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By on November 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 am

Bus Racism Incident In Korea Featured In New York Times

The story of the Indian man who was racially slurred while sitting on the bus next to a Korean female friend has now if you can believe it, made it all the way to the pages of the New York Times:

On the evening of July 10, Bonogit Hussain, a 29-year-old Indian man, and Hahn Ji-seon, a female Korean friend, were riding a bus near Seoul when a man in the back began hurling racial and sexist slurs at them.

The situation would be a familiar one to many Korean women who have dated or even — as in Ms. Hahn’s case — simply traveled in the company of a foreign man.

What was different this time, however, was that, once it was reported in the South Korean media, prosecutors sprang into action, charging the man they have identified only as a 31-year-old Mr. Park with contempt, the first time such charges had been applied to an alleged racist offense. Spurred by the case, which is pending in court, rival political parties in Parliament have begun drafting legislation that for the first time would provide a detailed definition of discrimination by race and ethnicity and impose criminal penalties.

For Mr. Hussain, subtle discrimination has been part of daily life for the two and half years he has lived here as a student and then research professor at Sungkonghoe University in Seoul. He says that, even in crowded subways, people tend not sit next to him. In June, he said, he fell asleep on a bus and when it reached the terminal, the driver woke him up by poking him in the thigh with his foot, an extremely offensive gesture in South Korea.  [New York Times via the Marmot's Hole]

Here is the most interesting comment of the entire article which is at the very end:

“Our ethnic homogeneity is a blessing,” said one of the critics, Lee Sung-bok, a bricklayer who said his job was threatened by migrant workers. “If they keep flooding in, who can guarantee our country won’t be torn apart by ethnic war as in Sri Lanka?”

Over at the Marmot’s Hole comments section Robert Koehler does make a good point about how it is incredible that a drunk who makes racist comments at someone with post-colonial hangups on a bus makes the pages of the New York Times.  He also makes an interesting point about how Koreans have legitimate reason for concern about the influx of foreign workers considering what is currently happening in France.

Mr. Hussain

Mr. Hussain

Anyway what I found most interesting about the article is what was left out; like how Mr. Hussain likes to make his own generalizations about white people:

“It was not my first time to be subject to racial abuse. I have had many similar experiences. But this time was serious,” he said. “It wouldn’t have happened to me if I were a white man.”

White people get their fair share of crap in Korea as well to include having comments made to them when sitting next to Korean women.  Granted people of darker skin color get treated worse because of the perception of them being what Koreans call “3D workers” (dirty, dangerous, & difficult jobs), but to say a drunk ajushi wouldn’t have made racist comments about a white person sitting on the bus Mr. Hussain has no evidence to support such a claim.

The moral of the story is that some drunk ajushis are a-holes no matter what skin color you are.

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  • ChickenHead
    5:52 am on November 2nd, 2009 1

    I have noticed something.

    When I consider the people recently who have cried discrimination the loudest, or experienced one social/legal tragedy after another, I found they all have something in common.

    They all give the impression, through their style or action, that they are not interested in making any effort to integrate/conform to social norms in Korea.

    Usually, this manifests itself with strange hair/facial hair and fashion choices. Trying to be "different" or "edgy" just looks weird to many Koreans… and maybe dangerous, too.

    And this is confirmed at the first sign of bad manners or uppity-ness when a problem goes down… a problem that, many times, was brought about, in part, by the subject's appearance and actions to begin with.

    Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Now, are you ready for the money quote?

    "Hussain came to South Korea in early 2007 as a graduate student. Although he majored in history, he soon began to take interest in the country's labor issues. After about a year, he was given an "research professor" title at SungKongHoe University and was tasked with coordinating research on social issues. He chose racism in Asian society as the topic of his paper, which he hopes to complete in the near future."

    My sensor tells me this was a guy LOOKING for "racism in Asian society". I detect the smell of unfocused activism… first labor, now race. And in this situation, research for his paper is almost going to do itself… A+ material here.

    One wonders if SungKongHoe University supports this for publicity… or has their head in their hands wondering how they got into this mess with some uppity third-worlder in an official university position making a national issue about a drunk calling him names. Whaaa!

    Let's look at their website…

    "There is no university, domestically or abroad, that has established a systematic curriculum on NGO studies, except SungKongHoe University. As the pioneer educational institute that emphasizes the role of the third sector including NGOs, NPOs, and other civil organizations in the future, in supervising and counterchecking both the first sector, i.e., the government, and the second sector, i.e., the market and the business entrepreneurs, SKHU has made initiative efforts to cultivate NGO leadership, by providing students with a systematic construction of the philosophy, activities, and prospects of civil society organizations."

    Ho, ho, ho! They put him up to this.

    One wonders what he came to study as a graduate student…

    "Currently, the university has two graduate schools(the Graduate School of Theology and the Graduate School of Civil and Social Welfare)"

    The only remaining question is how big of chip was on his shoulder when he arrived… or if he is mercenary enough to do whatever it takes to get his degree and an impressive resume… and then move on to one of those cushy NGO jobs.

    When the story sold to me is about an innocent foreign professor accosted on a bus and I find the real story to be a semi-staged event to complete a graduate degree, get some NGO street cred and bring attention to a university, I start to suspect there are few pure motives involved.

    Where can I send money to the drunk ajoshi's legal defense fund? Between the university, the media, the politicians and the stinker, he seems to be the only one telling it exactly like it is.

    Korea does NOT need this kind of professionally-orchestrated in-your-face divisive crap that has become an industry in the United States… which insures perpetual separation and hatred instead of selective respect and natural mutual assimilation.

  • Kooloah
    6:28 am on November 2nd, 2009 2

    Didn't someone just post a bus incident on another thread recently? I don't think it was as bad as racial slurs; something like this should be prosecuted.

  • junior
    8:36 am on November 2nd, 2009 3

    I recently had to ride on a 14 hour flight to Korea next to a couple of curry munchers. Both nice and pleasant people — BUT–

    Soap. Water. We have it. You can use it. Please do. Thank you.

    Of course, it was nothing next to a grandma across the aisle from me who kept coughing, hacking, retching, sneezing, and blowing snot for the entire flight. Lovely…

  • LORDOFE2
    12:42 pm on November 2nd, 2009 4

    Lots of Indians smell "different" then what some consiter good. Smell like curry, dirt, poo or Pakistanian. I have met many Indians that smell like they are from Pakistan. I think we should give the Korean racist another chance. Maybe this was just a cultural misunderstanding because the Indian smelt like dirt or poo.

  • gerry
    1:19 pm on November 2nd, 2009 5

    Very illuminating. Wonder who his professor was at SungKongHoe, and where he/she was trained.

  • Robert
    5:59 pm on November 2nd, 2009 6

    Where can I send money to the drunk ajoshi’s legal defense fund? Between the university, the media, the politicians and the stinker, he seems to be the only one telling it exactly like it is.

    I wouldn't go that far — from most accounts I've read, he's just a racist asshole. Harassing someone on a bus is quite uncool… for any reason. But:

    Korea does NOT need this kind of professionally-orchestrated in-your-face divisive crap that has become an industry in the United States… which insures perpetual separation and hatred instead of selective respect and natural mutual assimilation.

