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		<title>By: holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 11:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, i just read this story and the comments. im a soldier in the army,u guys would be amaze how many family member dnt want to help soldier or want so much money from them. alot of&quot; female&quot; soldier have to get out of the army once they have a child( if they dnt have a support system) so i believe this soldier. i think it sad that we as ppl judge and tear each other down. the army need to find a way soldier spouse &quot;who are left back can adopted the child for a year&quot; this would help single soldier and that family who might need more income their household. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, i just read this story and the comments. im a soldier in the army,u guys would be amaze how many family member dnt want to help soldier or want so much money from them. alot of&quot; female&quot; soldier have to get out of the army once they have a child( if they dnt have a support system) so i believe this soldier. i think it sad that we as ppl judge and tear each other down. the army need to find a way soldier spouse &quot;who are left back can adopted the child for a year&quot; this would help single soldier and that family who might need more income their household.</p>
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		<title>By: theotherguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>theotherguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have no pity for this woman nor any other woman in the service. They simply do not produce more than they take.&quot; 
 
&quot;What contributions indeed. They get pregnant. They assist in causing divorce. 
They make excuses for not being able to got to the field, NTC, Deployments. 
They slow down PT runs because they are generally the slowest and therefore the &#8220;pacesetter&#8221;. They lie about rape charges. They are not held to the same standard as males but get the same pay. Senior Enlisted give them a pass at promotion boards because they have to have a female. Females generally &#8220;get over&#8221; BIG TIME. 
Unless you have a squared away Company Commander, who is female and KNOWS what they do and is unafraid to let them know that she will not stand for it.&quot; 
 
&quot;&#8220;Barely&#8221; did their jobs? Most don&#8217;t do anything but show up- and on their own schedule at that. 
 
When we have guys volunteering for multiple combat tours after LOSING LIMBS, to hell with losers like this one&#8230;&quot; 
 
&quot;Yeah, because women fu*k up the op tempo more than males do. The reason you hear about females more is because it&#8217;s almost always a female. If there were a mojority of females then the majority would suprise, still be females!&quot; 
 
&quot;What job? Showing up late, being on profile, leaving early, and doing so little that she could be replaced with either a vacant unit slot or a cardboard cut out? 
 
Puh-leazze. 
 
That said, I bet her NCO support channel is full of dead weight too&#8230; Not like we ain&#8217;t seen THAT over, and over, and over&#8230; 
 
&#8230; and ossifers who accept such duds as &#8220;the standard&#8221;.&quot; 
 
&quot;Give her a less then honorable discharge and be done with it. Send the welfare queen back to the hood.&quot; 
 
There explain away that.  Most of those statements are directed at ALL females in the service, some are directed at MOST females in the server, and a select few are directed at THIS female in the service.  Despite knowing nearly nothing in detail about this situation, other then she asked her command to for more, was denied, and choose to stay with her kid (and hire a civilian lawyer to protect her a$$) everyone is ready to paint her as some ghetto girl trying to get a free meal ticket out of the Army.  They projected their resentment of females in the service along with their general dislike for the slackers (who happen to be of a female gender) onto this lady without knowing anything about her.  Next some sock puppet will come onto the board and pretend their some person in her unit and will attempt to justify the previous statements. 
 
