By Via a reader tip comes news of this meeting with local 2ID business owners:
Members of USAG-Red Cloud and Casey chain of command met with members of the Korea Special Tourist Association for their quarterly meeting, Aug. 26, at the Samaul Gumgo building in Dongducheon. The purpose of the meeting was to help KSTA promote good business practices and to reach a mutual understanding and compliance. Members of the chain of command and the KTSA members shared their concern of the happenings within the entertainment district of Warrior Country. Col. Larry ‘Pepper’ Jackson, USAG-RC commander, began the meeting by introducing Lt. Col. Richard Fromm, USAG-Casey commander, to the members and telling them how Fromm will assist the members in any matters they need help with. “The very same support you received from Lt. Col. Donald Meisler, the previous USAG-Casey commander, you will get from Fromm and more,” Jackson said.
Jackson also introduced the Civil Military Operations and spoke on how it important it is for the business owners to keep CMO informed on what is going on in their respective outlets and let them know whenever they are in need of their help. “We have so many resources you can use if you feel there is an issue going on in your business establishment,” Jackson said. “We have CMO, Military Police and Courtesy Patrol all walking around at night.” Jackson stressed the need of teamwork with KSTA members, explaining to them United States Forces Korea has a zero tolerance policy on prostitution and human trafficking and KSTA members need to adhere to the same policy ,in their respected places of business. “This quarter we did not receive any telephone calls from out P&HT hot line number, and we are glad your businesses are placing flyer’s in your outlets so your customers know there is a zero policy within USFK and the Army,” said Watson Wallace Jr., Warrior Country civilian misconduct action specialist [USAG-Red Cloud]
Since there is no phone calls on the P&HT hotline obviously no prostitution is going on then? 
9:24 am on September 28th, 2009 1
This is like the IRS meeting with the Mafia to discuss any tax issues they might have.
10:30 am on September 28th, 2009 2
Col Jackson's picture is in the MCS newspaper more than anyone else. Usually two or three photos each week. I wonder if he plans it that way.
2:06 pm on September 28th, 2009 3
It's more like the US Army attempting to initiate legislation in the House of Lords. They have no business there.
If the command wants to declare these clubs off limits, fine, have at it. The commands' responsibility and jurisdiction stops at the installation access points, period. Lest we forget, Korea is a sovereign country. I believe we fought a war to ensure just that. Let them govern and police themselves.
Look at it another way. The German Luftwaffe maintains an installation on US soil complete with a SOFA (as I recall the only foreign military to have such an agreement since 1812). Do you think they call in the local business owners from the Holloman AFB area and school them on how to conduct their business? Do you think German MP's and CP's roam around downrange, armed, and supplement or supplant US law enforcement officers? What would you think of that?
I'm sure however the German commander could declare a local business off limits to HIS COMMAND if he wished.
(for doubters of the above statement: http://www.holloman.af.mil/library/factsheets/fac…
8:38 pm on September 28th, 2009 4
What isn't mentioned is that Col Jackson told these business owners he doesn't care what they do (ie prostitution/human trafficking). This meeting was for show, with the business owners complaining about soldiers damaging clubs and stealing the juicies.
9:01 am on September 29th, 2009 5
They tried to take a trick photo and not show the empty room. It looks like there were 3 whole people there.
9:50 am on September 29th, 2009 6
Nice catch.
11:55 am on September 29th, 2009 7
"They tried to take a trick photo and not show the empty room. It looks like there were 3 whole people there."
…and only one of the three even comes close to fitting the profile of a juicy club owner.
One funny thing about making a show of trying to "help KSTA promote good business practices and to reach a mutual understanding and compliance"…
If a club serves a drink to someone underage, they are quickly put off-limits. If a club supplies a juicy to someone who is married, there is no problem.
"Leadership" will walk right past servicemembers they know to be married but will go out of their way to hassle an "underage" drinker acting responsibly.
Maybe months of daily divorce-related intrigue doesn't affect Readiness as much as a Saturday morning hangover for someone 20 yeas and 11 months old.