    Amen.

  • Bob Violence
    8:09 pm on November 2nd, 2009 7

    Next time I see those guys I'll give them your message

  • Tom
    12:17 am on November 3rd, 2009 8

    So the headlines on newspapers say a man was called bad names on a bus, so therefore entire Korea is a mean racist country. Great logic there. :lol:

  • MJ4life
    12:22 am on November 3rd, 2009 9

    I live here in Korea, I hear racial slurs all the time.

  • JohnT
    1:52 am on November 3rd, 2009 10

    When in Rome Tom, that's how you koreans think, unless it's not to your advantage then we have to see you all as individuals..

    I've heard for years how America is racist because it has the KKK and other similiar groups and how it's so hard for koreans to live there and elsewhere. I think I'm going to cry!

    AGAIN! You want to see the true racist nature of koreans, look how they allow biracial koreans to be treated. Just ask the Metropolitician!

    Not even Koehler or Kushibo can make an arguement/apology for the koreans on that issue.

    This is something korea deserves. How long koreans did you think you could act like assholes to America and other people and not expect what you dish out to other people to come back on you? You brought it on yourselves and it's what you deserve!

    Again, get a biracial Korean who was born and raised in korea for their opinion on racsim in korea. Next, compare what they went/go through in korea to that of a biracial who was born and raised in another country-say America, Australia or Canada.

    What do you suppose they'd say Tom?

  • Reid
    2:56 am on November 3rd, 2009 11

    This one incident may be anecdotal but most of this NYT article was about other examples of racism in Korean society. And there's a lot more they could have touched on.

    I've lived in Korea for a year and a half and I love it. But I'm not sure I'd feel that way if I weren't a white man. When my school hires foreign English teachers they always explicitly refuse non-whites, I see my students shun their foreign-looking peers, and It seems everyday I'll hear something from someone that would make Glen Beck blush. I could go on.

    I don't want to judge people, especially Koreans who are otherwise extremely friendly people. But for a people who are so concerned about outsiders' perceptions of them, they would be wise to pay attention to this article and others like it.

  • Hyunjung
    7:49 am on November 3rd, 2009 12

    His professor at SungKongHoe was Prof. Cho, Heeyeon. Cho, Heeyeon was did his Masters and Phd from Seoul National University!!!!

  • Hyunjung
    7:56 am on November 3rd, 2009 13

    Now drop this drunken Ajushi nonsense now … it doesn't take the debate anywhere. The prosecutor's office have already mentioned in the indictment that Mr. Park (41 years old not 31 years) was not drunk. You can verify this by calling Incheon Prosecutor's Office or googling in Korean.

  • David tz
    5:57 pm on November 3rd, 2009 14

    So he was a sober, racist ajushi and that makes it ok? Doesn't matter if he was drunk or not, and in fact it's worse, because, as you were so quick to point out, he was sober.

  • Jakoff braindead
    6:41 pm on November 3rd, 2009 15

    I think Koreans smell nasty. I hate when I get on the train in Seoul and I get a whiff of moth balls from all the adjummas, or some adjussi with a chemical hangover is sweating kimchi and soju from the night before and he just ate a whole bowl of mackerel and kimchi for breakfast and didn't brush his teeth. Man, I hate when I have to sit next to that guy on the Seoul Metro.

  • Bob Violence
    7:11 pm on November 3rd, 2009 16

    [quote]So he was a sober, racist ajushi and that makes it ok?[/quote]

    How on earth are you taking that from his post

  • Bob Violence
    7:11 pm on November 3rd, 2009 17

    Dammit, you think I would've figured this out by now

  • Rob Scott
    7:25 pm on November 3rd, 2009 18

    FYI: this statement is flawed:

    "Anyway what I found most interesting about the article is what was left out; like how Mr. Hussain likes to make his own generalizations about white people".

    He made no generalizations about white people. If there are any generalizations it is against South Korean bigots who have a racial preference for white people over Indians. And as you said, it isn't that far-fetched to think that white people are discriminated against less in Korea by Koreans.

    I think it is excellent that this sort of news is out in public, and now Korea is starting to deal with the racism that does exist within its borders. Opportunity knocks … hopefully, as usual, Korea will quickly face this issue, and deal with it, and turn the page.

  • blah
    7:35 pm on November 3rd, 2009 19

    you're another reason why korea will always be a 3rd world nation

  • ChickenHead
    8:59 pm on November 3rd, 2009 20

    I'm guessing that a lot of you still don't get it.

    None of this is about getting yellow and brown and white brothers and sisters to live joyfully together in loving harmony.

    It is about ambition, control, attention, idealistic agendas, political maneuvering, and eventual financial gain.

    The end result is going to be angry pushy brown people demanding special treatment, whiny indignant white people trying to out-tolerance each other and resentful backlash-ready Koreans being legislated into acting as if every part of every culture is special and valuable and equal… all kept perpetually stirred up by an industry of professional agitators…

    …kinda like what destroyed the Melting Pot mentality and is tearing away at the foundations of American culture and society now.

  • Bob Violence
    10:38 pm on November 3rd, 2009 21

    Exactly, racism is only a problem if you draw attention to it

    Thank god somebody gets it

  • junior
    10:47 pm on November 3rd, 2009 22

    Racism? Maybe… but getting stuck next to stinky people is annoying, especially if you can't escape it for HOURS. I had some African bone head sit next to me on the airport shuttle one time- I was the ONLY guy on the damn bus, and this clown sat RIGHT next to me, and he couldn't spell soap.

    Some Africans and some Asians just aren't real big on washing. I get it. It's a cultural thing, and some of them are put off by people who use too much cologne and so on. I get that as well.

    But if you know you are going to be packed in with a bunch of people who can't escape, it's just inconsiderate to not use some basic hygiene- and to call those of us who don't enjoy it racist is pretty close minded.

    But for someone who doesn't like stinky people to take it to the political stage is pretty ridiculous too.

  • Bob Violence
    10:51 pm on November 3rd, 2009 23

    I don't know who you think you're responding to here, since nobody's called you a racist yet…

    "I had some African bone head sit next to me on the airport shuttle one time- I was the ONLY guy on the damn bus, and this clown sat RIGHT next to me, and he couldn’t spell soap."

    Look on the bright side, at least he wasn't elderly and infirm

  • guitard
    11:26 pm on November 3rd, 2009 24

    You need to use

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  • guitard
    11:28 pm on November 3rd, 2009 25

    Sh!t… do a search for how to use "blockquote" in wordpress boards. If I post how it actually appears, it'll show up like the post above.

  • Bob Violence
    12:11 am on November 4th, 2009 26

    The only mentions of WordPress here are in a sidebar and at the extreme bottom of the page where I never had any reason to scroll, thanks for the tip though

  • junior
    8:21 am on November 4th, 2009 27

    Embrace diversity!

    I guess I am a "scentist" myself…

  • junior
    8:26 am on November 4th, 2009 28

    As far as anyone calling me a "racist" at some point, well (yawn!) that word is now with "Nazi" as far as its maximum effect. It's been used by the same predictable crowd too often and too long.

