Comments on: General Honore’ Speaks to CGSC Students

By: GI Korea

GI Korea — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:06:54 +0000

He used to say that back in his 2ID days as well but it usually included some additional adjectives that can't be repeated here.

By: GI Korea

GI Korea — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:05:33 +0000

General Honore didn't win many friends in 2ID but yelling I can deal with it was the spur of the moment stuff that bothered me. He showed up at my motorpool and chewed my ass to move all my units bradleys to the fence line so he can see his combat power. So instead of my unit keeping to its training schedule we had to spend the day rearranging the motorpool. To top it off the fenceline was a smaller area to park bradleys thus they were parked very close together which was a safety hazard and the soldiers had to walk to the other side of the motorpool to get things out of the connexes, but hey the general could see his combat power.

The things he used to say about Koreans I didn't much appreciate either.

However, after Katrina that recovery operation needed someone to yell and scream and get people moving which is why I say he was perfect for that job.

By: gerry

gerry — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:48:43 +0000

"You sir, are stuck on stupid" his response to a media question during the Katrina recovery. To me, it will always be his defining moment in history.

I often think of that phrase when I am in disagreement with others.

By: Pete

Pete — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:44:25 +0000

I'm sorry to say but yelling and screaming by General Officers is somewhat common. It seems like LTG Honore was the norm. I do know of General who didn't yell and screem and seem to be more effective.

By: Marcus Ambrose

Marcus Ambrose — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:16:56 +0000

My problem with GEN Honore' in action was that he yelled at everyone and publicly humiliated them, so in the end no one would speak up. For instance, sitting in a staff meeting and he asks the status of a system. There's a Major in the front row that knows the status because I just told him. But that Major won't speak up for fear of getting yelled at, so someone else has to answer the question or it just goes unanswered.

In another incident GEN Honore was on a VTC with DISCOM asking about tank packs. Apparently 2ID blew 4 packs in one weekend. So the DISCOM guy stated basically 'we looked at historic usage plus upcoming events and balanced that with the budget to have the correct stock on-hand, using 4 packs in one weekend was unexpected'. That seems like a reasonable answer, but the yelling, screaming, and berating from GEN Honore that followed was out of line. Gen H's quote was "that's an answer you give Congress. Don't ever give me that answer again." Hmmm, wouldn't some research and readjustment of assumptions have been better than just screaming?

Yelling and screaming has its place for motivation and getting quick action, but the way GEN Honore did it, yelling just hid the truth.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:53:15 +0000

I agree with your assessment of the Ragin Cajun…he was NOT a General Gary Luck that's for sure. I recall his wanting to 'smell BBQ' coming from all the DFACs in the 2 ID area…what horse squeeze. Narcissist for sure.