Things like Conspiracy to Philander and watching the juicy drain baby's college fund are defended with statements such as, "can't get involved in personal lives" and "can't control Korean business".
If victimless underage drinking or harmless curfew violations come up, "leadership" gets all protective of their GIs.
This attitude toward the juicy racket comes from the top… and it nullifies all the "family"-this and "morality"-that which is constantly pushed on everyone to generate some Look How Great We Are paperwork.
9:03 pm on September 29th, 2009 8
Jackson is holding up three fingers and looks like a frown is on his face. Headline should read: "Three US Army personnel (Jackson, Fromm, and translator) meet with bar owner plus son and daughter"
11:32 pm on September 29th, 2009 9
What the Mysterious Three Finger Gesture Actually Means
"Rock. Scissors. PAPER. Well. You tied with your left hand but you definitely have rock in your right, ajushi. Gosh, you win. You can all stay open for another year."
"So, a lot of people say it's gaay to hold a cigarette like this… but I don't really think so. It's cultured."
"This sign represents USFK's relationship with club owners. The index and middle fingers represent the peace we have with our Good Neighbors. The thumb represents what we sit on when there is any call to investigate our Good Neighbors."
"In American Sign Language, this means 'awkward'. If you see me do this, it means it is not a good time to hand me an envelope full of cash."
"Funk the translator… tryin' to look all Miama Vice and sh!t. In fact, I'm puttin' another finger up just to drive it home."
"You are ooooonce… twiceeeee… three tiiiiimes an ajushi… and I loooooooveeee yoooooooou."
"You can deliver the three white envelopes to the Armed Forces Disciplinary Control Board and I'm sure, in a secret meeting, they will quickly see the need for you to return to on-limits."
"Biitch, I had you beat by the third hole. Don't worry we can cancel some enlisted guy's tee time and you can try again next week."
"I found, when hitchhiking, you get more rides if you indicate you will not only give some head but you will also take it up the rear."
"We have to put three clubs off-limits this week to show we are Doing Something. You decide which ones. Who isn't a member of the Good Neighbor program or the Special Tourist Association?"
"Can someone please get the projector? I want to show you all how to make a really cool bunny shadow on the wall."
"Listen. I put three fingers in your Flip ho and I could spread 'em like this. What kind of skaank you peddlin' in my ville? How many kids that fat biitch got, huh? I want my money back."
"I want you business owners to live long and prosper. O.K. Now show me that Spock thing again."
"This here is my pitching hand. I'll pitch you protection for your business model and you pitch me a glowing review through your Korean military contacts."
"…then the boooger got on my middle finger when I tried to wipe it on my thumb from my index finger and then… say, I'm not boring you all with my story? Where did everybody go?"
"O.K. I'm going to give you three wishes. Let you rip off GIs without interference? Done. Turn our heads to locking up your sexx workers? Done. Have us actively patrol the competition? Done. Wait. We were already doing all that. I'll give you three more wishes."
"Sure, my dancing is stiffer than Michael Jackson… but people say I still have talent."
"Unlimited on-limits for twenty-nine… thirty thousand dollars… thirty thousand… going once… going twice… sold to guy in the front row with the pea green shirt and two lumpy daughters!"
"The last club that didn't make the payment? Well… I asked, 'Wiseguy?' and then I poked him in the eyes like this… then I got my thumb in his nose and I went, 'Nuk nuk nuk.'"
"You Koreans sure do count funny but, see, I'm catching on. Now the ring finger and 'net' is next, right? Or was it all the other way around? Damn, it gonna be hard to count our cash like this."
"What the funk, ajushi? You pointin' a finger gun at me? Well my sh!t's got TWO barrels. Whatdaya think of that?"
"Three hundred. It has got to be three hundred. If you keep barfining for one-fifty on the weekdays, none of us make money. There are a lot of hands to feed over this, you know."
"I was hammered as sh!t at the Good Neighbor meeting last night but I still remember that new Philippine Shoccker y'all showed me. She kept sayin' there wasn't no hole there so I just pushed harder and twisted 'till it finally went someplace. I don't know where. Them Filipinas sure can scream."