    Old people and sick people generally get somewhat of a pass- they are old and/or sick. Doesn't make it any nicer for the adjacent passenger.

    The other butt monkeys I mentioned are able bodied and should know better. They are just inconsiderate. Not a political statement.

  • gerry
    9:45 am on November 4th, 2009 29

    CHICKENHEAD, are your comments copyright, or can I quote them on the web. Nothing like hitting the nail on the head, you seem to have a knack for it.

    If we could only get some one in Congress or the media to start beating this drum, I think most people would agree.

  • kushibo
    5:39 am on November 16th, 2009 30

    Not even Koehler or Kushibo can make an arguement/apology for the koreans on that issue.

    Wow, JohnT, I didn't realize you had such a stick up your arse about me that you're writing about me in other forums where I'm not even participating.

    In fact, not only would I not make an argument/apology for Koreans on this issue — one that affects me in ways you wouldn't even begin to fathom — I have addressed this issue repeatedly in ways that are highly critical and in no way apologetic.

    Of course, the difference between me and you on this issue is that I actually care about this issue and the plight of the people who are affected, whereas for you it's just one more thing for you to bash Korea with.

  • kushibo
    5:40 am on November 16th, 2009 31

    And although I wouldn't presume to speak for him, Robert Koehler's attitudes on this issue are in no way apologism either.

  • Lemmy
    7:38 am on November 16th, 2009 32

    I distinctly remember the Mr. Park lamenting how offensive Mr. Hussain smelled. Why didn't the NYT mention the offensive smell Mr. Hussain emitted from his person?

  • ChickenHead
    12:59 am on November 30th, 2009 33

    By the way…

    Mr. Park was fined a million won for "making discriminatory remarks against an Indian professor."

    This was in English from the BBC so it's hard to know what the exact charge was.

    "Making discriminatory remarks" is the first step down a lot of slippery slopes that Korea can hopefully avoid. This just might be rephrased with some British multicultural/diversity/politically-correct/wishful-thinking-agenda bias.

    Or it might be the actual charge… in which case It has started.

    As I wrote on another posting on this issue, a stinker has an equally bad effect on the public as a loud racist… except more people are offended.

    If you haven't done it, go back to the top of this post and read about the stinker's true situation and motivation.

    This guy is bringing trouble to Korea.

  • gerry
    11:14 am on November 30th, 2009 34

    PC overwhelms honesty and the truth of the matter I suppose. No one ever asked who the "female friend" he was riding with was. Apparently she must not have been offended by the smell. Did she ever testify in court or give any statements? Just curious, perhaps she had a stuffy nose.

    All in all, it would seem the stinker was offensive and should have been aware of his smell. There is no excuse for him not to be. On the other hand yelling and calling another names is offensive as well.

    Both should have been made to kiss and make up, with no fines involved.

  • Royce
    7:31 pm on April 20th, 2010 35

    Korean mainlanders are some of the most racist people on the planet. They are always shouting about ethnic purity. I think it has a lot to do with penis size and their lack of masculinity. They have so many horrible comments about blacks, but I have yet to see any Korean males/females match the international stardom of Obama/ Denzel Washington/Will Smith/ Samuel L. Jackson/ Hale Berry/ Mrs. Obama/ and so on.

    I think its jealousy. And the stupid subserviant Korean women follow the unsecure men.

  • Retired GI
    10:04 pm on April 20th, 2010 36

    I don't believe you really KNOW any Korean women. :lol:

    As far as your list of black american Stars, at least you DO know that Obama is an actor and not a real President. :grin:

  • ChickenHead
    3:00 am on April 21st, 2010 37

    Royce,

    You are right.

    I, too, have yet to see any Koreans match the international stardom of the handful of accomplished black actors, half-black actresses and black president's wives you mentioned.

    On the other hand, I have yet to see any black nations/populations achieve the successes in infrastructure, education, technology, manufacturing, security, prosperity, etc, etc, etc, that South Korea has.

    Why, it would almost seem as if racism had skewed your priorities to the absurd.

  • Retired GI
    6:08 am on April 21st, 2010 38

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: All so true!

  • Glans
    8:26 am on April 21st, 2010 39

    Poking someone in the thigh with your foot is considered offensive in Korea? Who would have guessed? :roll:

  • Royce
    11:58 am on April 22nd, 2010 40

    I hate Korean people and now that I'm back in the states I spread the hate. Also I do know Korean women.

    Last month me and my friends picketed a Korean merchant selling sneakers in our black neihgborhood. Now he's out of business. It didn't take much. All I had to do was explain to people how I was treated by Koreans abroad.

    I wasn't born this way and I didn't come to Korea as a racist.I was open minded and actually wanted to learn about the culture. I loved Korea from a distance. I wasn't interested in getting laid like so many western white men that the Koreans are sercetly envious over do. Korea made me this way by the horrible treatment of blacks Indians and other ethnic monorities who have dark skin. I'm just taking back to the states what I learned in Korea…That is look after your own and f–k everybody else, that blacks and other darker nations are lower than they are. That's what I learned there.

    You want ethnic unity go ahead have it.

    You don't want to give educated black Americans employment in your country based on the color of their skin go ahead.

    We will stay out your neighborhood and country if you stay out of ours.

    You don't want us in your country. We don't want you either.

  • Royce
    12:05 pm on April 22nd, 2010 41

    "I, too, have yet to see any Koreans match the international stardom of the handful of accomplished black actors, half-black actresses and black president’s wives you mentioned.

    On the other hand, I have yet to see any black nations/populations achieve the successes in infrastructure, education, technology, manufacturing, security, prosperity, etc, etc, etc, that South Korea has.

    Why, it would almost seem as if racism had skewed your priorities to the absurd."

    You are just that a Chickenhead. Never mind that during the Korean war America(BLACKS included) helped to liberate the south from the north which could be a big reason of they are so prosperous….oh yeah there is a huge American base full of American soldiers(Blacks included)

    By black populations are you talking America, the one that blacks helped build? I guess slavery and the cicil rights movement did nothing to shape America into the power house that it is today. We will be the majority by 2040 so you'd better learn to get along with us, that is unless you are Korean, if so f–k off.

  • kushibo
    12:44 pm on April 22nd, 2010 42

    Last month me and my friends picketed a Korean merchant selling sneakers in our black neihgborhood. Now he’s out of business. It didn’t take much. All I had to do was explain to people how I was treated by Koreans abroad.

    Why were you picketing him?

  • a98cer
    1:28 pm on April 22nd, 2010 43

    By 2040, if the rest of your majority is as much of a hateful racist as you are, then I will agree with you and will f-k off and leave the ashes of the USA, which you and your kind will cause, to you.