If any of the people who made the above statements are or ever were in the service they are a disgrace.  Equality, objectivity, reason, logic all were thrown out the window at the first opportunity.  All to crucify someone who they don&#039;t even know, about a situation they know nothing of.  At least some people had the decency to say they will wait for further details before barbecuing her.  Not like we believe in innocent until proven guilty, fair trial, or any other core value of justice. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I have no pity for this woman nor any other woman in the service. They simply do not produce more than they take.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;What contributions indeed. They get pregnant. They assist in causing divorce.</p>
<p>They make excuses for not being able to got to the field, NTC, Deployments.</p>
<p>They slow down PT runs because they are generally the slowest and therefore the &ldquo;pacesetter&rdquo;. They lie about rape charges. They are not held to the same standard as males but get the same pay. Senior Enlisted give them a pass at promotion boards because they have to have a female. Females generally &ldquo;get over&rdquo; BIG TIME.</p>
<p>Unless you have a squared away Company Commander, who is female and KNOWS what they do and is unafraid to let them know that she will not stand for it.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;&ldquo;Barely&rdquo; did their jobs? Most don&rsquo;t do anything but show up- and on their own schedule at that.</p>
<p>When we have guys volunteering for multiple combat tours after LOSING LIMBS, to hell with losers like this one&hellip;&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;Yeah, because women fu*k up the op tempo more than males do. The reason you hear about females more is because it&rsquo;s almost always a female. If there were a mojority of females then the majority would suprise, still be females!&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;What job? Showing up late, being on profile, leaving early, and doing so little that she could be replaced with either a vacant unit slot or a cardboard cut out?</p>
<p>Puh-leazze.</p>
<p>That said, I bet her NCO support channel is full of dead weight too&hellip; Not like we ain&rsquo;t seen THAT over, and over, and over&hellip;</p>
<p>&hellip; and ossifers who accept such duds as &ldquo;the standard&rdquo;.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;Give her a less then honorable discharge and be done with it. Send the welfare queen back to the hood.&quot;</p>
<p>There explain away that.  Most of those statements are directed at ALL females in the service, some are directed at MOST females in the server, and a select few are directed at THIS female in the service.  Despite knowing nearly nothing in detail about this situation, other then she asked her command to for more, was denied, and choose to stay with her kid (and hire a civilian lawyer to protect her a$$) everyone is ready to paint her as some ghetto girl trying to get a free meal ticket out of the Army.  They projected their resentment of females in the service along with their general dislike for the slackers (who happen to be of a female gender) onto this lady without knowing anything about her.  Next some sock puppet will come onto the board and pretend their some person in her unit and will attempt to justify the previous statements.</p>
<p>If any of the people who made the above statements are or ever were in the service they are a disgrace.  Equality, objectivity, reason, logic all were thrown out the window at the first opportunity.  All to crucify someone who they don&#039;t even know, about a situation they know nothing of.  At least some people had the decency to say they will wait for further details before barbecuing her.  Not like we believe in innocent until proven guilty, fair trial, or any other core value of justice.</p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think all the #@&amp;#&amp;&#039;s are painting all females in that way. Even those who retired 15 years ago. They are talking about a specific group of females who are a percentage in the military. They are real, the issue is real, and they exist. Its not about half the human race. 
 
I find most of the comments valid. It is more about honestly venting what so often cannot be said in a PC military enviroment. 
 
No one said they should &quot;stay in the kitchen where they belong&quot;. You are the one demonizing the people who comment by issuing such statements. The same with categorizing those as being in &quot;combat units&quot;. You&#039;re being unfair to many who have very decent, stable lives, yet see inequalities in the system. 
 
Its not necessarily the &quot;males fault&quot; because the females used their relationship with males to gain special privilidges. It can be a two way street with the males feeling used by the female gender whereas to do otherwise would constitute sexist behavior on the males part. 
 
Females are not above deceit, dishonesty, lieing, or using whatever advantage they may percieve to gain special treatment. Just as any person, when they do so, it is noticed. 
 
Now, having said all that, I have worked with many very intelligent hard working females, who excell at thier jobs. They are (in my experience) more the norm. And by the way, most of my friends felt the same and this was back in the 1980s. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think all the #@&amp;#&amp;&#039;s are painting all females in that way. Even those who retired 15 years ago. They are talking about a specific group of females who are a percentage in the military. They are real, the issue is real, and they exist. Its not about half the human race.</p>
<p>I find most of the comments valid. It is more about honestly venting what so often cannot be said in a PC military enviroment.</p>
<p>No one said they should &quot;stay in the kitchen where they belong&quot;. You are the one demonizing the people who comment by issuing such statements. The same with categorizing those as being in &quot;combat units&quot;. You&#039;re being unfair to many who have very decent, stable lives, yet see inequalities in the system.</p>
<p>Its not necessarily the &quot;males fault&quot; because the females used their relationship with males to gain special privilidges. It can be a two way street with the males feeling used by the female gender whereas to do otherwise would constitute sexist behavior on the males part.</p>
<p>Females are not above deceit, dishonesty, lieing, or using whatever advantage they may percieve to gain special treatment. Just as any person, when they do so, it is noticed.</p>
<p>Now, having said all that, I have worked with many very intelligent hard working females, who excell at thier jobs. They are (in my experience) more the norm. And by the way, most of my friends felt the same and this was back in the 1980s.</p>
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		<title>By: theotherguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>theotherguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contraception is a hot political issue, its the military&#039;s policy to not get involved in political issues when possible.  But yes TMC&#039;s do have condoms available upon request.  At Walker their out on the counter. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contraception is a hot political issue, its the military&#039;s policy to not get involved in political issues when possible.  But yes TMC&#039;s do have condoms available upon request.  At Walker their out on the counter.</p>
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		<title>By: theotherguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>theotherguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not targeting you Gerry, but all the a$$ wipes that keep blaming her and painting all &quot;females&quot; in that way.  Really thinking some of these guys have never been in the military (past basic) or retired 15 years ago. 
 