"When you buy protection, you GET protection… cuz, yo, ajushi, I be flashin' my sign… the 2ID Loco Dogs… and my thumb to cock the muderfunkin' hammer. Layin' the 9 mil smackdown on any whack dawg tryin' to clown my ville."
"…and then Mr. Hand said, 'Ohhhh, don't put those nice clubs off-limit!' What could I do?"
"This here is the ChickenHead logo… and I better not be seein' it. I don't have a Lt. Davis working for me to solve those problems."
11:34 pm on September 29th, 2009 10
What the Mysterious Three Finger Gesture Actually Means
"Rock. Scissors. PAPER. Well. You tied with your left hand but you definitely have rock in your right, ajushi. Gosh, you win. You can all stay open for another year."
"So, a lot of people say it's gaay to hold a cigarette like this… but I don't really think so. It's cultured."
"This sign represents USFK's relationship with club owners. The index and middle fingers represent the peace we have with our Good Neighbors. The thumb represents what we sit on when there is any call to investigate our Good Neighbors."
"In American Sign Language, this means 'awkward'. If you see me do this, it means it is not a good time to hand me an envelope full of cash."
"Funk the translator… tryin' to look all Miama Vice and sh!t. In fact, I'm puttin' another finger up just to drive it home."
"You are ooooonce… twiceeeee… three tiiiiimes an ajushi… and I loooooooveeee yoooooooou."
"You can deliver the three white envelopes to the Armed Forces Disciplinary Control Board and I'm sure, in a secret meeting, they will quickly see the need for you to return to on-limits."
"Biitch, I had you beat by the third hole. Don't worry we can cancel some enlisted guy's tee time and you can try again next week."
"I found, when hitchhiking, you get more rides if you indicate you will not only give some head but you will also take it up the rear."
"We have to put three clubs off-limits this week to show we are Doing Something. You decide which ones. Who isn't a member of the Good Neighbor program or the Special Tourist Association?"
"Can someone please get the projector? I want to show you all how to make a really cool bunny shadow on the wall."
"Listen. I put three fingers in your Flip ho and I could spread 'em like this. What kind of skaank you peddlin' in my ville? How many kids that fat biitch got, huh? I want my money back."
"I want you business owners to live long and prosper. O.K. Now show me that Spock thing again."
11:35 pm on September 29th, 2009 11
MORE What the Mysterious Three Finger Gesture Actually Means (part 2)
"This here is my pitching hand. I'll pitch you protection for your business model and you pitch me a glowing review through your Korean military contacts."
"…then the boooger got on my middle finger when I tried to wipe it on my thumb from my index finger and then… say, I'm not boring you all with my story? Where did everybody go?"
"O.K. I'm going to give you three wishes. Let you rip off GIs without interference? Done. Turn our heads to locking up your sexx workers? Done. Have us actively patrol the competition? Done. Wait. We were already doing all that. I'll give you three more wishes."
"Sure, my dancing is stiffer than Michael Jackson… but people say I still have talent."
"Unlimited on-limits for twenty-nine… thirty thousand dollars… thirty thousand… going once… going twice… sold to guy in the front row with the pea green shirt and two lumpy daughters!"
"The last club that didn't make the payment? Well… I asked, 'Wiseguy?' and then I poked him in the eyes like this… then I got my thumb in his nose and I went, 'Nuk nuk nuk.'"
"You Koreans sure do count funny but, see, I'm catching on. Now the ring finger and 'net' is next, right? Or was it all the other way around? Damn, it gonna be hard to count our cash like this."
"What the funk, ajushi? You pointin' a finger gun at me? Well my sh!t's got TWO barrels. Whatdaya think of that?"
"Three hundred. It has got to be three hundred. If you keep barfining for one-fifty on the weekdays, none of us make money. There are a lot of hands to feed over this, you know."
"I was hammered as sh!t at the Good Neighbor meeting last night but I still remember that new Philippine Shoccker y'all showed me. She kept sayin' there wasn't no hole there so I just pushed harder and twisted 'till it finally went someplace. I don't know where. Them Filipinas sure can scream."