  • Retired GI
    2:26 pm on April 22nd, 2010 44

    Na, your wrong there AA. The Hispanics will be the majority. Face facts AA, you've been here longer than the Asian, but they have (as a group) a better work ethic than AAs. They don't ask for handouts as much as AAs. They help each other. Hispanics are multiplying at a greater rate than AAs are. When "whitey" falls the AAs will have to deal with the Hispanics in charge. Good luck with your race baiting and belly acking then :lol: You better learn to get along with the Hispanics brother. But don't let me walk all over your Dream. :grin:

    By the way, after the failure of Obama as President, there will not be another AA as President for a hundred years. Enjoy it while it last. :lol:

  • kushibo
    2:55 pm on April 22nd, 2010 45

    Two points: AAs' "work ethic" has been warped largely because of the way they've been shat upon over the past few centuries, including the past few decades. Sorry, but the average White (or Asian) sees just about any Black as having a cloud of dubiousness about them that the Black, if he or she is lucky, must try to overcome. Other races, except perhaps darker Hispanics, simply don't have to do that, for the most part.

    It's convenient to blame Blacks for their predicament, but Black men cannot control the prima facie fear and disdain that non-Blacks often feel toward them. Why do you suppose the income disparity between Black women and White women is so small but the disparity between Black men and White men is so large?

    As for "failed Obama" meaning no Blacks in the White House for another hundred years, think again. The younger generation still likes Obama for the most part, and when the dinosaurs are gone, they're the little furry mammals that will control the future.

  • Royce
    3:21 pm on April 22nd, 2010 46

    "Retired GI"

    Thank god we have mindless idiots like you to fight our wars and flock the sheep. Who sent you there, Bush?

    I get along with Hispanics and I'm married to a Chinese, so I won't be fighting over anything buddy. It will probaly be your old retired behind owing my kids money.

    Hand outs? Wasn't it the banks and Wallstreet(by what you implied, are dominated by white individuals) that wanted handouts? Obama just gave them what they wanted. I didn't benefit from the bail out. In fact I paid for it, and I'm not complaining about it like you are. "AA", how original, are you one of those angry old white men complaining how America has gone to hell? Probaly because you were too busy trying to bang every Korean bong hole you could fit your stick into.

    "Gerry"

    I probaly would have listened to you four years ago but now the hate is too ingrained in my mind. I did my tour(not in the military), saw what went on there and it didn't leave me with a good impression. Now I'm successful, and I'm like to hell with Koreans. Like I said I wasn't a monster when I got over there. The monster was created.

    I'm a racists now and I admit. I won't pass my beliefs on to my children; but for the moment my people have to know.

  • Royce
    3:26 pm on April 22nd, 2010 47

    Amen Kushibo.

  • Royce
    3:41 pm on April 22nd, 2010 48

    Well actually I opened up a clothing store in the neighborhood also. I found that so many people were going to this family's store because they didn't have anywhere else to go. This family also didn't bother to try and understand our culture, they just wanted us to pay and get out. In the evening they left to go live in Westechester, but couldn't afford to have business there. They survived solely off of blacks.

    When I went to their country I couldn't survive because no one would hire me(except if it were some kind of DJ or dancing job. Both of which I don't know how to do) because of the color of my skin. On the subway insults where hurled at me. Women would refuse to sit next to me on the bus, people would change to the other side of the street when I approached. I'm not an ugly man. I'm quite normal looking.

    When I was with white friends Koreans would go out of their way to conversate and get to know them, and give me ugly stares. I wasn't the one trying to get in their pants.

    So I felt like I was being judged based on skin color and not on merits and personality. I have a Lit degree from NYU.

    Basically that's why I picketed. I just want every Korean trying to make money off of blacks to get out. If we are lower than they are why do they continue to thrive in our neighborhoods.

    If I was treated normaly there I would have came back with no problems and would have continued to do business with Koreans, but now that I have seen the true face of these people I don't want to know about them anymore. I'm not interested. I just want them gone out my life, and I'll tell every black person my experience.

  • Rob Scott
    4:03 pm on April 22nd, 2010 49

    Now that is a well balanced Answer Gerry!

    And Royce, I understand your frustrations. BTW, it isn't just blacks that suffer unequal treatment, but anyone who isn't considered Korea, including halfies (half Koreans) and Korean Americans. It is a nationalism thing, and if you do understand the history of Korea you would understand why they are so Nationalistic and needed to be Nationalistic. It has been one of the strength from which they have been able to rise so high up in the world (as well as the serious financial support they received from the US). It has already started to dissipate.

    Now, a serious problem that you have brought up is that you are causing grief to people because of how they look, and because of the language they speak. You are being racist: do you really think that those people who left Korea, who are starting a life for themselves outside Korea, or who are Korean American's are the same people that caused you so much grief in your stay over here? If you do I'd suggest that you read Ralph Ellison's invisible Man, but imagine that the protagonist is a Korea, and see how you are treating each and every Korean on the planet as you would like to treat those people who caused you grief in Korea.

    You should not judge a person by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. And, if I were to judge you based on what you have written, I would deem you just as racist as those you rail against.

    Also, if those Koreans who are in the US are playing fair, and treating people right, you are just further entrenching racism between races because these people will only think: black people don't like Koreans, and this will further edify the Korean nationalistic sense of identity, and not weaken it to the point that they realize that they are equals in a multicultural world.

    Rome wasn't built in a day! Try to put the negative feelings you have behind you, and look yourself in the mirror and ask what kind of person you want to be: a racist or a well balanced person who appreciates diversity, and can rise above the quagmire.

  • Rob Scott
    6:37 pm on April 22nd, 2010 50

    Sorry, but that is a victim mentality. Perhaps it is true, but it doesn't justify anything. If an individual has no work-ethic, then this is their fault (either because they have no drive, or because they take jobs they don't care about).

    I know very little about any "black work ethic", but I have met slackers from all races, and go getters from all races. Tell me Obama doesn't work his butt off, Will Smith, Martin Luther King, etc. If you want to justify being a slacker because of history then you are just a whiner playing the race card.

    People from ever race and culture have been subjugated at some point. My ancestors (The Scots) were subjugated by the English, and before that, the Romans. Furthermore, in my history, I have been discriminated against for being English in French Canada, where it is much more difficult to get a job, or be accepted in society, if you are not French … still, I have a work ethic.

    Anyway, stop playing the race card, and if you think that you are privileged to be racist because of your races history, then you are just sad.

    Slavery and racism may have effected AA culture, but that doesn't mean that individuals cannot rise above this predicament. There are countless examples of black men who have done this, and there are countless examples of black men who have done it illegally, and there are countless examples of black men who have been shiftless do nothing losers. Each person choses their own roll-models and their own expectations for themselves.

  • kushibo
    7:02 pm on April 22nd, 2010 51

    It's so cute when White people think they're as oppressed as Black people.

  • Rob Scott
    7:16 pm on April 22nd, 2010 52

    I think it is cuter when black people act as though they have been the only ones ever oppressed, and that they were never the oppressors, and are blameless for their predicament.

    Quick facts:

    Every black person ever sold in to slavery was sold by another black person to a slave trader.

    Racism exist everywhere. It also comes in all forms: against skin, language, religion, gender, etc.

