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By GI Korea on August 24th, 2009 at 7:47 am

US Army Deserter Joshua Key Still Awaits Refugee Status Decision In Canada

ROK Drop certified useful idiot Joshua Key had a hearing earlier this summer in regards to his refugee status:

A war deserter from the U.S. who fled to Canada was visibly tense Wednesday as he made his case for asylum for a second time, arguing he will face unfair prosecution if sent back to the United States.

Joshua Key told an Immigration and Refugee Board hearing in Toronto that what he was being asked to do in Iraq was “immoral” and it made him question the war he once supported.

“To me it was morally wrong what I was doing to Iraqi civilians,” Key told the board member hearing his case. “It very much plays on me, it still plays on me.”

Last July, Canada’s refugee board was ordered to take another look at Key’s case after initially denying him asylum. The Federal Court found the board made mistakes in turning down Key’s claim.  [Yahoo Canada]

The court has yet to issue a ruling from what I have found on the Internet on whether or not to deport him.  What I found interesting reading through articles on the Internet is that the board had no one presenting evidence against Joshua Key.  All this Canadian judge has to do is Google Joshua Key and my posting exposing his lies shows up right underneath his Wikipedia article and official website.  My postings on Key rank so high that his supporters have resorted to attacking me on the Wikipedia page.

What else I found interesting is that his book that is full of lies he is now using as an excuse that he will be treated harshly during a US court martial because of it.  You can also see from this interview that Key’s wife Brandi left him and took her four kids with her back to the US:

It didn’t take long, but Key already has a new finace and kid in Canada now.  His new woman might want to read about all the lies her new fiance has been saying over the years.  Then again if she is a left wing loon like the type Key has been hanging around with in Canada she probably could care less about the lies because these people believe the ends justifies the means.

Seriously do you Canadians want to have a guy like this in your country?  This guy is such a disgrace that you all may be doing us Yanks a favor by keeping him.

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  • Baba O'Riley
    8:58 am on August 24th, 2009 1

    Although I never supported the Bush administration and the Iraq War, I’ve never been a fan of deserting soldiers. Glad to know that people are out there to clear up the truth about this dishonest deserter.

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    Hamilton
    August 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    American Deserters, Diluting the Canadian gene pool since 1969.

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    gerry
    August 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Need to go back further than that. I know running to Canada was popularly spoken of in my town (In Massachusetts) in 1966.( If you weren’t 4F, or couldn’t get a colledge deferment or join the Guard.) The waiting list at the local teachers collage was enormous. ( guess what many of them thought and taught about the war in Vietnam?)

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  • canadian ranger vet
    4:56 pm on August 24th, 2009 2

    It seems this story keeps dragging it’s ass in the Canadian as well as the world press…. Myself , being retired US army and being Canadian find this young man’s actions questionable…. I have no issue with people who do not to participate in a war or combat if they feel it’s not just.. but desertion.. well.. that paints a great picture of this man’s character..
    It seems the US always gets the best deal when it comes down to desert/dodger to Canadians who serve in the US armed forces..some 25,000 deserters/dodgers went to Canada during Vietnam and some 50,000 Canadian went to the US to serve… not sure of the stats exactly… but I think they are pretty close..
    Generally I dont think Canadian think to much of keys.. considering there are Canadian boys getting posted to Afgahnistan and dying in the fight against terror.. should be interesting to see how this plays out..
    I think he should be shot with a ball of his own shit..

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  • Anonymous
    10:12 pm on August 24th, 2009 3

    Josh’s actions are a disgrace to himself and his country or what was once his country. I am very disappointed in his actions. I believe he should be sent to the US to stand trial for his crimes just as any other criminal would have to. His actions are not suprising and do show his true character, but I am appalled at so many who would believe his blatant lies that begin with his childhood stories, reason for desertion and fabrication of his involvement in the war. There seem to be many in Canada that believe what he is saying and use this info to promote their own cause when if they did a little research, like this site has done on his military past, they would see that he is a pawn and being used by others. Unfortunately his actions have cost many lives and he should have to answer for that. This site documents well some of his inaccuracies such as his involvement and so-called eye witness accounts. He is clearly saying what he needs to in order to help his chances of staying in Canada. His actions do not bring truth to the situation but further promote anti US feelings from others. He is in Canada of his own accord and did not leave the miltary because of his moral objections to the war but for other reasons. If you listen to him speak it is obvious he is not smart enough to know of what he speaks on his own. Clearly others are pulling his strings and using them for their own agenda. Shame on him for being so ignorant and shame on them for knowingly doing this. As much as it irritates me it is not suprising and he is ultimately to blame. He should absolutely be sent to the US and tried as any criminal would be. He expects people to feel sorry for him when he knew what he was signing up for and admittingly participated in some of what he is claiming. He is a disgrace to the US and I am almost equally appalled at the Canadians who would assist him or anyone who would beleive his lies. I would love to see an American newstation interview him when he does not have his co-author or Jeffrey House around to tell him how to think.

