Comments on: Is It Time for the ROK Military to Professionalize Their Force? http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/10/is-it-time-for-the-rok-military-to-professionalize-their-force/ Korea From North to South Sat, 26 May 2012 21:32:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Retired GI http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/10/is-it-time-for-the-rok-military-to-professionalize-their-force/comment-page-1/#comment-381829 Retired GI Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:52:17 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16353#comment-381829 I'll answer that question. The French are not STILL doing that job. So the answer is No. The Americans ARE still serving in Korea. They are STILL being separated from their wives and kids to protect a small country that many never heard of before putting on a Uniform. "how long do you want to MILK it?" Answer: Untill we stop having to act as a trip wire for Korea! When Korea no longer needs help. When Korea can defend itself. When American Soldiers are no longer separated from their Familys to serve in an ungreatful little country of no importance. When we are no longer (IN) Korea, doing the Job Koreans SHOULD do for themselves, is when we will stop "milking it". As for the service of ROK troops in Vietnam---Thank you for the service! I heard and read nothing but good things about the ROK Army in Vietnam. Seriously, Glad the ROK was there. What are you doing TODAY for the war on Terriorism? I hear the Latrines the ROK Army built in Iraq are first class. I'll answer that question.

The French are not STILL doing that job. So the answer is No.

The Americans ARE still serving in Korea. They are STILL being separated from their wives and kids to protect a small country that many never heard of before putting on a Uniform.

"how long do you want to MILK it?"

Answer: Untill we stop having to act as a trip wire for Korea!

When Korea no longer needs help.

When Korea can defend itself.

When American Soldiers are no longer separated from their Familys to serve in an ungreatful little country of no importance.

When we are no longer (IN) Korea, doing the Job Koreans SHOULD do for themselves, is when we will stop "milking it".

As for the service of ROK troops in Vietnam—Thank you for the service!

I heard and read nothing but good things about the ROK Army in Vietnam.

Seriously, Glad the ROK was there.

What are you doing TODAY for the war on Terriorism? I hear the Latrines the ROK Army built in Iraq are first class.

]]> By: Chris In Dallas http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/10/is-it-time-for-the-rok-military-to-professionalize-their-force/comment-page-1/#comment-381820 Chris In Dallas Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:32:43 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16353#comment-381820 I have some doubts ROK could actually get enough people to join. Years ago, I was watching the Revolutionary War movie "The Patriot" with my nephew Hee Sub. There is a scene right after South Carolina declares independence where men are lining up to join the Army. Hee Sub says to me "Oh, they're drafting!". It took me 20 or so minutes to explain to him they were volunteering and it would be nearly 100 years before America took its first shot at conscription. I don't think he really believed me. I just can't fathom the young Korean males I know signing up to low crawl in the mud with the possibility of getting shot at for any amount of money and benefits. Maybe they could continue drafting but offer the extra goodies to those who sign back up after their term is up. It would be a slow method, but it may get folks used to the concept. I have some doubts ROK could actually get enough people to join. Years ago, I was watching the Revolutionary War movie "The Patriot" with my nephew Hee Sub. There is a scene right after South Carolina declares independence where men are lining up to join the Army. Hee Sub says to me "Oh, they're drafting!". It took me 20 or so minutes to explain to him they were volunteering and it would be nearly 100 years before America took its first shot at conscription. I don't think he really believed me.

I just can't fathom the young Korean males I know signing up to low crawl in the mud with the possibility of getting shot at for any amount of money and benefits. Maybe they could continue drafting but offer the extra goodies to those who sign back up after their term is up. It would be a slow method, but it may get folks used to the concept.

]]> By: John http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/10/is-it-time-for-the-rok-military-to-professionalize-their-force/comment-page-1/#comment-381769 John Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:45:16 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16353#comment-381769 @Smoothbore As a person of Korean ancestry, I'm grateful of what US did in Korea. BUT, dang, how long do you want to milk it? And let's not forget that ROK rotated a quarter million men through Vietnam with 3 Infantry division during the Vietnam conflict. That's a lot of men and blood spilt for a small country. Let me ask you, are you grateful to the French for helping US establish itself as a republic by kicking out the British? @Smoothbore

As a person of Korean ancestry, I'm grateful of what US did in Korea.

BUT, dang, how long do you want to milk it? And let's not forget that ROK rotated a quarter million men through Vietnam with 3 Infantry division during the Vietnam conflict. That's a lot of men and blood spilt for a small country.

Let me ask you, are you grateful to the French for helping US establish itself as a republic by kicking out the British?

]]> By: Smoothbore http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/10/is-it-time-for-the-rok-military-to-professionalize-their-force/comment-page-1/#comment-365295 Smoothbore Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:48:40 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16353#comment-365295 Conscript everyone like Israel does. This may have the added benefit of eventually allowing the US to get the hell out of an ungrateful korea instead of being nothing more than tripwires. Can you imagine how much MORE korea chicks would whine. If that's at all possible! Conscript everyone like Israel does. This may have the added benefit of eventually allowing the US to get the hell out of an ungrateful korea instead of being nothing more than tripwires.

Can you imagine how much MORE korea chicks would whine. If that's at all possible!

]]> By: LORDOFE2 http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/10/is-it-time-for-the-rok-military-to-professionalize-their-force/comment-page-1/#comment-365262 LORDOFE2 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:57:23 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16353#comment-365262 Think about it. Right now, about 15% of the Male Korean military has had some kind of sexual harassment. Seniors get to enjoy the "kiss of the black rose" as they say, from their juniors. What would happend if you threw women in the mix. Think about it. Right now, about 15% of the Male Korean military has had some kind of sexual harassment. Seniors get to enjoy the "kiss of the black rose" as they say, from their juniors. What would happend if you threw women in the mix.

]]> By: SJ http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/10/is-it-time-for-the-rok-military-to-professionalize-their-force/comment-page-1/#comment-365234 SJ Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:06:56 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16353#comment-365234 I just don't see how South Korea can reach its required manpower levels without conscription given how small its population is to begin with. Certainly professionalization and technological improvement can make up some of the gap, but if the South is preparing for some sort of war and occupation of North Korea, then I don't see how they can build the size of army they'll need for the task without conscription. I just don't see how South Korea can reach its required manpower levels without conscription given how small its population is to begin with. Certainly professionalization and technological improvement can make up some of the gap, but if the South is preparing for some sort of war and occupation of North Korea, then I don't see how they can build the size of army they'll need for the task without conscription.

]]> By: tokyojesusfist http://rokdrop.com/2009/09/10/is-it-time-for-the-rok-military-to-professionalize-their-force/comment-page-1/#comment-365199 tokyojesusfist Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:13:42 +0000 http://rokdrop.com/?p=16353#comment-365199 <blockquote>South Korea is a wealthy and modern country that is for all intents and purposes using forced labor to man their military force.</blockquote> Nothing wrong with that. You might as well say that paying taxes is "theft." My country has mandatory service too. "Conscientious objectors" piss the shit out of me because they never have any good reasons for their objections.

South Korea is a wealthy and modern country that is for all intents and purposes using forced labor to man their military force.

Nothing wrong with that. You might as well say that paying taxes is "theft." My country has mandatory service too.

"Conscientious objectors" piss the shit out of me because they never have any good reasons for their objections.

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