    You were never a slave, and the fact that one of Royce studied Lit an NYU demonstrates the advantages he does have in America. I studied literature as well, and I know it is a pretty dilettante way to spend 3-5 years, and it doesn't have very many practical applications aside from developing the personality. So, although you may want to scream bloody murder, and whine that you are oppressed, I suggest you take stock of reality and realize that actually, if you can go to NYU and study lit, and not have to worry about getting a job once you graduate, that you have pretty good.

    White people can suffer racism too, and I have experienced it often, and I usually look down upon the people who have subjected me to it because it only demonstrates their small-minded ignorance, and doesn't reflect on me at all. And just like I cannot 100% how it is a to be a black man in America, you could never know how it is to be a white male in this world. We all suffer our little frustrations, and we all make our beds, and we all are only responsible to ourselves.

    BTW, look up Scottish History, because you seem to be very ignorant on the topic.Just as a primer, the former Scottish National Anthem, both its original and its English version:

    [edit]Original lyrics in Scots

    'Scots, wha hae wi' Wallace bled,

    Scots, wham Bruce has aften led,

    Welcome tae yer gory bed,

    Or tæ Victory.

    'Now's the day, and now's the hour:

    See the front o' battle lour,

    See approach proud Edward's power -

    Chains and Slavery.

    'Wha will be a traitor knave?

    Wha will fill a coward's grave?

    Wha sæ base as be a slave?

    Let him turn and flee.

    'Wha, for Scotland's king and law,

    Freedom's sword will strongly draw,

    Freeman stand, or Freeman fa',

    Let him follow me.

    'By Oppression's woes and pains,

    By your sons in servile chains!

    We will drain our dearest veins,

    But they shall be free.

    'Lay the proud usurpers low,

    Tyrants fall in every foe,

    Liberty's in every blow! -

    Let us do or dee.

    [edit]English lyrics

    'Scots, who have with Wallace bled,

    Scots, whom Bruce has often led,

    Welcome to your gory bed

    Or to victory.

    'Now is the day, and now is the hour:

    See the front of battle lower (threaten),

    See approach proud Edward's power -

    Chains and slavery.

    'Who will be a traitor knave?

    Who will fill a coward's grave?

    Who's so base as be a slave? -

    Let him turn, and flee.

    'Who for Scotland's King and Law

    Freedom's sword will strongly draw,

    Freeman stand or freeman fall,

    Let him follow me.

    'By oppression's woes and pains,

    By your sons in servile chains,

    We will drain our dearest veins

    But they shall be free.

    'Lay the proud usurpers low,

    Tyrants fall in every foe,

    Liberty is in every blow,

    Let us do or die!'

  • kushibo
    7:26 pm on April 22nd, 2010 53

    By the way, most Black people can't make themselves look not Black enough that the majority and privileged minorities can't recognize they're not Black, which subjects repeatedly to the overt, clandestine, or subconscious prejudices of the majority and privileged minorities on a constant basis even today, which is quite different from the Scots.

    Look it up. :D

    White people in North America have no clue what it's like to be unable to escape being a minority that is looked down on, and yeah, it's amusing when they suggest same-same. I'm not clueless of history, sir — I would say the Irish, for example, are among the worst treated ethnic groups in American history — but nothing compares to the treatment of Blacks in the past and present except maybe the American Indians.

    It is not an excuse for anything — the prescription is to work harder just to be recognized equally — but you are kidding yourself if you think that Scots = Blacks my friend.

    Not even Scots in Korea.

  • Pete
    7:40 pm on April 22nd, 2010 54

    "I have a Lit degree from NYU." You blame your skin color for not being able to get a job – maybe its your education – or lack of.

  • Rob Scott
    7:54 pm on April 22nd, 2010 55

    Actually, I have been living in Korea for the past 4 years, and so I know how it is to be judged by the color of my skin. Second, I speak English, and in Quebec, it is very difficult to hide the language you speak for very long, especially when you go to an interview, or are submitting an application, or get stopped by a cop (same goes for my Canadian accent to the US, where I have been treated unfairly because I am a liberal canuk). So, again, I know about living in a community that is biased against a certain minority.

    My point about the Scots are not that they are oppressed today, but rather, than every race, culture, and creed has been oppressed throughout history. Every one!

    Now, does that mean that they can go about whining about the past? No.

    Also, in American there is racial profiling, and it is sad, but that doesn't mean that it justifies an AA work ethic of slackerdom (BTW, this is not my opinion, but a reflection of your own); I personally know black people in Washington DC that are uber hard workers, have experienced racism, and who rise above it and don't get bogged down in a tit-for-tat philosophy, and then cry in to their drink that they are oppressed, which justifies them not motivating themselves to be the best they can be — in fact, one of my friends has a triple-whammy, being a black gay male, and to be honest, in terms of work ethic, he brings it — therefor, what you wrote about work ethic and the black male is hogwash.

    Racism can beget racism, when one is weak in mind and will. It seems as though both of you have some strength and intelligence, and so I am simply saying: rise above it brother. Just because there are many examples of racism in Korea (and as you have pointed out, in America too), doesn't mean that you should perpetuate it. If those Koreans in your community are being racist, as the shop owners in "Do the RIght Thing", then get them kicked out of your communities based on those actions, but don't do it because of your negative experiences in Korea. Korea is still finding its way in the world, and many young Koreans are going out in to the world, and bringing a new way of thinking back to their country. If you encourage antagonism with them in a racist way, this will inform future relations. But, if you man up, and speak to people openly, and refuse to slum in to racism, then you may have a positive effect in the very near future.

    I personally know some Koreans who have stated very clearly to other Koreans that black people can be very cool, and are just like everyone else in this world. These people tend to be Koreans who have served in KATUSA, or who have been raised or spent significant time abroad. They are often frowned at by the Koreans they speak with, but over time the new generation will replace the old, and you will see change in your lifetime. Isn't this what we all want? And end to racism, naively idealistic as it is?

  • Rob Scott
    7:59 pm on April 22nd, 2010 56

    Don't be dissing Literature Pete. Anyway, for those of us who studied Literature, we are vary rarely career focused, but more culturally focused. The other thing is that people who get a Lit degree usually have to go out and make their own careers, be highly flexible in the careers they do get, become writers and artists, or work at coffee shops. It depends how much you gained in terms of development of cognition you gained from your degree. If you only got a BA my advice would be to return for the MA, or to change career directions and get retrained, because a BA in Lit ain't worth diddly.

  • gerry
    8:18 pm on April 22nd, 2010 57

    Don’t spread the ‘hate’. It will not benifit you or others who may follow. Anger over your treatment is justified, yet hate only lowers yourself to their level and acomplishes what they hope to accomplish. Reading and knowing where these people come from and their history as well as roots of their ignorance will help heal the hurt.

    This is a country that came from the 16th century to the modern world in less than 100 years. The traditions and thinking have yet to evolve as far as those in the west.

  • Retired GI
    8:23 pm on April 22nd, 2010 58

    What a limited experience you have. No President existed before bush right?

    You think Military People are mindless idiots? Really? You wrote that on this blog? Not real bright are you.