Really to categorize an entire half the human species in such broad terms, then in turn use that as justification to demonize them.  Might as well make statements that they should &quot;stay in the kitchen where they belong&quot; and other such non-sense. 
 
Well in my time in the military I did see a number of females &quot;getting over&quot; but only because the males let them.  You give any human, female or male, an &quot;easy out&quot; and they&#039;ll take it, few if any questions asked.  I didn&#039;t do that sh!t, none of my soldiers (male or female) got treated any different then the rest. 
 
And I&#039;m willing to bet the guys making the anti-female statements were in the combat or combat support MOS&#039;s, if they even served.  With such a high male to female ratio no wonder the males were treating the females like princess&#039;s and letting them get over on all sorts of sh!t. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not targeting you Gerry, but all the a$$ wipes that keep blaming her and painting all &quot;females&quot; in that way.  Really thinking some of these guys have never been in the military (past basic) or retired 15 years ago.</p>
<p>Really to categorize an entire half the human species in such broad terms, then in turn use that as justification to demonize them.  Might as well make statements that they should &quot;stay in the kitchen where they belong&quot; and other such non-sense.</p>
<p>Well in my time in the military I did see a number of females &quot;getting over&quot; but only because the males let them.  You give any human, female or male, an &quot;easy out&quot; and they&#039;ll take it, few if any questions asked.  I didn&#039;t do that sh!t, none of my soldiers (male or female) got treated any different then the rest.</p>
<p>And I&#039;m willing to bet the guys making the anti-female statements were in the combat or combat support MOS&#039;s, if they even served.  With such a high male to female ratio no wonder the males were treating the females like princess&#039;s and letting them get over on all sorts of sh!t.</p>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone stay tuned because tomorrow morning I&#039;ll have an updated posting completed on this story that should answer a lot of questions of what is going on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone stay tuned because tomorrow morning I&#039;ll have an updated posting completed on this story that should answer a lot of questions of what is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired GI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired GI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if they still do, but the TMC in Korea used to have condoms on request.  STDs effect mission capability.  As does pregnancy. 
Somebody didn&#039;t care. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know if they still do, but the TMC in Korea used to have condoms on request.  STDs effect mission capability.  As does pregnancy.</p>
<p>Somebody didn&#039;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired GI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired GI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the &quot;order&quot; of no sex was put out in both Bosnia and Iraq. 
It was verbal, but it existed.   Not that it mattered much. 
 
After a few months, they had meeting to decided if those who were married and in country, could shair living quarters.  I believe they decided they could. 
        Have a nice 1st CAV day! :razz: </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the &quot;order&quot; of no sex was put out in both Bosnia and Iraq.</p>
<p>It was verbal, but it existed.   Not that it mattered much.</p>
<p>After a few months, they had meeting to decided if those who were married and in country, could shair living quarters.  I believe they decided they could.</p>
<p>        Have a nice 1st CAV day! <img src='http://rokdrop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well her child spent two weeks with the &quot; person listed to take care of the child&#039; (the mothers, mother). And she sent the child back. I don&#039;t know the circumstances of her &#039;mother&#039; and her ability to care for the child, the report dosn&#039;t say. 
 
 The report is lacking in many facts needed to determine if the mother is at fault or the Army. I strongly suspect the mother is at fault (again personal responsibility, and that the military usually bends over backwards in cases like this) rather than a mean SOB of a commander, or 1st Sgt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well her child spent two weeks with the &quot; person listed to take care of the child&#039; (the mothers, mother). And she sent the child back. I don&#039;t know the circumstances of her &#039;mother&#039; and her ability to care for the child, the report dosn&#039;t say.</p>
<p> The report is lacking in many facts needed to determine if the mother is at fault or the Army. I strongly suspect the mother is at fault (again personal responsibility, and that the military usually bends over backwards in cases like this) rather than a mean SOB of a commander, or 1st Sgt.</p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The military does not get into the &quot;birth control issue&quot; only personal responsibility to insure your children are taken care of in the event of deployment. Pregenant females are given options. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The military does not get into the &quot;birth control issue&quot; only personal responsibility to insure your children are taken care of in the event of deployment. Pregenant females are given options.</p>
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