"When you buy protection, you GET protection… cuz, yo, ajushi, I be flashin' my sign… the 2ID Loco Dogs… and my thumb to cock the muderfunkin' hammer. Layin' the 9 mil smackdown on any whack dawg tryin' to clown my ville."
"…and then Mr. Hand said, 'Ohhhh, don't put those nice clubs off-limit!' What could I do?"
"This here is the ChickenHead logo… and I better not be seein' it. I don't have a Lt. Davis working for me to solve those problems."
11:35 pm on September 29th, 2009 12
MORE What the Mysterious Three Finger Gesture Actually Means (part 2)
"This here is my pitching hand. I'll pitch you protection for your business model and you pitch me a glowing review through your Korean military contacts."
"…then the boooger got on my middle finger when I tried to wipe it on my thumb from my index finger and then… say, I'm not boring you all with my story? Where did everybody go?"
"O.K. I'm going to give you three wishes. Let you rip off GIs without interference? Done. Turn our heads to locking up your sexx workers? Done. Have us actively patrol the competition? Done. Wait. We were already doing all that. I'll give you three more wishes."
"Sure, my dancing is stiffer than Michael Jackson… but people say I still have talent."
"Unlimited on-limits for twenty-nine… thirty thousand dollars… thirty thousand… going once… going twice… sold to guy in the front row with the pea green shirt and two lumpy daughters!"
"The last club that didn't make the payment? Well… I asked, 'Wiseguy?' and then I poked him in the eyes like this… then I got my thumb in his nose and I went, 'Nuk nuk nuk.'"
"You Koreans sure do count funny but, see, I'm catching on. Now the ring finger and 'net' is next, right? Or was it all the other way around? Damn, it gonna be hard to count our cash like this."
11:36 pm on September 29th, 2009 13
Part 3
"What the funk, ajushi? You pointin' a finger gun at me? Well my sh!t's got TWO barrels. Whatdaya think of that?"
"Three hundred. It has got to be three hundred. If you keep barfining for one-fifty on the weekdays, none of us make money. There are a lot of hands to feed over this, you know."
"I was hammered as sh!t at the Good Neighbor meeting last night but I still remember that new Philippine Shoccker y'all showed me. She kept sayin' there wasn't no hole there so I just pushed harder and twisted 'till it finally went someplace. I don't know where. Them Filipinas sure can scream."
"When you buy protection, you GET protection… cuz, yo, ajushi, I be flashin' my sign… the 2ID Loco Dogs… and my thumb to cock the muderfunkin' hammer. Layin' the 9 mil smackdown on any whack dawg tryin' to clown my ville."
"…and then Mr. Hand said, 'Ohhhh, don't put those nice clubs off-limit!' What could I do?"
11:36 pm on September 29th, 2009 14
Part 3
"What the funk, ajushi? You pointin' a finger gun at me? Well my sh!t's got TWO barrels. Whatdaya think of that?"
"Three hundred. It has got to be three hundred. If you keep barfining for one-fifty on the weekdays, none of us make money. There are a lot of hands to feed over this, you know."
"I was hammered as sh!t at the Good Neighbor meeting last night but I still remember that new Philippine Shoccker y'all showed me. She kept sayin' there wasn't no hole there so I just pushed harder and twisted 'till it finally went someplace. I don't know where. Them Filipinas sure can scream."
"When you buy protection, you GET protection… cuz, yo, ajushi, I be flashin' my sign… the 2ID Loco Dogs… and my thumb to cocck the muderfunkin' hammer. Layin' the 9 mil smackdown on any whack dawg tryin' to clown my ville."
"…and then Mr. Hand said, 'Ohhhh, don't put those nice clubs off-limit!' What could I do?"
"This here is the ChickenHead logo… and I better not be seein' it. I don't have a Lt. Davis working for me to solve those problems."
5:35 am on October 1st, 2009 15
The only problem with having to break up posts to trick the spam filter is having your original post come through… along with a few others that were caught up.
Sorry.
Number 7 is all you need to read.