    You're so easy to bait, it seems almost unfare. Almost :lol:

    You're married to a Chinese? So you're like most of the black movie stars! A "Sister" just isn't good enough for you. Not as well off as Tiger, or you would have a blue eyed blond. Had to make do with a Chinese. Predictable :roll:

    Back to you're experience level, does it really only go back to 2006? Handouts and wallstreet? Did you really miss the past fifty years?

    As for your kids and money, I hope you remember to ask them about the money they owe to pay for Obama bailouts. I would have put a smile at the end, but that isn't funny.

    Are you "offended" by the abbreviation "AA"? Sounded like you are.

    "He didn't spell it out :cry: I'm offended :cry: " So sensitive :lol: Then you assume I'm white and like to bang Koreans. It would seem that (unlike you) I've been around just alittle.

    So your a "monster" now? No your not. Your just a sad little racist. Not a "monster". So you won't pass your beliefs on to your children? Way to live the lie. You will pass your racism on to your children. All parents do. Which should really be interesting since they will be half asian. "my people have to know". Way to represent brother!

    I'll give you this: I like your honesty! About time Blacks (feel better?) stopped pretending they are not racist. You are the MAN! You prove me right!

    Race Hate, nothing like it right? :lol: The Democrates love guys like you. So EASY to lead. The perfect puppet.

    You have a nice day now. Don't hurt yourself thinking up some new insults. I'm sure you will just mimmick some liberal talking points and name calling. :grin: Not your fault it's all you know. Somebody else's fault, right?

  • Royce
    10:15 pm on April 22nd, 2010 59

    Sorry, but that is a victim mentality. Perhaps it is true, but it doesn’t justify anything. If an individual has no work-ethic, then this is their fault (either because they have no drive, or because they take jobs they don’t care about).

    Rob Scott dude I am so tired of this make believe word called the "race card". Ain't no such thing. Its just a defense to being called a racist. Scot vs. Black racism? Would I be able to recognize you in a sea of white faces? I think not."

    I always get this "work harder ethic" garbage shoved down my throat. In Korea if I can't even make it past the application process how the hell can I work hard at anything? They always require pictures. It's funny because they are so impressed with my resume at first, and then they ask for the picture, and then you don't hear from them anymore.

    This is not the race card my friend, this is systematic employment disenfrnachisement. My friend Kushibo hit the nail right on the head. I do get turned down because of my color in Korea, Rob, you don't. Let's face facts that my accent is more standard than yours( if you still have your heavy scottish accent) but you would be hired for the English corner, not myself.

    I'm a lit major and my aim was to teach English. That's what I'm good at.They didn't give me that chance. Who to blame? Not me of course. I came there on a mission for culture echange, and all I got was animosity. And that sounds like a victim to me.

    "Retired G.I."

    Stay retired.

  • Rob Scott
    10:51 pm on April 22nd, 2010 60

    Oh, yes, in Korea it is very hard. I thought you were including the US in that generalization about AA work ethic. If you never said this, then I have no problem with your statement. However, I do know their are exceptions to this general rule. I work in a University in Korea and we have a black employee, as well as a hispanic employee. Still, I know it is very difficult to find employment in Korea if you are black, or even non-Korean Asian. It is, unfortunately, the sad reality. However, I also believe this will change given time, and that your tit-for-tat racism in the US against Koreans won't achieve anything meaningful aside from perpetuating hate.

  • Retired GI
    11:55 pm on April 22nd, 2010 61

    "Stay retired." That's all you got? Well, I plan too. I was a success in a field that you not only didn't want to do, but also have no respect for. That is ok with me. The Military isn't for everyone. Nor should it be.

    Like you, I had to learn my racism. People like you were very good Teachers.

    The thing about you is, you use race as an excuse. You protest a Korean business and shut them down. Why? You say because of race. Just so happened that they were your only competition. You closed a business because of greed, not race. They provided a service that was needed. You were pissed because they didn't live in the area. They were taking black peoples money, but they provided a service. You take over after you shut them down? They were the reason you couldn't get a job in Korea? No. But they had the same skin didn't they.

    Your own race isn't even good enough for YOU. What, you couldn't find a Sister that would marry a successful black man? Oh forgot. You have a college degree. Too "white" for the Sisters? That's what some Soldiers said about Condoleezza Rice while I was in Iraq. "She's not one of us."

    You didn't do any research on employment in Korea? Why not? If you had, you would not have been surprized. Mission of cultural exchange? Give me a break.

    That can be done without wanting a paycheck in return. All you got was animosity? Your not alone! :evil: Your not the only one! :evil: I damn sure have gotten my shair. No, it isn't fair either. But it happens.

    "And that sounds like a victim to me." And THERE IT IS! :razz: Your filled with self pity. No damn way your going to give up that victim status. Not too proud to clam that are you.

    Well, everyone needs something. I got my retired military status. You have your victim status. Neither one of us can get a cup of coffee with our status alone. I take that back. You probably can. Scream loud enough about being black and a victim. Add in that a hundred years ago a "relative" was a slave and you just might. Your kids won't be able to do that when the Hispanics take over. You can tell them about it. :grin:

  • JohnT
    1:05 am on April 23rd, 2010 62

    http://japanfocus.org/-Timothy-Lim/3192

    That should sum things up.

    Retired GI:

    Thanks for your service! Most people only seem to appreciate those who serve when they need them.

    I find this especially true of Koreans in regard to America.

  • MEH
    8:32 pm on April 23rd, 2010 63

    lol… Yes. And the US is a 3rd world nation also.

  • ChickenHead
    2:57 am on April 24th, 2010 64

    Royce, Royce, Royce…

    You are a parody of yourself.

    You do understand that, don’t you? Don’t you? No?

    But what do I know? I am “just that (sic) a Chickenhead (sic)”. Right?

    Let’s speak honestly here.

    For someone who brags of “a Lit degree from NYU”, you write like shit… multiple examples of fundamental flaws available upon request.

    For someone who complains of racism, you are unashamedly judgmental based upon the arbitrary measure of skin color.

    These two points destroy any credibility you may try to establish here… be it as a “professional” wondering why you can’t get a job… or a human demanding colorblind equality for yourself while actively discriminating against other races out of jealously.

    Further, you hyperventilate on race while remaining oblivious to nationalism and culture. Foolish.

    Your “people” have black skin. My “people” have the same goals and values that I do… regardless of hair, eye or skin color.

    You appear to be just another angry under-achiever blaming racism for your failures… yet actively practicing the very acts you complain about to feel better about yourself.

    Way to go!

    Also, threatening to “be the majority by 2040″ is laughable. Numbers mean little. Without a cultural shift to value education and accomplishment, rather than the racial solidarity you preach, numerical superiority of a petty underclass just means it will be that much easier for Koreans to get janitorial services in 2040.

  • Royce
    9:58 am on April 24th, 2010 65

    Chickenhead…

    My spelling errors, caused by the slow reaction of the keyboard(virus maybe). Lets face it even the NYT has mistkaes online. I see you as one of those closeted racists who only writes drivel online but in real life shows a different face. I don't do that.

    The carefulness in which you picked apart this poor indian man's ordeal.

