I don’t think so. Her PT was none of your business, unless NCOs are in charge of PT.
Furthermore, IF it WAS your responsibility, which I highly doubt, what were you doing “whispering in her ear.”?? Did you make it a habit of putting your mouth that close to all the soldiers’ ears? If so, you probably should have been whispered to by YOUR commanding officer.
The one in the barracks that killed a young NCO’s career? Again, my JOB as a guard.
As the barracks’ guard, wasn’t it your job to keep the woman out, unless she (“she” in this case is refering to the woman who “killed” the young NCO’S career)had official business being there. Did she have official business being there? Was it not your job, as the guard, to see to it that unauthorized personnel were not admitted? So, what you are saying is that, by failing to do your job, a young NCO’s career was ruined.
Now, before you start ranting in anger….
And just to clarify, I was not the one ranting, you were. Although I do not expect you to comprehend that.
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9:23 pm on November 13th, 2009 28
Your lack of understanding is truely amazing.
I thought you might have some experience with the military. It is obvious that you do not.
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November 13th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
I’m an active little whoremonger and she just arrived.
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November 13th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
I was asking a legitimate question: Okay, so I have heard a lot of sniped against women in the military, followed by the typical “yuk,yuk,yuk” but as yet noone has enlightened me as to the problems/pain of having woment in the military. Am I to assume this is the reverse of penis envy?
So far, my question has not been answered. All I have heard so far is a whole lot of anecdotal (based on personal observation, case study reports, or random investigations rather than systematic scientific evaluation: anecdotal evidence)narrative. I am not nearly as swayed by anecdotal evidence. I am much more interesting in what really is, not what one person’s experience is.
I am aware that often times people tend to create their personal circumstances. Whether that is the situation with you or not, I do not know. I do not know you. Based on what you have relayed, however, I would have to wonder how much of what you have given as reasons for women not being in the military were actually situations you put yourself into.
Regardless, anecdotal evidence is the least reliable of the type of evidence available. That said, I am still waiting for an answer to my question.
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November 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Good Morning.
Since you have done nothing except call me a lier, question my twenty years of service, question my motives and basicly insinuate that I am of such low intelligence as to be unable to understand anything, I do not believe anyone else will try to explain anything to you.
You simply do not want to hear it.
You purpose here is to pick a fight.
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10:15 pm on November 13th, 2009 29
did anyone ever hear that joke about arguing on the internet??
I forgot it really, but the punch line had something to do with the Special Olympics.
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November 14th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Yep it isn’t smart. If I had known the only thing she wanted was an argument, I would never have answered.
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