Comments on: Another Soldier Charged In King Club Bar Brawl http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/ Korea From North to South Sat, 26 May 2012 21:32:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: junior http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364899 junior Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:52:51 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364899 Funny- but the combat units I served in had a pretty fair mix of well to do, and not so well to do junior enlisted men. If you take a look at the demographics of the combat service support units (REMFs) versus the combat units- they don't match up, though. When soldiers act like like sh1theads, it's usually because their leadership tolerates it. I don't blame the gang bang mo-fos for being turds- I blame their leadership for being spineless cowards who refuse to take a stand. As for the dreaded neo-Nazis- , I have not been able to find where they hang out, congregate, and do their thing on base. Chances are, wherever they are, they are underground- not saying they aren't there, but they don't dare show their true colors, rebel flags, etc... The other gangs wear their colors publicly and live the gangsta dream on the government's time and dime. Funny- but the combat units I served in had a pretty fair mix of well to do, and not so well to do junior enlisted men. If you take a look at the demographics of the combat service support units (REMFs) versus the combat units- they don't match up, though.

When soldiers act like like sh1theads, it's usually because their leadership tolerates it. I don't blame the gang bang mo-fos for being turds- I blame their leadership for being spineless cowards who refuse to take a stand.

As for the dreaded neo-Nazis- , I have not been able to find where they hang out, congregate, and do their thing on base. Chances are, wherever they are, they are underground- not saying they aren't there, but they don't dare show their true colors, rebel flags, etc… The other gangs wear their colors publicly and live the gangsta dream on the government's time and dime.

]]> By: JoeC http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364895 JoeC Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:21:32 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364895 Since you mentioned neo-Nazi, Stars and Stripes also ran a series of articles a couple months ago about neo-Nazi and extremist hate group elements in the military. <a href="http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?article=63650" rel="nofollow">http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?article=63650</a> However, no serious reports yet of their association with crimes or violence in the military. Since you mentioned neo-Nazi, Stars and Stripes also ran a series of articles a couple months ago about neo-Nazi and extremist hate group elements in the military.

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?article=63650

However, no serious reports yet of their association with crimes or violence in the military.

]]> By: Leon LaPorte http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364889 Leon LaPorte Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:23:09 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364889 In the Second Punic War the legions of the republic were mainly manned by the middle class on up (land owners, etc). Of course after the battle of Cannae, they began to loosen standards a bit. /ok, you asked for one. Admittedly, you made your point. In the Second Punic War the legions of the republic were mainly manned by the middle class on up (land owners, etc). Of course after the battle of Cannae, they began to loosen standards a bit.

/ok, you asked for one. Admittedly, you made your point.

]]> By: Teadrinker http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364883 Teadrinker Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:58:23 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364883 Name me one war that was fought by middle-aged privileged men only. Fact is, kids, especially poor ones, have been the the backbone of every military force since the beginning of history. I don't know how widespread it is, but the real problem is that, apparently, some gang members are joining specifically so they can learn certain things that can be useful to them as criminals. It's not a coincidence that some of the most successful gangs follow a military-like hierarchy. Clearly, people need to be better screened. Just look at the problems we had in the Canadian military in the 90's. A few Canadians soldiers were arrested for torturing prisoners to death in Somalia...Someone up the ranks didn't seem to mind that they were associated to a neo-Nazi before sending them to Somalia. Name me one war that was fought by middle-aged privileged men only. Fact is, kids, especially poor ones, have been the the backbone of every military force since the beginning of history.

I don't know how widespread it is, but the real problem is that, apparently, some gang members are joining specifically so they can learn certain things that can be useful to them as criminals. It's not a coincidence that some of the most successful gangs follow a military-like hierarchy. Clearly, people need to be better screened.

Just look at the problems we had in the Canadian military in the 90's. A few Canadians soldiers were arrested for torturing prisoners to death in Somalia…Someone up the ranks didn't seem to mind that they were associated to a neo-Nazi before sending them to Somalia.

]]> By: junior http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364854 junior Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:37:49 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364854 Wow- Are you me- or am I, you? Exactly what I have been saying for years. Too bad no one is listening/applying it. We wouldn't want any of those poor dears to be OFFENDED and file an EO complaint! Wow- Are you me- or am I, you?

Exactly what I have been saying for years. Too bad no one is listening/applying it. We wouldn't want any of those poor dears to be OFFENDED and file an EO complaint!

]]> By: Pete http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364853 Pete Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:34:44 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364853 I believe the military is getting exactly what they are looking for in the recruitment adds and where they are placing their recruitment dollars. I believe the military is getting exactly what they are looking for in the recruitment adds and where they are placing their recruitment dollars.

]]> By: ChickenHead http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364846 ChickenHead Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:46:56 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364846 Lemmy, There isn't anything wrong with hiring "worthless, vermin of the earth, pond scum youth from the inner cities"... ...it's that the worthlessness, verminity and scumminess is allowed, and even encouraged, via "tolerance" and "diversity". The military is one of the few institutions in a position to effectively socialize the counter-social... and it is to our country's benefit for the military to bring in a percentage of vermin with the hopes that education, training and a culture of personal discipline will integrate them to mainstream American culture... the effects of which can make their way back to the inner cities. Of course this isn't being done. Lemmy,

There isn't anything wrong with hiring "worthless, vermin of the earth, pond scum youth from the inner cities"…

…it's that the worthlessness, verminity and scumminess is allowed, and even encouraged, via "tolerance" and "diversity".

The military is one of the few institutions in a position to effectively socialize the counter-social… and it is to our country's benefit for the military to bring in a percentage of vermin with the hopes that education, training and a culture of personal discipline will integrate them to mainstream American culture… the effects of which can make their way back to the inner cities.

Of course this isn't being done.

]]> By: Lemmy http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364813 Lemmy Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:34:44 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364813 We don't have to watch T.V. to know we have a gang problem in the ranks. That's what you get when you hire worthless, vermin of the earth, pond scum youth from the inner cities of what use to be the United States of America. We don't have to watch T.V. to know we have a gang problem in the ranks. That's what you get when you hire worthless, vermin of the earth, pond scum youth from the inner cities of what use to be the United States of America.

]]> By: Teadrinker http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/06/another-soldier-charged-in-king-club-bar-brawl/comment-page-1/#comment-364745 Teadrinker Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:32:20 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16286#comment-364745 If you believe anything on the History Channel, you've got a serious gang problem in your military. If you believe anything on the History Channel, you've got a serious gang problem in your military.

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