    You attempt to say that blacks don't value education? It's only been 40 years since segregation and look what we have accomplished. I paid for my degree by working my ass off. No money from parents. So you can cut that work ethic and "no value towards education" bull crap out.

    Your whole statement is absurd.

    It's the same line from people like you. You are angry with a lot of time on your hands.

    I am a racist. I don't like Koreans, and I will continue to be a racist. I want them out of my neighborhoods, one liquer store at a time. I beleieve my race is superior to theirs(Thats nationalism). Just take the US Army away and we can see how effective they are.

    I admit what I am. You should do the same.

  • Pete
    10:47 am on April 24th, 2010 66

    The poster obviously cannot spell literary or literature but claims to have a degree in this area.

    "I am a racist. I don’t like Koreans, and I will continue to be a racist. I want them out of my neighborhoods, one liquer store at a time. I beleieve my race is superior to theirs"

    This sounds like a posting by a racist Korean trying to pretend he is a black person to bring hate and dishonor to black people.

  • Retired GI
    3:27 pm on April 24th, 2010 67

    Na, your wrong PETE. That sounds like MANY of the (american) black soldiers that I knew in the Army.

    Perhaps you should spend more time with them. :lol:

  • Retired GI
    3:36 pm on April 24th, 2010 68

    Yea Chickenhead~!! You should be more like ROYCE and me. We are both RACIST. :razz:

    We BOTH proclaim our RACISM proudly :twisted: Join us. ;-)

    You tell him ROYCE. My black brother. :grin: United in our hate of anyone different.

  • Lemmy
    4:50 pm on April 24th, 2010 69

    Glad I'm not Royce. I've never seen any race of people treat blacks with any kind of respect. I've never even seen blacks treat other blacks with respect. It really must be troublesome to be black in this world.

  • Lemmy
    5:10 pm on April 24th, 2010 70

    Royce, this is for you, but I doubt you will receive the message I'm sending:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfsVpCOlGQ)

  • Retired GI
    12:24 am on April 25th, 2010 71

    Love the vid Lemmy :smile:

    Sent it to some of my "friends" :lol:

  • ChickenHead
    4:56 am on April 25th, 2010 72

    Royce…

    Let's take a look at your points.

    "My spelling errors, caused by the slow reaction of the keyboard(virus maybe)."

    For a guy under scrutiny for bragging about a quality English education, you write an awful lot of incomplete sentences… although I suppose we could blame a predicate-eating virus.

    Normally, it is rude and petty to pick apart someone's writing… but when they have made it an issue of debate, that guideline no longer applies.

    If your resume was shown to me for my opinion, as they frequently are, you would not be hired. It would have nothing to do with your skin color. It would be because I feel, as many do, that writing ability reflects education… and is a necessary skill in teaching English.

    Your writing has fundamental flaws which are intuitively not made by the majority of high school students. These flaws are unacceptable for a university graduate in any writing, no matter how casual. They are unthinkable for an English major… meaning anyone who didn't avoid such mistakes by second nature would never be allowed to graduate from a real university.

    Short of affirmative action, unmitigated cheating or a homosexual relationship with the Dean of the English Department, I rightfully question your academic record.

    "The carefulness in which you picked apart this poor indian (sic) man’s ordeal."

    For the second time, I'm looking for a verb to complete the sentence… so it is hard to gauge its true intent… but, based on context, I would say its intention is critical.

    It seems reading comprehension is not a required skill at NYU.

    The "indian" (sic) man is not "poor". He is an aspiring agitator looking for a topic on which to agitate in a program that teaches professional agitation.

    His actions are more likely to cause an increase in Korean racism and xenophobia… but these kinds of guys thrive by encouraging conflicts rather than solving them… as, it seems, do you.

    "I paid for my degree by working my ass off. No money from parents."

    Mail order? For a third time, you are unable to write a complete sentence.

    "I want them out of my neighborhoods, one liquer (sic) store at a time. I beleieve (sic) my race is superior to theirs(Thats (sic)(sic)(sic) nationalism)."

    Wow… not only does the virus misspell words, it deletes spaces, holds down the shift key at inopportune times and eats apostrophes. You had better run Norton or people will start thinking your are a Thalidomide kid with a rickety keyboard… but not one with a college education.

    …but I'm curious how an American with black skin can be against an American with yellow skin and call it nationalism. Tell us more.

    "I admit what I am. You should do the same."

    You have admitted… no, bragged… that you are a racist. Now you want me to do the same.

    The funny thing is that I have lived around half of my life in several countries with groups who don't share my race. I even married one of Them.

    What I found is that there are people of every race I feel close to because they share my thinking, values, goals, ideals, etc… and there are people of my own race who should just be put to sleep.

    While race frequently reflects culture, it is not a definitive indicator of who a person is… and it should only be one of many factors considered when evaluating a person.

    And it is foolish and ignorant to use it as an absolute… to speak of "my people" and "their people" based on skin color. Would you choose Willie Horton over Mr. Rodgers to watch your back? Fail.

    If you are an educated clothing store owner, as you claim to be, you have more in common with a Korean shoe shop owner than the average people in your neighborhood. If you strive for the success that allows him to live in Westchester, you should make him an ally and not an enemy.

    But it is this kind of self-destructive behavior, more than The Man, that is really keeping the brothers down.

    Think about it.

  • Royce
    7:20 pm on April 26th, 2010 73

    The website didn't let me comment. So I left my response to CHICKENHEAD in the forum section(Teaching in Korea)

  • Royce
    7:25 pm on April 26th, 2010 74

    Chicken Head…and others

    Let’s agree to disagree. We are both set in our ways, and obviously this website is your territory. You and your cronies are big time racists and sexists, but refuse to admit it. You bathe in white privilege. You know it and you come on this website to exploit it.

    You have no basis for argument, so you attack my education, grammar and punctuation skills.

    I don’t take too much stock in people who pay attention to ‘Comparing Red Light Districts in Korea’, Woman Bites off Boss’ Penis, and ‘Celebrity Love Dolls a Hit in China’. Why should I bother to be grammatically correct with YOU people? I have no respect for you. You write quasi-intellectual dribble on unimportant nonsense; coincidentally, always having something to do with sex.

    Chicken Head(suitable name because it so fits you)

    After all, you were the one who jump started the racist rant about how Bonogit Hussain orchestrated this whole mess. Yeah, it’s his fault because he chose to be friends with a Korean woman. I forgot how these women are supposed to be preserved for those who view white privilege as an accomplishment; an anti-thesis of (an outdated system of which I don’t believe in) affirmative action.

    Why would I want a closeted racist, and sexist to approve of my resume anyway (oh wait, you and the Korean recruiters are one in the same)?

    But I’ll entertain your conjecture for this one post.

  • Royce
    7:28 pm on April 26th, 2010 75

    Wasn’t this written by you?

    “I don’t know if he was a kind and humble boss before this, but I bet after this he was a bit less coccky.”

    I guess that’s how you spell “cocky”

    “This allows for a variety of raape, murder and mutilation scenarios to satisfy even the pickiest customer.”

    “Unfortunately, at this time, we require payment prior to delivery. While we trust our customers, we had a number of incidences where our products were raaped and sent back leaving them feeling used and dirty.”