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    Songtan1
    August 25th, 2009 at 5:52 am

    Well said…I can add nothing else…

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  • Teadrinker
    11:39 pm on August 24th, 2009 4

    He’s probably done more harm than good. Stories like this divert attention away from what mercenary groups like Blackwater are really doing in Iraq and why they are there. Did you know there are more of those guys in Iraq than American soldiers?

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    Jeff
    August 25th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Right you betcha…I’d like to see some up to date data and links. It depends on how you count them and when….call me a skeptic without facts to back it up.

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    gerry
    August 25th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Ho, hum. US troops do not provide security for Iraqi government. So the Iraqis hire them. The US State Dept has used them in the past to protect their own offices as well as NGOs. They are security guards. And yes, they are hired for their services. Mostly protection. 10s of thousands of them have been hired and done their job. One incident and they are “hired mercenaries”, as if there job is to kill the local populace. Bad rap.

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    junior
    September 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 am

    Do you recall why we have fewer soldiers now for such duties- and do you want the average GI Joe pulling that type of duty?

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    GI Korea
    September 2nd, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    There are not more Blackwater contractors than US soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan. There are more contractors in general than soldiers:

    The Pentagon’s civilian contractor work force in Afghanistan outnumbers the deployment of uniformed U.S. soldiers, with contractors accounting for 57 percent of Defense Department personnel there, according to a new report by the Congressional Research Service.

    The reliance on a civilian work force rather than American military personnel represents “the highest recorded percentage of contractors used by DOD in any conflict in the history of the United States,” concludes the report, which was obtained by the Federation of American Scientists.

    The report is based on the Pentagon’s surveys of contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan. Overall, as of March 31, 2009, the Defense Department employed more than 240,000 contractors in the two war zones, compared with approximately 282,000 uniformed soldiers.

    The CIA has been a recent target of criticism for its heavy use of contractors. Firms like Blackwater, now known as Xe Services, have come under harsh public scrutiny for their security work in Iraq for the State Department.

    But the bulk of civilian contractors are engaged in noncontroversial, noncombat-related tasks, such as construction and maintenance. Defense officials point out that using contractors for menial tasks frees up much-needed soldiers for combat operations, and, when managed properly, it can be cheaper.
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112482313

    If you are going to make such a statement it is best to leave a link because here at the ROK Drop the commenters are to smart to accept unsubstantiated statements at face value.

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  • JohnT
    3:22 am on August 25th, 2009 5

    There are enough Korean (gyopos and Korean nationals) draft dodgers in Canada already. Canada should kick this guys ass accross the boarder.

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    gerry
    August 25th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Please expound on this subject. Its the first I’ve heard of it. Any facts to back it up?

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    USinKorea
    August 25th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Korea has mandatory military service. Some people go abroad for a variety of reasons, and they decide whatever they have going on is more important than reporting back home to do the soldier gig. For example, professional athletes who make it in foreign leagues. People like Park Chang-Ho.

    If I remember correctly, Park and some other quality players making their way in the Japanese or American minor leagues were given a presidential exemption from military service because the Korean national team won some big international tournament one year.

    Another type that avoids military service by being abroad are those who have dual citizenship by way of birth. When they reach adult age, they have to pick which they’ll keep, and there have been a couple of widely publicized examples of famous young Koreans picking American citizenship to avoid military service – or so the Korean media often takes it.

    http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/12/28/korea-three-singers-and-military-service/

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    USinKorea
    August 25th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    I missed part of what I was going to say — The military exemption of the baseball team at the time seemed to be more about not retarding the development of those who had a shot of making it into the American big leagues – which was something that made Korean society proud. Park had been debating when to do his military service and at times seemed to use it as a way to pressure the Dodgers to keep him in the big leagues. As I remember it, there was a lot of fretting in Korea about what to do — and unlike most of the other times someone famous got out of military service, the society seemed to accept and agree with Park’s being waived…

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    USinKorea
    August 25th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Crap. Missed another idea I was going to mention:

    The Atlanta Braves have a minor league team close to where I live. When we first came back to Georgia, a Korean relief pitcher was on the team and we talked to him. A year or so later, he was arrested as he returned to Korea because he had failed to report for his military service…

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    USinKorea
    September 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Here is a recent story on this issue:
    Dual Citizen Caught for Dodging Tour of Duty
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/09/113_51148.html

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  • Jeff
    9:57 am on August 25th, 2009 6

    Isnt he supposed to be from Oklahoma? Listen to him do a Canadian accent..

    Sorry Canada, you don’t need our trash.

    any idea of what the outcome of his hearing was?

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