    I guess that’s how you spell “rape” “raped”.

    But that’s ok. It’s ok for you see, because you can talk about raping and biting off cocks. That’s white privilege. And you can misspell words too, and not be viewed as “unedumucated” because it’s white privilege.

    I’m sure there are a ton of grammatical and punctuation errors in your comments, but let’s not get into that.

    You said that I bragged about how I am a racist and want you to do the same. You already are bragging by your numerous racially charged quips and stereotypes. I just want you to spell it out, and for you to admit it to yourself.

    Yeah, yeah, you lived in several countries with people who don’t share your race. Of course you married the woman of a race who runs after white men like it’s going out of fashion. I bet you can’t speak a hundred words from any of the countries you have visited, most notably, your wife’s language. I’m sure you know how to say “p-ssy” in Korean.

    Don’t give me that Kumbaya bullsh-t. You know what you have and you exploit it; albeit telling every little Asian girl you want to get your hands on, oh so subtly, that black men are dangerous and uneducated back in the states.

    Save that uneducated and grammar sucks argument for the pigs. I’m not one of them. I just don’t care too much about you to entertain the idea.

  • Royce
    7:38 pm on April 26th, 2010 76

    I’m sure there are a ton of grammatical and punctuation errors in the thousands of comments online you have written, but let’s not get into that.

    You said that I bragged about how I am a racist and want you to do the same. You already are bragging by your numerous racially charged quips and stereotypes. I just want you to spell it out, and for you to admit it to yourself.

    Yeah, yeah, you lived in several countries with people who don’t share your race. Of course, you married the woman of a race who runs after white men like it’s going out of fashion. I bet you can’t speak a hundred words from any of the countries you have visited, most notably, your wife’s language. I’m sure you know how to say “p-ssy” in Korean.

    Don’t give me that Kumbaya bullsh-t. You know what you have and you exploit it; albeit telling every little Asian girl you want to get your hands on, oh so subtly, that black men are dangerous and uneducated back in the states.

    Save that uneducated and grammar sucks argument for the pigs. I’m not one of them. I just don’t care too much about you to entertain the idea.

    Your racially charged innuendos are outdated. Come up with new material.

    But I'll entertain your conjecture for this one post.

  • Retired GI
    12:19 am on April 27th, 2010 77

    Nice race baiting royce. I believe I was upfront about my feelings. Not that you knew how to deel with it. You didn't. As for you spelling mistakes, dude, your over the top ignorant. I can not spell, but I know how to CHECK my spelling. How about we agree that well beyound being a racist, your simply a hater. You will not take any blame or responsibility. It is always THEIR fault. Your wife must be so proud of you. Maybe you did the right thing by not marrying a Sister. Most black women that I have seen (outside the military that is) have alot of pride.

    Here is something I don't understand—"you know what you have and exploit it". Well duh! You do the same there black man. You closed down that asian business remember. Don't go getting all santimonious here. You are guilty of worse than that.

    Here it is: "I just don't care too much about you to entertain the idea." That is a recurring theme with you royce. You don't care—you don't care. Why would anyone give you a job. I know I wouldn't. Probably why you married a chinese. No self respecting Sister would stay with a pity party like you.

    Racially charged? That is what you wanted fool. You BEG for it with every post :smile: Talk about your feelings of black privilege. Now I understand why the Africans in America are (for the most part) so worthless. Even when one of you decides to be a success, the rest of you decide they are "too white" and say they "are not one of you", example Condi Rice. It is really sad, but in your case, so obviously deserved. What is somewhat amusing is the Africans in hollywood. The females marry Whites so often, or get beat up by there black husbands. Black men beat successful black women. Why is that?

    Any way, I'm very glad that you showed up here royce. You proved my point about blacks being angry and feeling entitled. You also proved that blacks are at least IF NOT MORE RACIST than whites. That's the big one for me.

    But I'm pissed at you also.

    No matter how many times I tell you that I also am a racist, you never give me any credit! WTF ROYCE!!!!

    You have a nice racist day there, I know that I will. N-word this and N-word that.

    Stupid N-word over there and fat N-word over there. I would spell out the N-word but admin would not post it. :grin: Only in america do people fear a word so much that it can only be used by those that it applies too. Example: Yo N-word what's going on? Chit my N-word, just going to get something form the sisters down the street. Ya know my #1 she be knocked up and chit. Hell naw I ain't gonna marry the bitch. What's wrong with you N-word.

    Come back soon ROYCE. :smile: Come back soon. :twisted:

  • Royce
    10:33 am on April 27th, 2010 78

    "As for "you" spelling mistakes, dude, your over the top ignorant. I can not spell, but I know how to CHECK my spelling."

    "How about we agree that well "beyound" being a racist, "your" simply a hater."

    "Don't go getting all "santimonious" here."

    "Chit my N-word, just going to get something "form" the sisters down the street.

    Oh, you sure know how to use that spell checker all right. Spot on mate, spot on.

    Hahahaha :grin:

  • Retired GI
    2:05 pm on April 27th, 2010 79

    Didn't claim I was always right. :lol: As I said, we have much in common. :grin: Bad spelling being one.

    But I don't have a "lit" degree either. You do. I depend on you to square me away :grin:

    Anything else?

  • Royce
    3:45 pm on April 27th, 2010 80

    I like when a man can admit his flaws. Perhaps we should put aside our differences and become friends.

    I respect our soldiers.

  • Tom
    12:03 pm on October 13th, 2010 81

    kimchi koreans love crackers and honkeys..they deserve each other..lets see what happens when half whitie and half korean racist spring in the future..this world would be a dangerous place to live

  • Tom
    12:07 pm on October 13th, 2010 82

    korean dogs will get what they deserve….they build all these beautiful churches yet still practice racism in..what a bunch of hypocrities..dirty racist white lovers

  • Jamie
    12:10 pm on October 13th, 2010 83

    koreans are racist animals who should be shot on sight..and korean wmen are cheap racist prostitutes..I wish Japanese made all of them their sex slaves

  • Richard
    12:12 pm on October 13th, 2010 84

    Koreans are dog eating animals,,,I hope they all die..so that there wont be any racist on this planet

  • Tom
    1:32 pm on October 13th, 2010 85

    #81 and #82 are not the real Tom. This is not the first time someone has forged my name, and it won't be the last. :lol:

  • Mack
    1:22 am on December 26th, 2010 86

    One fun fact:

    Did you know, brown people from asia avoid each other, hate to see other browns, and they all think the other one stinks??

    Trust me..everyone is a racist to some point..haha..funny buttholes

  • ChickenHead
    3:10 am on December 26th, 2010 87

    This is a classic post.

    The whole Royce conversation is hilarious…

    …and, as a bonus, I never saw his final post where he gigged me on my spelling of "raape" and "coock" and then wondered where his post went… never realizing they were spelled that way to avoid the spam filter.

    Man… that dude was 31 flavors of dumb.

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  • scope
    10:55 am on January 17th, 2011 89

    For whites to be so "superior" they sure are insecure and bitter people.

 

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